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Jav400 02-26-2004 06:16 AM

I agree with JR on that one. There are way to many music players out there that do exactly what everyone is talking about. Why take up more download space with the screensaver when you can already have a player for free that will play anything that you want? Plus you can use it to listen without the screensaver running while doing something else.

bugsymcd24 02-26-2004 08:35 AM

How About...
 
Hey, how about adding a random dolphin / porpus to chase a shark aroung or bout it a little...natural enemy type thing...LOL
just an idea

would also like to see maybe a random school of rays...

a whale shark definitly

smaller fish swimming close

definitly some improved graphics to a more reealistic state

real time lighting...(an old issue I know)

.....more to come..

BigScreen 02-26-2004 09:05 AM

With all the talk about shark feeding and the Jaws theme, I can't believe no one has suggested adding a swimmer... :)

Marian Nichols 02-26-2004 09:07 AM

No, but we did think about it, LOL. I did suggest a deep-sea diver.

Reichart 02-26-2004 10:19 PM

Lots O'feedback
 
1. Q: Good to see a post from you. Are you feeling better?
A: Still typing one handed some times.

2. Q: Actually, it would be nice to have a bottom up view as well as the top down suggestion above
A: Agreed. May happen.

3. Q: Great White should have white underneath it.
A: Agreed.

4 Q: Hammerhead should have a better swim pattern so we can see the unique style of the fish.
A: Agreed.

5. Q: Little fish swimming underneath some of the sharks.
A: Agreed.

6. Q:Have the sharks turn in a completly different direction in front of the screen,instead of off the screen.
A: Agreed.

7. Q: Since it is the coral reef and not an aquarium.We should see more creatures,like you would if you actually went out there.Like a octopus,starfish on the screen,a seal that the great white chases but never catches.
A: Agreed.

6.Make it look not to cartoony and more realistic looking.
A: Agreed.

7.Plants moving.
A: Agreed.

8.Keep the sharks in the reef and not swim off in the background.
A: Can’t do that with real sharks. Our formulas are about as real as we can make them.

9.Maybe see the small fish swim to safety when the sharks swim by there area,then see them come out when the sharks leave.
A: Agreed.

10. drfish: 2 questions for you, 1) why did you think it important to mention “That site has been pointed out before...” and 2) what is your sig line referring to (in three sentences of less)?

11. Hey, how about adding a random dolphin / porpus to chase a shark aroung or bout it a little...natural enemy type thing...LOL
A: Dolphins and whales will be a sep product from a diff angle one day.

12. a whale shark definitly
A: Agreed.

13. smaller fish swimming close
A: Agreed.



For the record, Agreed means just that, we agree, and thus, it is possible this will be added. When, how, etc. Don’t know yet. MA GA and SA are all being worked on.

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 04:29 AM

a couple more...
 
I also would like to see some sand sharks (I think the name is correct) that swim close to the bottom and blend in an a camoflage type way.

also would like to see the bottom sandy area a little bit wider, seems a bit confined to be a replica of a reef..

other type tanks... just a sandy bottom, with the coral a bit off in the distance...

maybe a sea world type tank ...errr...aquarium type thing... uh..maybe not

a glass bottom boat type view

the ability to pan around in a 360 degree circle would be cool (probably to hard to do I know)

hmmm enough rambling for now....

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 04:36 AM

HMMM
 
this thing has the potential to be a huge project, unlike gold fish or marine aquarium which are home tank type things, this is open ocean with limitless possibilities... will be greatly interested in seeing just how this develops over the months and years to come...

just my 2cents.....

drfish 02-27-2004 05:40 AM

Reichart,
Just wanted any discussion that might have followed regarding the site to be put in the "proper" thread since it already had it's own. And of course I couldn't let anyone get away with taking credit for linking to something I had first... ;)

My sig line, "Cave Piscus!" is latin for "beware the fish." The V is pronounced like a W. So it sounds like "ka-way."

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 06:13 AM

something else
 
a couple other things that could be applied all the aquariums now and in the future:

1. when you go to windowed mode, there should be an option to remove the window frame and just leave the aquarium. I have this option in my tv card software, when I am not in full screen, I can go to a windowed mode that looks somewhat like a tv set, but if I right click on the picture, the frame goes away and just leaves the tv picture running and it is still resizeable by dragging the corners. this would be an awesome option for those like myself who like to leave the aquariums running while we work.

which kinda leads to number 2.

2. would it be possible to run the aquarium as the wall paper... I know there are programs out there that allow screen savers to be run as wall paper..animated background.. but they have never let serene screen run that way for some reason... but that would also be a nifty option to be able to work on top of the running aquarium.

not real sure of the pain this would cause to create this but they would be great options...

drfish 02-27-2004 06:25 AM

A1: See this thread.

A2: Should this be in the FAQ? Is it? Where is the FAQ? It's either not very easy to find, or I'm a moron...
:dunce:

Tiny Turtle 02-27-2004 06:28 AM

Bugsy,
That last request has been debated (heatedly) on several occasions. As Jim is against it, there really isn't much anyone can do. Do a search on the forum and you'll see all the stuff thrown around on the subject.

