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Jim Sachs 09-12-2008 04:10 PM

The reason it will take a while is that the program needs to be in a semi-finished state before we commit resources to language issues. For the first few weeks of Beta releases, there will be many changes and we don't want to keep going back to a dozen translators with each change.

Mith 09-13-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 104950)
The reason it will take a while is that the program needs to be in a semi-finished state before we commit resources to language issues. For the first few weeks of Beta releases, there will be many changes and we don't want to keep going back to a dozen translators with each change.


I say, if you don't speak ENGLISH....:rolleyes:......

heh

hololo 09-14-2008 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 104950)
few weeks of Beta releases

Oct 2008 for Beta, release before Dec 31 2008?

Jim Sachs 09-14-2008 11:37 AM

Who knows? If all the remaining bugs would become obvious, then I could release the Beta today. Or tomorrow. Or next week. Or next month. With software, the only thing that ever comes from setting a date is disappointment.

jleslie 09-14-2008 12:15 PM

BTW I spotted this feature on the new Sony-Ericsson X1 phone:

A “mini aquarium” where you could feed the fish and pester them. Even better - the different fish reflected the state of the phone. One fish changed colors if you had voicemail, another if you had email, and yet another told you whether or not the phone was on silent or vibrate or LOUD or whatnot. This panel was super fun.
(From http://wmexperts.com/reviews/smartph...ons_of_th.html and the current front-runner to be my next phone, in October...)

I'm pretty confident this feature won't make it into SS though... BUT it would be cool to add/remove fish on events though, like a received e-mail or calendar reminder... very cool! V3.1 anybody? (I know... I know...)

John

jleslie 09-17-2008 01:39 PM

Wow - I single-handedly managed to stop this thread in its tracks... who'd have believed that was possible (okay, with a little help from Ike).
:-)
John

johnblommers 09-17-2008 01:55 PM

Sometimes I have the opposite effect :D

Tiny Turtle 09-17-2008 04:41 PM

:D

hololo 09-19-2008 07:01 AM

any new information?

Jav400 09-19-2008 07:53 AM

Not so far, Jim and Edgar are tracking down the latest bugs and correcting them.

bigbass22 09-21-2008 11:09 PM

Hi Jim
I have been around since the long ago days of the.99's. Since then I've survived both a heart attack and retirement. We all have regrets and I was wondering when it comes to V. 2.6 what were yours? In hindsight was there anything you would have done differently with the release?

Jim Sachs 09-22-2008 12:40 PM

I needed to stay in touch with programming better. After turning the code over to Prolific, I lost control of it. It became a one-way process, where I would create some fish or make some other improvement, submit the changes to the Prolific programmers, and never actually see the code again. When I finally made the mental committment to finsih MA3, it was nearly impossible for me to get back into programming. I had to start all over again, writing it in DirectX8/9, but with my advancing age it was Greek to me. I've learned that if I go for more than a couple of days without looking at the code, it's very hard to get back into it, so I plan to go immediately into the Freshwater Tank after MA3 is finished.

Isabeau 09-23-2008 03:26 AM

Working late again I see Jim? In Holland it's 11.18 now so it must be 2 or 3.18 overthere depending on the timezone. I realy hope i can purchase the update to V3 soon or download the Beta. I'm a real fan of the program for a long time. By the way if you want a Dutch version I might be able to help you out if you like.

For later pleasant and inspiaring dreams here in Holland I'm half way the working day schedualing my classes at INHolland University

Bye Guus Eberstadt van der Velden

Jim Sachs 09-23-2008 10:17 AM

I usually work until 2 or 3 in the morning. The MA3 Beta is extremely close.

memilm 09-23-2008 10:29 AM

"Freshwater Tank" after MA3 would be very nice...

loub516 09-23-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

The MA3 Beta is extremely close
It is, after all, almost October. :)

JEBrady 09-23-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105113)
I usually work until 2 or 3 in the morning. The MA3 Beta is extremely close.

Woohoo! Here's hoping it's just some minor niggling left and no showstoppers.

Jim Sachs 09-23-2008 11:04 AM

I'm still waiting for an nVidia 6600 AGP card which I bought on eBay over a week ago. There have been problems reported with this card in a multimonitor setup, and I need to do some more testing. Nearly all the remaining bugs have something to do with multimonitor support.

During testing so far, it has become obvious that card manufacturers have not done a very good job of standardizing the way multimonitors are handled on a driver level. Many problems have been fixed by rolling back to a previous driver, or using the same driver number, but downloaded from a different source ?!

JEBrady 09-23-2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105117)
I'm still waiting for an nVidia 6600 AGP card which I bought on eBay over a week ago. There have been problems reported with this card in a multimonitor setup, and I need to do some more testing. Nearly all the remaining bugs have something to do with multimonitor support.

During testing so far, it has become obvious that card manufacturers have not done a very good job of standardizing the way multimonitors are handled on a driver level. Many problems have been fixed by rolling back to a previous driver, or using the same driver number, but downloaded from a different source ?!

