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Hanywella 12-12-2004 06:34 PM

When the New Marine version will released ?
 
When the New Marine version will released ?
2004 are going to end .
and 2005 are comming . and no new version of the marine since 2003 ...

feldon34 12-12-2004 07:42 PM

October, but we aren't sure which year.

Hanywella 12-13-2004 02:42 AM

You are not sure which year ..
Emmm ....
OK. I hope not to be in 2005 coz i will be busy ..

abeery 12-14-2004 10:01 AM

New version of Aquarium
 
Actually I think we will be seeing a new version of the Marine Aquarium this year... a small addition

Yodelking 12-18-2004 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Abeery
Actually I think we will be seeing a new version of the Marine Aquarium this year... a small addition
What did you base this guess on?
As Jim is working on the Freshwater aquarium at the moment, I doubt there will be an update to the marine aquarium for a while...

abeery 12-19-2004 10:33 PM

Not a guess... Pocket PC version... I wrote it... should be out roughly Tuesday on the www.serenescreen.com site

Socrates 12-20-2004 12:47 AM

abeery.

Is there any plan to port that to MS Smartphone? I wouldn't think it wouldn't need a whole rewrite since they are pretty closely related.

That would be GREAT!

drfish 12-20-2004 04:30 AM

Do we know what it will cost yet??? I'm eager to see this one! :D

memilm 12-20-2004 08:58 AM

I don't found anything about pocketpc version on serenescreen.com.
Is this a joke?
Why is no forum threat about this?

feldon34 12-20-2004 12:50 PM

Because it's not Tuesday yet.

I'll start a forum thread as soon as I've got snapshots or news.

James 12-20-2004 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abeery
It is a full screen application (hides window decorations) and displays a clock with optional date. Designed to function as "Cradleware" art. Tapping the Clock opens up the schedule application and exposes the start menu so you can quickly get to other applications. Once you close them the marine aquarium is still there. Should be seeing it shortly
BTW, it's already Tuesday in New Zealand

I suggest when people are talking a certain time and date, please add a GMT+xx (x is number of hours) in the end or specify is it USA time or UK time etc etc, remember this is an internationalise public forum, people visit here from everywhere.

Surferminn 12-20-2004 06:01 PM

Yep. wouldn't hurt to say Tuesday, U.S. time. Hey James, since you're a whole day ahead, any chance you might pick up early on the news the Wednesday winning Lottery numbers and send them back to me so I can pick them up next day? ;)

ESHIREY 12-20-2004 06:23 PM

hehehehehe That would be cool.:TU:

James 12-20-2004 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surferminn
Yep. wouldn't hurt to say Tuesday, U.S. time. Hey James, since you're a whole day ahead, any chance you might pick up early on the news the Wednesday winning Lottery numbers and send them back to me so I can pick them up next day? ;)
I wish I could do that, the NZ's Lotto Power Ball has been jackpot to 7.6 Millions NZD!!

And I also wish I could get that MAPPC sooner so I can pass it to you guys!!! :D LOL

abeery 12-20-2004 09:46 PM

I'm happy that someone would like to see this on the SmartPhone platform... not completely sure why. A Pocket PC sits in a craddle much of the day so craddleware artwork Like Jim Sach's MA makes sense to me. A phone on the other hand needs to conserve its power use so as to be available to receive and place calls. I'm open to reasonable discussion.

BTW - I'm working on a Goldfish version with Prolific's support that will have a better shot to run on more platforms as iit will be based on the CF.NET framework.

My appologies to our international community. I've spent quite a bit of times overseas (graduated from highschool in Brazil) but always managed to avoid major time zone issues.

Tiny Turtle 12-21-2004 01:46 AM

Abeery,
No worries on the time issue. Memilm posted at 4 pm on Monday our time so it was just a case of not reading the post carefully enough.

Sounds like a nice app, btw. As for why a Smartphone version would sell? Something to impress others with can always be considered worth getting by some.

/Tiny LCD

memilm 12-21-2004 05:08 AM

Tuesday exist every weeek of the year ):

Surferminn 12-21-2004 09:32 AM

Aberry, no big deal, one of the ways the business world handles int'l time issues is to simply quote both the city and date/time. E.g., ... by 5:00 pm London time. or by 10:00 am Houston time, or by close of business Dec 22, 2004, New York time, etc..
Can't wait to see a pic.

drfish 12-21-2004 12:19 PM

So, when can we expect it?

