Mac OS X Mojave
The aquarium does not appear when run as screensaver on the latest mojave operating system that was just released on Sept. 24, 2018.
When I run the screensaver I get just a black screen. Other built-in screensavers work as expected. I'm hoping someone is going to update the current version to work on mojave? (And I hope the update to make it work is simple.) Regards, Justin |
Thanks, I'll pass it along to Jim O'Conner.
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Mac Mohave Version Needed NOW
Please Update aquarium for Mac " Mohave " ASAP !!!!!
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Same issue here since updating to Mojave. Miss my fish!
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It appears that Apple has discontinued OpenGL in Mohave. Since the Mac version of the Aquarium is written in OpenGL, I'm not sure how we would handle this.
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Mojave still has OpenGL, it's just deprecated / no longer being updated. Considering how much Mac software uses OpenGL (specifically Windows CAD software that's been ported over) and will not be rewritten for Apple's new whizbang graphics engine (Metal), I think it would be suicidal for them to kill off OpenGL entirely.
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OpenGL still around files just hidden or super user required
Good morning,
Missing my fish. What I found is that Apple makes root hard to activate and particular system files/folders untouchable even with root (i.e. "system integrity protection" SIP). I had to find out how to disable the integrity protection to get older versions of Java and other X11 components installed, or aliases set up to where apple moved the files. Once done I was able to turn system integrity back on and disable root. Sounds like OpenGL has gone that way and it'll take someone a bit to figure out where the files have been moved, and/or which libraries need to be put back in place? I had to do this for scientific software I need for work. Admittedly I'm assuming a WHOLE lot, and hoping that the problems are similar. If you need information on activating root, and disabling SIP let me know. |
Thanks Ryan - I'll pass that info to Jim O'Conner.
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Ryan - Jim O'Conner says your info could be quite helpful, so thanks again.
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I want my money back
Upgraded to Mojave. Marine Aquarium only displays a black screen but can hear sound. Went and purchased the latest version. Still a black screen. I want my money back.
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Upgrade for Mojave?
Hello everyone, I am one of these faithful users who have used Marine Aquarium from the very beginnings. My kids love it too.
I just upgraded to Mojave. Same issue, blank screen. I don't understand the technical side, but is there a chance that Marine Aquarium will be updated for Mojave? Greetings. |
Yes upgraded to Mojave!!!
Same here guys!! Please advise if there is a workaround?! :(
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Our Apple guy, Jim O'Connor, is trying to find a workaround. Apple wants all 3rd party developers to re-write their OpenGL apps in Metal. With only 1 or 2 Mac sales per week, it's not feasible for him to re-write the program. There's a rumor that the Aquarium can still be started as an executable file, but not a screensaver. Not knowing anyone with a Mac, I don't know if this is true.
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Glad I read this as I was about to upgrade, I'll now hold off as long as I can.
Can't believe Apple would suddenly kill a huge amount of apps, so there must be a workaround without a rewrite. I'd happily pay for an update... |
The rumor is true, just tried it. It works as an executable file but not a screen saver. Works for me, I'm a pediatrician, use the fish tank to calm my patients, will leave on in the background and just switch to it when I need to show it to patients!
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I would also pay for an upgrade, for sure. Please keep the fish alive!
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It runs as expected in windowed mode and can be changed to full screen via the top menu by clicking View -> Enter Full Screen. |
Thanks for the info.
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So, there is no plan to update SereneScreen Aquarium on Mojave? Really?
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Please put out an update for Mojave.
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Our Apple guy, Jim O'Connor, is trying to find a workaround.
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Possible fix:
http://people.bath.ac.uk/abscjkw/Com...javeOpenGL.cpp Another possible fix: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...reen-on-mojave |
Thanks, Morgan -- I'll run those by Jim O'Conner.
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Thanks, Scott.
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How's the troubleshooting going? any updates?
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Seems like an opportunity. "Rewrite as Metal" - there's nothing I've ever seen like Serene Screen. I REALLY hate having to have a "normal" screen saver now. I have a 3-screen rig and the "application" method doesn't work because the other 2 screens are still showing desktops.
At the very least, if the app was modified so that it was either non-singleton (multiple windows/instances) or blacked out other screens, that would be a step forward. I implore you to find a way to move forward for us Mac folk. Metal might be better than ever and provide a new marketing opportunity to get beyond "1-2 Mac sales per week." Please. Something. |
Any News
Hello, just wondering if Serene Screen will be updated. Still holding back with the upgrade to Mojave.....
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I had my Mac connected to the TV this weekend and the aquarium popped up after a while. It was the first time my wife had seen it in close to 13 years and she instantly remembered how our then 2 year old daughter had been captivated by it and knew all the fish names... How time flies, and how this has withstood the test of time! |
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So, I know we're into the holidays now but, has anything been accomplished by the programmer? Since the App itself works just fine on Mojave, and the sound (bubbles) work when the screen saver activates, I'm venturing to guess it could be a relatively was fix.
A GoFundMe for programming time to fix the OS X Mojave version? I bet we could get a few donations for programming hours... Ho, Ho, Ho Happy holidays! |
I haven't heard whether Jim O'Conner has had any luck with a fix. My own conversion of the program to Unity is probably a year away. If and when that happens, I plan to make the upgrade free for previous Mac users.
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Here, I'll commit right now: $100 the minute you can point me to a site that'll accept it and the team commits to a Mac version. |
I just never could bring myself to do a GoFundMe or Kickstarter. What if the project never got completed? I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
At least nothing is at risk with trying to do it myself in Unity. Thanks to Roku, I can at least survive for the next year while I try. Edit: Well, I looked into it further, and apparently Unity programs can't be used as screensavers. Unity can't show its output on any screen other than its own, so the little Preview window in the Windows Screensaver Settings won't work. Mac has its own issues also, but if I can't do it in Windows, there's no reason to do it for the small Mac audience. This is especially disappointing for me, since I've been studying Unity for months and it looked like all kinds of new features would be possible in the Aquarium. |
My nephew is pretty good with Unity. I'll ask him about this. If the preview window doesn't work, that doesn't seem like a huge deal. A bit of looking around makes it look like you can run Unity stuff as screensavers if you package it up right and it seems like running it in a borderless window will support spanning multiple monitors.
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Detailed discussion about it: https://forum.unity.com/threads/unit...eleased.81345/ Download the package: https://assetstore.unity.com/package...er-builder-770 |
That's the link I sent to my nephew. I asked him to come up with a proof of concept and code to share. I'll post whatever he comes up with.
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Yeah, I had seen that one. The thread is about 8 years old, and the guy's website is no longer up. His framework was Windows-only, and a lot of people seemed to have trouble getting it to work. Yesterday I posted in a current thread in the Unity Forum, but someone was already asking the same questions and not getting any answers.
The major issues: -Can Unity properly handle the unique requirements of a Windows screensaver at all? (Maybe I could put a static pic in the Preview window, but there are a lot of other requirements.) -If so, can it do the same for Mac? (After all, that's the main reason to switch from OpenGL.) -How about iOS? (An Apple exec has been asking about this, especially AppleTV. Can't do it while I have a Roku exclusive, but maybe next year.) -Is the overhead for the enormous Unity system going to cause an unacceptably long startup delay? |
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