Tell me this: How much do you see of your desktop in a day? Personally I run most of the programs I use in a maximized window so I usually only see it in the morning and when it's time to pack up and go home. Are you sure you'd really find it useful to have it running there? I did a long time ago, but have since then reached the conclusion that it would be as useless as ugly (with icons cluttered all over).

/Tiny Two Cents

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 06:34 AM

nope
 
this I thought is the wishlist forum and these are the things i wish for.....

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 06:36 AM

turtle, yep I see quite a bit of my desktop during the day, I run a lot of stuff in windowed mode, and on several monitors...was just a thought....

Jav400 02-27-2004 06:39 AM

bugsy,

Give yourself a couple of days and think your ideas through, look over the forum and see what has already been requested, and then make one post with your ideas listed. It will be easier for them to be looked at and answered that way. :)

bugsymcd24 02-27-2004 07:19 AM

Apologies
 
ok. I apologize, however, I do not get to this site very often.. this is a new product and I was just adding my wishes and requests.
I am sorry if I broke some sort of rule.... and this forum is huge.. and I really don't have the time to go thru all the threads....again I am sorry

Jav400 02-27-2004 07:27 AM

Nothing to be sorry about, you didn't break any rules. Like I already said, its just easier to respond to 1 post with all the requests and be able to give answers to your thoughts. When they are scattered out some usually get missed, and like you just said, if its more comprehensive then new members won't have to read 750 posts to keep from posting the same things over and over. :)

Liath 02-27-2004 07:35 AM

Geez guys. Don't you think you're being a little harsh? I mean this is the Shark SS wishlist, not the MA or goldfish wishlist. You all may have been on the beta testing crew. I don't know. Perhaps you have all discussed this stuff to death, but the rest of us are seeing this for the first time. I personally own all of the screensavers, so I read all of the forums. I know who wrote the programs, and the issues that pertain to all of them. Most people purchasing the product are not going to know all this stuff.

Tiny Turtle 02-27-2004 08:29 AM

Bugsy (& Liath),
Ok, sorry if I came off as harsh. I asked questions and got them answered. I stated Jim's opinion, pehaps the people at Prolific are more open to the idea.

I fail to see the point of the "Leave us for a couple of days and then make your post" proposition, made by Admin400, – That is not what I was aiming for.

/Tiny Misunderstanding

Reichart 02-27-2004 10:18 AM

Dr...


1. Q: Just wanted any discussion that might have followed regarding the site to be put in the "proper" thread since it already had it's own. And of course I couldn't let anyone get away with taking credit for linking to something I had first... ;)
A: Hmmmm, I'm not sure that is possible on the web. But, what ever floats the ego.

2. !: My sig line, "Cave Piscus!" is latin for "beware the fish." The V is pronounced like a W. So it sounds like "ka-way."

A: I read quite a bit of latin, and even translated the new testament from Aramaic. My question was not one of language, I was asking about the GIANT SPREADSHEET of CPU numbers and stuff you use as your sig.

Jav400 02-27-2004 10:25 AM

Liath,

I don't think Tiny was being harsh, nor was my intention to be. Everything has to start somewhere, once upon a time the wishlist thread for MA was only a few posts. Now we have scads of them; most of the new users don't even bother to read them all because their are so many, and alot of them are repetitions which further convolutes the process of new members learning what is already planned and what isn't. Just shooting for "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure" and hopeing that we can figure out some way to avoid repeating the same process.

Reichart 02-27-2004 10:29 AM

1. when you go to windowed mode, there should be an option to remove the window frame and just leave the aquarium.
A: Agreed

2. would it be possible to run the aquarium as the wall paper... I know there are programs out there that allow screen savers to be run as wall paper..animated background.. but they have never let serene screen run that way for some reason... but that would also be a nifty option to be able to work on top of the running aquarium.

A: Agreed. To answer your Q, we will support any system that support DX correctly. If you find one that supports anyone’s DX, we will make sure we work with it.

drfish 02-27-2004 11:01 AM

Quote:

I read quite a bit of latin, and even translated the new testament from Aramaic.
Now who's floating his ego? :) Seriously though, I wish I could say the same, but I have no talent for anything to do with any language, latin was a fun class nonetheless (OST-MUS-TISNT! figure that one out guys). Actually, I added that last bit as an afterthought because I thought that might be what you were getting at... If a discussion was started about fishbase, I honestly didn't want it cluttering up this thread. Maybe I should have said, "We already have a thread about that site here.???