Jim Sachs 12-21-2004 12:48 PM

He said ROUGHLY Tuesday. Worth the wait, though. It actually looks quite good considering the severe limitations of the platform.

drfish 12-23-2004 07:41 AM

Is Thursday roughly Tuesday enough? ;)

Surferminn 12-23-2004 08:25 AM

have to remember doc, holiday mail season, things get lost in the mail during the holiday rush and all, you know! ;)

abeery 12-23-2004 09:59 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Don't know when MAPPC will make it to SereneScreen site but here's a teaser... hopefully prolific will not be too sore with me

drfish 12-23-2004 10:24 AM

oooOHh... Pretty! :heart: Does it scroll?

Edit: What kind of hardware do you need? Will the 400Mhz PXA255 in my Asus A620 make the cut? I'm assuming it will... What kind of framerates can I expect?

Surferminn 12-23-2004 10:58 AM

same question, can you scroll across the aquarium?
can you also rotate the picture 90 degrees and display in a landscape mode as opposed to portrait mode (vertically as you have it pictured). also, is it possible select the size aquarium (i.e. shrink the aquarium so you can see the whole thing but with tiny fishes or have it bigger but see bigger fishes, etc..)

Here's a idea, how about if somebody here created a portable aquarium like the size of an 8x10 picture frame or bigger and you can carry it around and put it up on your desk at work or on your desk at home just like you do pictures of your family -- independent of the computer. a mobile picture frame virtual aquarium. what do you think?

Socrates 12-23-2004 01:12 PM

I guess you could also ask why my smartphone also has windows media player 10 in it, or why it plays Tetris, has 512MB of ram, plays movies, mp3's... Because it CAN.

LOL

All that in addition to the actual practical business stuff it does like displaying live traffic, syncing with a blue tooth gps box, doing map routing, and having my complete Outlook contacts and calendars.

The reason I have an MS SMartphone is that I got tired of having to carry around a bulky Palm and a phone.

As far as a Palm or PPC sitting in a cradle all day??? That seems kind of odd. Isn't a device meant to make you portable?

abeery 12-23-2004 09:17 PM

Socrates

I stand (sit actually) humbled and corrected. I will endeavor to test on a SmartPhone... not sure what resolutions are available as I have never looked into this before. I will at very least see what emulator options I have available. what is a typical configuration from a RAM point of view, SD or CF cards available?

Socrates 12-24-2004 03:00 AM

Well the the two current big boys are the Audiovox SMT5600 (which has about 20 other model names and is really made by HTC) and the Motorola MPX220. There are also some older Samsung i600 and Moto MPX200 and various others on the market, but the 5600 and 220 are the latest and greatest.

I don't know about the 220 but the 5600 has a 200MHz processor, 32 MB of Ram, and 64 of built in storage... both the 220 and 5600 have MiniSD slots and both currently run anything up to 512... it's unknown whether they can handle the new 1GB miniSD cards which aren't widely available yet.

You can look at http://www.Microsoft.com/smartphone for specs on the major phones. There are also the Palm phones, etc, but I would suspect that porting to the MS Smartphone would be easier since it's supposed to be a derivative of the Pocket PC.

kona001 12-24-2004 07:20 AM

This sounds like a great thing. Let me know which palm product would display the new Marine Aquarium with the best possible resolution and speed. :)

Wizwad 12-24-2004 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drfish
Is Thursday roughly Tuesday enough? ;)
Also, did he specify which Tuesday, or is this going to be like MA-3D being ready in October?

:D:D

abeery 12-27-2004 03:45 PM

My apologies guys (and gals)… I should have never mentioned MAPPC would be coming out last Tuesday. That is the word I had received but it looks like this has slipped. Prolific has their hands full and I'm not surprised something had to give. As for the new date... I’m not as tightly in the loop as you might imagine -- but the software itself is done -- has been for a while... just a matter of getting distribution website setup etc. Hopefully it will be worth the wait. Have a Happy New Year

Andy

lannp 01-08-2005 09:35 AM

I am new to this forum. I own a 200 gal. reef aquarium in the middle of my living room, and right now its lights are off until I can fix the cooler unit. I miss it! So when I found the MA2 wide screen, I am so happy! The things I miss the most are the live rocks! I wish the 3D background would be animated! Instead of making more and more fish, I would vote for Jim to make anemones, feather dusters etc... I am displaying the wide screen MA2 on my Dell Inspiron 9100, and I wish the purple mushrooms and the other live rocks would react to the currents. By the way, this is better than "Finding Nemo." I like Jim's blue tang better than Dory in the movie. In this version of MA2, one thing that is not quite right is the bubbles: the fish cannot get behind them, ever, so the 3D effects are incorrect whenever the fishes go near them. Can we have the crystal in the wide screen version? Jim said not! I also miss my coral shrimp and my reef crab. DO NOT put more than one coral shrimp in your tank. They will fight each other to the death!

