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rschuh 09-27-2006 01:18 AM

Juvenile Queen angel may actually be a Blue
 
Hi all,
My name of Rob Schuh and I have been invloved with Marine fish and reef aquariums for over 35 years. I love this product. I do have one question regarding the ID on one fish. It is the Queen angel. Both the Queen and Blue Angel fish from the Caribbean look almost identical in their Juvenile form. The fish in the program is a juvenile, but I am 99% sure that it is actually a juvenile Blue angel and not a Queen. I know that I might be acting a bit overly anal, but I think it is best to have the identification correct. I was curious if anyone else here had any ideas on this topic? That being said, I am very impressed by how perfect the fish colors and swimming motions are. I currently do not have a tank set up, so I just love watching my screen saver. My wife jokes with me about how many times I tell her how real I think it is! :-)

Take care

Rob

Jav400 09-27-2006 03:24 AM

Glad you are enjoying it so much and welcome to our forum.

Do a google search for juvenile queen angel and then look at the results on the images page. :)

Tiny Turtle 09-27-2006 06:18 AM

Jav,
What's that supposed to tell? Evidently Mr. Schuh has seen both species in their juvinile form before, so uing a bunch of divers/aquarists opinions on what the've seen and posted on the net isn't exactly the final truth.

I did a Google Image Search on "juvenile queen angel" and on "juvenile blue angel" and similar fish pop up on both. Here's an alleged (juvenile) Blue Angel and I must say the jury is still out on Mr. Schuh's question.

/Tiny Second Chance

Jav400 09-27-2006 07:25 AM

The two species are closely related, and fish are not carbon copy cutouts, so there can be some slight difference between the same species and there is definately a difference between age changes. But the bottom line is Jim created it from what he saw and he says it is, him I trust. So unless where ever he saw it, it was labeled wrong I would give 99.9% odds on it being right.
Which for me isn't a plus really, for reasons I won't get into now I never did like that fish and its the only one I wouldn't care if it was thrown out, or changed. Sorry Cliff, I know you like this one.

Surferminn 09-27-2006 07:26 AM

Hi Rob, welcome to the forum and thanks for your input. Thanks too Tiny for doing the homework first and posting up such neat links! At this point, kinda late to do a recall on all the published SS out there but good to know it might possibly be a blue angel - too bad we won't really know until it's grown. ;)

Jim Sachs 09-27-2006 10:12 AM

There has always been a lot of confusion even among the experts between the Queen and Blue. At the juvenile stage I chose to use (just losing its stripes and no crown showing yet), it could be either one. Several people in the past have thought it was a Blue, but no one has ever said, "It's a Blue because ______".

cjmaddy 09-27-2006 10:30 AM

No no no, Michael, you can throw that one out any time you like! - It's the original one I prefer ...

https://www.feldoncentral.com/~cjmaddy/PMs/queen.jpg

Jav400 09-27-2006 10:42 AM

Oh ok, my fault Cliff, I thought it was this one.

Jim Sachs 09-27-2006 10:53 AM

Anyway, all the fish will be replaced in 3.0.

Tiny Turtle 09-27-2006 10:57 AM

Rob,
I'd be very interested in hearing what leads you to believe it's a Blue.

Cliff,
That original looks like it was created by Jim Disney - not Jim Sachs.

feldon34 09-27-2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjmaddy
No no no, Michael, you can throw that one out any time you like! - It's the original one I prefer ...

Sorry but I think you're the only one. ;)

You don't, by any chance, possess brown corduroy slacks? :)

feldon34 09-27-2006 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Sachs
Anyway, all the fish will be replaced in 3.0.

So are you going to emulate the soft glow as top light partially passes through the flesh? Many marine fish are yellow on top and the light passing through is quite remarkable.

Jim Sachs 09-27-2006 11:00 AM

I'll try.

cjmaddy 09-27-2006 11:17 AM

Looks like it's open house time for sarcasm, - you ain't seen nothing yet mate! ;)

To answer your question, no! - I can't pretend to compete with you Texans. :|

ESHIREY 09-27-2006 11:26 AM

Oh Oh.

Surferminn 09-27-2006 11:29 AM

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Not sure what the joke is, but I grew up with a pair of brown cordoroy pants. Very warm, cozy and comfortable. :) In keeping with the thread, here's a pic of an angel I took over a month ago.

ESHIREY 09-27-2006 11:44 AM

Great shot. Keep them coming.

feldon34 09-27-2006 11:45 AM

My sense of humor has been questioned lately.

Wizwad 09-27-2006 01:27 PM

But on the plus side, at least you've got a great new avatar pic! :D

More seriously, I think it's wonderful, Morgan. :TU:

patscarr 09-27-2006 05:29 PM

I had a pair of brown cordoroy pants too, twice handed down.


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