But anyway, you meant my sig image, well, here it goes:
I'm pretty into Folding@Home, it's a distributed computing effort like SETI@Home only much more worthwhile. When your computer[s] send in the results of crunching a work unit you get points for it and basic stat tracking is provided by Standford for your user name and any team you might be on. The site that clicking on my sig image takes you to is a 3rd party stat tracking service that takes the basic information from Stanford's website and extrapolates it into a much more detailed breakdown of how you and your team are doing compared to others, the image itself is also a 3rd party service that provides semi-realtime user stats specifically for use in online signatures in order to spur questions like that one you asked. :D

Edit: Oh, and I like totally agree with Marian about the Manta Ray, simply a must have...
*there, back on topic*

Reichart 02-27-2004 11:19 AM

1. Q: it's a distributed computing effort like SETI@Home only much more worthwhile.

A: What is more important than checking the shores of our universe for travelers who might want to say "hello," and more importantly, being prepared--if there are any? To paraphrase, “It is a big universe, would be most odd if it was just for us.”

Marian Nichols 02-27-2004 11:34 AM

Eydasi thanks you. :D

feldon34 02-27-2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reichart
A: What is more important than checking the shores of our universe for travelers who might want to say "hello," and more importantly, being prepared--if there are any? To paraphrase, “It is a big universe, would be most odd if it was just for us.”
Curing cancer, Alzheimer's, and Cystic Fibrosis.

cjmaddy 02-27-2004 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drfish
Edit: Oh, and I like totally agree with Marian about the Manta Ray, simply a must have...
*there, back on topic*

You're not alone in that wish, ... ask DL. - :)
Quote:

Originally posted by cjmaddy - (in a thread with no name!;);) )
How about a Manta Ray passing by in the background? :) - (Or is it too big? :()

Screen shot taken from The Blue Planet ......


http://www.cjmaddy.co.uk/camera/fish/cap001_web_450.jpg

drfish 02-27-2004 01:31 PM

Reichart,
How about "immediately beneficial" instead of worthwhile?

:argue: --> :cheers: ???

IXNAY 02-27-2004 05:14 PM

Hey drfish, I'm using folding@home to, how can I get such a statspic for my client?

drfish 02-27-2004 05:50 PM

IXNAY,
check your PM.

So is the Manta in or out?

klyntun 02-27-2004 11:37 PM

Hey, doc. All this time I thought cave piscus was some blind cave fish! So I suppose carpe diem doesn't really mean goldfish must die?!

bugsymcd24 02-28-2004 08:25 AM

carpe diem
 
carpe diem......sieze the day..... I try to follow that myself....

Jim Sachs 02-28-2004 09:50 AM

Keep 'em coming, Clint. :)

Reichart 02-28-2004 11:36 AM

1. Q: Curing cancer, Alzheimer's, and Cystic Fibrosis.

A: Actually no. This will kill some of us, but not all of us. No, nothing is more important that looking at our HUGE GIGANTIC INCOMPREHENSIBLE universe, and checking for 3 things.

a. Life, especially sentient life. Because “if” we found ANY proof of it, INSTANTLY Earth would unify and became a war motivated battle fort. History is filled with innocent tribes that were slaughtered, we don’t won’t to be tribe Earth, put on galactic reservation.

b. Meteors. Although the odds are slim. There in fact some huge things out there, move fast, in random direction. The moon’s surface is evidence we get hit from time to time.

c. A giant eye staring back through a Petri dish.

So, we “start” with this, and “then” all other energy can go to things like cancer research….speaking of which, sharks don’t get cancer.

feldon34 02-28-2004 02:23 PM

You don't think we, as a society, are ready for aliens do you?

There was an excellent episode of Star Trek TNG, interestingly called "First Contact" about a race that was just too paranoid to deal with alien races (The Federation).

http://stng.36el.com/st-tng/episodes/189.html

Maybe in a couple hundred years we'll be ready.

Wizwad 02-28-2004 03:19 PM

I don't think crocodiles/aligators get cancer either, so when are we getting a screensaver of *them*? Hmm?
;)
Just caught the episode of South Park where Bush convinces Congress to attack Heaven on the basis that it might be a threat, and all caused by Cartman wanting a free pass to get loads of sweets. :D

Marian Nichols 02-28-2004 04:03 PM

:silent:

Jim Sachs 02-28-2004 04:38 PM

So, speaking of sharks...

drfish 02-28-2004 05:06 PM

I tried Jim...

Reichart 02-28-2004 06:13 PM

Jim, don't encourage them, if you mention "sharks" too often, they will remember that this group is a wishlist, and will start adding more...

My goal is to sidetrack...


Wait, who's side are you on here?


Now...anyone ever wonder if insects yawn?

Wizwad 02-28-2004 06:44 PM

That's the Butterfly Garden, Reichart, and we already know it's going to be some time before that arrives! :D

It would be nice to have a shaded background in the Open Water tank - lighter toward the top, darker toward the bottom, possibly with sliders for each in the settings panel to control how light/dark each gets.

It would be nice to have the occasional skate or camouflaged ray move across the sand in the fantasy tank - and stop.

Debris, such as in the Goldfish Aquarium would be really nice, maybe moving in slight currents.

Plumes of disturbed sand following the low swimming Angel Sharks and the ray/skate above when it 'takes off' and 'lands' again.

If the colouring of the ocean tank background and lighting is set to be really dark then it might be nice to have some luminous fish turn up from time to time, but I know we're getting toward fantasy here. Still, as you guys said - it is a wish-list. :)


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