I try not to think too much about graphics card drivers, it's just too frustrating. I've had an HD 3850 AGP for half a year, and every driver ATI has put out since I bought it is a hotfix.

Anyone trying to make a graphics app compatible with every vid card out there...what an aneurism.

Jim Sachs 09-23-2008 01:11 PM

I can't describe the frustration in dealing with video hardware. I wonder if Steven Spielberg would continue making movies if every projecter was different, and he had to personally go to each theater to figure out why his movie wouldn't play.

Tiny Turtle 09-23-2008 01:17 PM

Yeah, Spielberg and all the other independent small-scale one man operations in the movie business... :)

drfish 09-23-2008 01:43 PM

That got me thinking of Lucas and THX... You may be on to something Jim... ;)

cohiba420 09-23-2008 01:56 PM

Patiently awaiting!
 
Can't wait!!! Great to hear things are getting so 'close'!

***doing the "it's-almost-here-happy-dance!"***

rctneil 09-24-2008 09:35 AM

Really glad to hear it's very soon and really cannot wait for the beta to arrive

henemly 09-24-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105113)
The MA3 Beta is extremely close.

Yahoo! Maybe '08 after all. :lol:

joltdude 09-24-2008 03:19 PM

Need a Geforce 6600 AGP
 
I have a Geforce 6600 AGP card iv been using in a Ubuntu Linux box if you need one.... And im in MA ;)

PM or email me... jolt at em es en dot com

hololo 09-25-2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105113)
The MA3 Beta is extremely close.

WOW~ No more than 72 hours?

johnblommers 09-25-2008 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105120)
...personally go to each theater to figure out why his movie wouldn't play.

Oh come on now, you don't personally go over to the homes of your testers :D

Jim Sachs 09-25-2008 02:46 AM

Sure I do. Your house is scheduled for next Tuesday :)

kona001 09-26-2008 03:54 AM

Very glad to hear we are so close? Can't wait to run it on my new Thinkpad X200 :)

troyb 09-26-2008 06:41 AM

Good morning one question Mr. Sachs will 3.0 run on a 64 bit gateway I talked my sister inlaw into buying 2.6 which ran fine until she bought a new gateway now the fish vanish except for there tails and fins her computer has a ati card Thank you oh yes I have been running ss since .99 and I will buy 3.0 when it is ready again Thank you

Jav400 09-26-2008 06:50 AM

Without knowing what video card you have in that machine a definitive answer is not possible, but if it is a recently purchased machine then most probably yes.

As for the other machine, its not the machine but the video card you have installed in it. You could probably update the video drivers for that card and the program would run fine again. ATI video drivers are iffy at best. Generally you need to try several different ones to obtain one that will work properly.

PS. Welcome to our forum. :)

troyb 09-26-2008 07:09 AM

Thank you and gool luck on getting 3.0 out Mr.Sachs

Tiny Turtle 09-26-2008 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by troyb (Post 105161)
Good morning one question Mr. Sachs will 3.0 run on a 64 bit gateway I talked my sister inlaw into buying 2.6 which ran fine until she bought a new gateway now the fish vanish except for there tails and fins her computer has a ati card Thank you oh yes I have been running ss since .99 and I will buy 3.0 when it is ready again Thank you

The very same problem was discussed just recently in this thread.

johnblommers 09-26-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 105151)
Sure I do [make house calls]. Your house is scheduled for next Tuesday :)

Cool. Please bring the blue tractor as I have some landscaping tasks in mind :TU:

feldon34 09-26-2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by troyb (Post 105161)
Good morning one question Mr. Sachs will 3.0 run on a 64 bit gateway I talked my sister inlaw into buying 2.6 which ran fine until she bought a new gateway now the fish vanish except for there tails and fins her computer has a ati card Thank you oh yes I have been running ss since .99 and I will buy 3.0 when it is ready again Thank you

The problem is ATI has always written atrocious drivers. Download different versions until it works.

Mith 09-26-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cohiba420 (Post 105123)
Can't wait!!! Great to hear things are getting so 'close'!

***doing the "it's-almost-here-happy-dance!"***


(Not to be confused with the, "I really really gotta pee dance")

:D

Highlander 09-27-2008 09:58 AM

Extremely close hmm sounds nice.

BUT i have some problems with my laptop MSI L745, whenever the screensaver starts i can only see it for 1 sec and then it is going away, like i touch the mousse or a key.

there is nothing running in the background

Anyone has an idea??? im using VISTA 32 bit home premium


Thanks

Jim Sachs 09-27-2008 12:19 PM

Highlander - There are a couple of possibilities.

The easiest one first: make sure "Exit on Mouse Move" is off. Sometimes a mouse can send random signals even when it's not moving.

The other possibility is that something really is running in the background, but you don't know it. Actually, there are probably at least 50 things running in the background on a Vista machine. While they don't usually generate Interrupt messages which would kill the Aquarium, it's been known to happen. Music players, network and Internet routines, MagicJack - make absolutly sure that nothing is trying to bring up a window.

Highlander 09-27-2008 05:21 PM

Thanks Jim , i will check this out first thing in the morning


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