Gerty,

Thanks, there is alot more in the planning stages that Morgan and I have been going over.

Oops. That wasn't supposed to affect the whole forum!

If you are wondering, check out the Mac forum. If enough people ask, I can make the blue a selectable theme.

Fixed!

In your "Settings" under "Options" near the bottom, You can now choose either the "Default" green style or the new "Blue" theme which is the new default Mac forum style.

2 new improvements.

-Now you can Subscribe AND Unsubscribe from within a thread.

-Now you can Search WITHIN a long thread! So you can search for every mention of "Mandarin" within the 50 page Saltwater Wishlist topic. :)

More to come...

If you have been waiting for a good reason to download and install a new version of Netscape or Internet Explorer, now is the time. vBulletin 3 will not, by default, support 4.xx versions of either browser. I may put a compatibility style in if there is enough demand.

vBulletin 3
 

So this forum will not be viewable with Netscape 4.8 at all? :( Or only some new features? :)
Netscape 7xx has an excelent browser but the email newsgroup side kind of suck . IE is .....well M$. I rather enjoy browsing without my browser being hijacked at every opportunity. But, lets not start a browser war, to each their own. :TU:
Ralph

Netscape 4.xx fails to display about 20% of HTML 4.0 and 100% of CSS, CSS2, and XHTML.

I wonder how many people try to use the e-mail client NS shoehorned into their browser. I proudly use Eudora.

feldon, that is onlypartly right - I myself design for web for years and my experience shows, that only a few things in Netscape 4.xx don't work at all - most of them will work if the code is correctly adapted.

In every case: For things like splitted pictures or damaged tables (see attachment) Netscape 4.xx is NOT to blame.

Only a few! ..... is too many! :) ........ Update! ....... They're free!!!! :)

Netscape 4.xx nearly drove me to distraction !!!!!

It's me once again...

I tried to adapt the code of the banner-table. Now it works
with both - IE and Netscape 4.xx. Here you are:

Code:

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<center>
<table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
 <tr>
  <td align="center" nowrap>
  <table width="620" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr>
    <td colspan="4"><a href=""><img src="banner_01topA.jpg" width=620 height=63 border=0 alt=""></a></TD>
    </TR>
    <TR>
    <TD><img src="banner_01topB.jpg" width=343 height=52 border=0 usemap="#bannertop"></TD>
    <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_01topC_lit.gif" width=60 height=52 border=0></a></TD>
    <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_01topD_lit.gif" width=66 height=52 border=0></a></TD>
    <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_01topE.gif" width=151 height=52 border=0></a></TD>
    </TR>
    <TR>
    <TD colspan="4">
      <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
      <TR>
        <TD><img src="banner_02left.jpg" width=165 height=25 border=0 alt="" align=top></TD>
        <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_03settings.gif" alt="" border=0 width=92 height=25 name="usercp"></a></TD>
        <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_04members.gif" alt="" border=0 width=74 height=25 name="members"></a></TD>
        <TD><a href="" target="_blank"><img src="banner_05faq.gif" alt="" border=0 width=68 height=25 name="faq"></a></TD>
        <TD><img src="banner_06updates.gif" alt="Updates" border=0 width=70 height=25 name="updates"></TD>
        <TD><a href="" target="_blank"><img src="banner_07chat.gif" alt="" border=0 width=50 height=25 name="chat"></a></TD>
        <TD><a href=""><img src="banner_08search.gif" alt="" border=0 width=62 height=25 name="search"></a></TD>
        <TD><img src="banner_09right.jpg" width=38 height=25></TD>
      </TR>
      </TABLE>
      <map name="bannertop">
      <area shape="rect" coords="171,0,219,51" href="showthread.php?s=&threadid=416" title="Cat and Pet Photos">
      <area shape="rect" coords="220,0,282,51" href="showthread.php?s=&postid=21556#post21556" title="Widescreen 16:9 Aquarium Info">
      <area shape="rect" coords="283,0,342,51" href="showthread.php?s=&threadid=8" title="Saltwater Aquarium Wishlist">
      <area shape="default" nohref>
      </map>
    </td>
    </tr>
  </table>
  </td>
 </tr>
</table>
</center>

---

the result is this:

Netscape 4.xx wasn't that bad. But if you are still happily using that version, you will be absolutely thrilled by Netscape 7. And as Cliff says, it's free. Although a broadband connection would make the download more comfortable.

diverslung, I am pleasantly surprised that there are still webdesigners like you who are willing to support Netscape 4.xx. Good job!

So this board does take html samples without using spaces, let's see... <br>

It has been so long since I used Netscape I hardly even remember what it was like, other than installing plugins for whatever I wanted. I had alot of those.

[Stats for April]
Netscape 4.7 is used by 0.82% of our visitors.
Netscape 4.0 is used by 0.16% of our visitors.
Netscape 3.0 is used by 0.90% of our visitors. (and other browsers identifying themselves as Mozilla/3.01)
Internet Explorer 4.0 is used by 0.14% of our visitors.
Internet Explorer 5.0~6.0 is used by 91.86% of our visitors.


Remember that vBulletin 3 will not support Netscape 4 or IE 4.

diverslung,

Thanks for the solutions.

Sad, but interesting stats. I notice nothing for NS 6 or 7, that catagory too small to count? Shows what happens when a browser is thrust upon you, good or bad it is what you use.. and get used to it, foilbles and all. I suppose if the government gave us all a Lada with our drivers licence 92% of the cars on the road would be Ladas

I wish IE had been $20 like all the other browsers.

It would still have won because it displays pages better and more complete/closer to HTML specs than any other browser.

I do have complaints about IE, but it's the browser I have had the least trouble with. Unfortunately, there is no way to get IE running smoothly on Windows 98/ME.

After using XP for about 40 hours now, I am almost violently promoting the Windows 2000/IE6 platform. :)

I spent years with searching for Netscape 4.xx-compatible solutions. Not just that I prefer the policy of it long before IE (things like surfing-tracks and temp-files are much more controlable) but remember, that almost every network running OS like linux or unix refer to Netscape or mozilla...
IE-codeing is that easy - there are no longer designers necessary. To me the real art is to combine functionality, design and browser-compatibility. IMHO the last one is increasingly missed too often.

remember: there's no bad weather (or browser) - there's only wrong outfit (or codeing) ...;)

I know of a few tags I'd like to use that FREEZE Netscape 4.

I like it, whats the button going to be linking too???

Sorry, I posted in the wrong thread =( It was supposed to go below the animated fish...

Yep! I never said Netscape is the ultmative browser... There were millions of moments in my short life when it drove me bananas...

new theme -
I would make the following suggestion:
would it be possible to repeat the breadcrumb-navigation below the topbanner at the end of the page?
I myself prefer navigating with it but I hate the scrolling-session.
What about it?