Lan from Miami

Marian Nichols 01-08-2005 12:58 PM

Welcome to the forum, Lan. Jim will answer your questions soon.

Visit us informally in the coffee house where we have lively discussions on a variety of subjects. You can learned a great deal there as well as being entertained with jokes and photos.
:artist:

Jim Sachs 01-08-2005 02:43 PM

Hi, Lan -

Yes, all of those things have been planned for a long time, but life sometimes gets in the way of the grandest plans.

Lately I have been discussing with Prolific the idea of putting the Freshwater Tank on hold, and returning to the Marine Aquarium for a major update. Encore has been pushing for this for some time now, hoping to have a product to fill the store shelves when CD sales start to flag. Since I make such a tiny percentage from hardcopy sales, Encore's wishes have never held much sway with me, but Prolific has a good relationship with them, and I want Prolific to do well.

So, I will make a decision on this in the next few days. There are still major technical hurdles to be overcome, like the 3D format issue. I also must finish my home design and turn it over to my General Contractor before I can start writing software again.

And then there's the rain. Our area is being deluged by an enormous storm, and there will be no relief for several days. At 6000 feet, we are right at the snow level. There is about 2 feet of snow on the ground, and the rain has now super-saturated it. Water is pouring into the closet of my bedroom, and I've had to stop writing this message twice to go bail it.

Could be worse - a short distance from here 200 people have been trapped in their cars overnight awaiting rescue.

Marian Nichols 01-08-2005 04:09 PM

Oh no! I had heard of the downpours in California but my goodness that has got to be the pits.

Maybe you should consider a houseboat. (kidding)

I bet that puts a damper on the excitement of building a new home. How are you managing to cope?

Jim Sachs 01-08-2005 05:17 PM

Well, the new home will be in Oregon, and will be well-prepared for rain. Here in California, raindrops are so many months apart that we forget how to deal with them.

Bob 01-08-2005 05:26 PM

Jim,

I'm really sorry to hear about the rain problems you're having. I've got family in California and I know they are having problems, too. They don't know how to build for rainy weather in California, but your are right about being better prepared in Oregon.

I would vote for putting the fresh water aquarium on the shelf for a while and working on the MA update, IF that means the 3D background. Otherwise I don't know what you would do that would qualify as a "major" update.

More fish, schooling, new creatures would be nice but not earth shattering.

I encourage you to do which ever projects gets us to the 3D background the quickest.

Thanks for a beautiful product.

patscarr 01-08-2005 06:01 PM

If you do decide to go back to the Marine Aquarium, which would be awesome, might I suggest wipping out a quick 10 creature pack first, to take in some revenue quickly, then dive into the 3D background etc. because it may take quite awhile?

lannp 01-08-2005 06:27 PM

Hi Marian and Jim:

Thank you both for the welcome. Jim, I am sorry for the deluge in your area, and that you only get a meager financial return with your beautiful "art" work. I am a programmer and did do some work in 3D medical modeling (OpenGL mostly) so I know how hard this is. But I am so impressed with the details you put into your rendering. I have no idea how you manage to incorporate "personality" in your fish. I have my 200 gal aquarium for many years, and I spent an enormous time watching my tank at nights. Your fish behave just right. I love your lion fish, and the clown trigger, and the Picasso, in fact all of them. If you decide to go back to the salt water reef tank, I think you would do all of us a big favor. There are just so much you can get from a fresh water tank, but a reef tank has infinite potential. Please make your feather duster retracts when the fish pick on it... etc... I am recommending to a friend of mine opening up a restaurant at the foot of the Eiffel tower in Paris to place a 50" LCD screen to display your work. Hope he'll listen. The only worry I have is the burning in of the display. But it is still cheaper than keeping up a real reef tank. All dental offices should look into this for their office too.

Lan

Tiny Turtle 01-10-2005 04:05 AM

Pat,
Won't work – The creatures require a 3D background to interact with. The banded coral shrimp can't climb on 2D and there's no cave for a moray to hide in...


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