Marine Aquarium 3 Beta INSTALLER test - Page 20

GWG · 06-04-2009, 01:10 PM

Installed Beta 10d on the Following Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100 machines
Toshiba Satellite L35-S2151 Model# PSL33U-026018 laptop
Windows 7 RC1 32 bit version displayed
55 fps (1280x800x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL (pure hw vp): ATI Radon Xpress Series
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1280x800

Fry’s ECS G31T-M motherboard & Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
Windows 7 RC1 64 bit version displayed
86 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL (sw vp): Intel® G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation – WDDM 1.0)
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768

When I added a e-Gforce 7200 256MB DDR2 P/N:256-P2-N429-LR card it displayed
111 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL ((pure hw vp): NVIDEA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 (Prelease - WDDM 1.0)
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768

Both 32 and 64 bit versions work fine for Windows 7

bratboy · 06-04-2009, 01:19 PM

Hey Jim, if the installer gets updated will you be making an announcement? Hard to tell from the first post link which version is currently up

feldon34 · 06-04-2009, 03:44 PM

This thread contains the links to download the latest Installer and Standalone versions of MA3:
Marine Aquarium 3 Beta NEWS & DOWNLOAD

You can SUBSCRIBE to that thread to receive an e-mail any time there is an updated version. There is currently no way to get an e-mail ONLY when the Installer version is updated.

It wouldn't do to subscribe to THIS thread, as it is a discussion thread and gets lots of hits during the month.

Jim Sachs · 06-04-2009, 03:50 PM

Yeah, I'll make an announcement.

feldon34 · 06-04-2009, 03:52 PM

If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to. It would be structured in a similar way to the Beta thread that you've been posting to.

I would scale back some of the rhetoric and if folks want more info, they can go over to the Beta thread and read more detail..

patscarr · 06-05-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by feldon33:

I'm not the only one here with graphic design skills, you know.

Sounds like a challenge, Mark.

Originally posted by feldon33:

If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to.

Sounds like a great idea, Morgan.

dwax · 06-05-2009, 11:09 AM

See the installer still only has beta a in it.

Jim Sachs · 06-05-2009, 11:30 AM

I'm hoping Prolific will be able to get Beta10d up as the official version today.

JamesMeacham2005 · 06-05-2009, 11:52 AM

Jim first I want to say I love your new aqarium and I love more each day. Question and I'm not sure this is the right thread. I wanted to add some of my music but it appears the tracks I got from itunes store are mp4 format. Will this format be supported in future updates?

Jim Sachs · 06-05-2009, 01:05 PM

I'm not sure yet. In the meantime, there are a lot of programs available to convert them to MP3, WMA, or AIFF formats.

Ralph · 06-05-2009, 07:59 PM

OOPS.. it seems that the new MarineAquarium3-2.exe when installed removes the play list of the beta version...Yet does not remove or change the logo setup / files

Jim Sachs · 06-05-2009, 08:24 PM

That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer.

Dale · 06-05-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer.

I technically agree that it's safest. But:

It would be called a BUG in the installer, if it changes any pre-existing user settings.

And, beating a dead horse - there's no current user documentation telling users where the playlists are.

Jim Sachs · 06-05-2009, 09:22 PM

Beta.

Dale · 06-06-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Beta.

I guess I didn't realize that the installer code (itself) was considered to be Beta.

Presumably, a bug report in this thread (such as the one Ralph reported) gets it fixed.

feldon34 · 06-06-2009, 08:45 AM

The whole purpose of the installer was to create a blank playlist in the correct folder on all possible systems from 2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7. There was no easy way to communicate to the user that due to Microsoft finagling, the folder the MA3 looks for logos and playlists is quite different on different systems.

Everything else, the user can figure out themselves.

Going forward, the installer should check for the existence of the file and not overwrite it though.

Jim Sachs · 06-06-2009, 09:52 AM

This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands.

GWG · 06-06-2009, 11:02 AM

Installer Date ? ScreneScreen 3,606,351 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.193

Installer May 11 fish-byte 3,562,114 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,696,960 Bytes T511.3.0.186

Download June 3 fish-byte gives Ma3Beta.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.37

All fine in Windows 7 RC1 x64

Does ScreneScreen install 10d? (Bytes of scr match)

Dale · 06-06-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands.

I have no problem with that, now that I know.

The question is how (if) we should report problems with the installer. Here? SereneScreen "tech support"? Somewhere else?

Jim Sachs · 06-06-2009, 11:55 AM

GWG - The latest installer version at SereneScreen.com is 10d (which is the very latest version as of today, June 6). Simply run the Aquarium and press the "S" key to show the Statistics, which includes the version number. The number of bytes and the "T..." number will vary depending on whether that copy of the program was compiled on my system or Edgar's.

Dale - I guess this is as good a place as any to report installer problems.

06-04-2009, 03:44 PM	#383
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	This thread contains the links to download the latest Installer and Standalone versions of MA3: Marine Aquarium 3 Beta NEWS & DOWNLOAD You can SUBSCRIBE to that thread to receive an e-mail any time there is an updated version. There is currently no way to get an e-mail ONLY when the Installer version is updated. It wouldn't do to subscribe to THIS thread, as it is a discussion thread and gets lots of hits during the month. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-04-2009, 03:50 PM	#384
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yeah, I'll make an announcement. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-04-2009, 03:52 PM	#385
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to. It would be structured in a similar way to the Beta thread that you've been posting to. I would scale back some of the rhetoric and if folks want more info, they can go over to the Beta thread and read more detail.. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-05-2009, 05:23 AM	#386
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Originally posted by feldon33: I'm not the only one here with graphic design skills, you know. Sounds like a challenge, Mark. Originally posted by feldon33: If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to. Sounds like a great idea, Morgan. Patrick

06-05-2009, 11:09 AM	#387
dwax Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 83	See the installer still only has beta a in it. By dustywax at 2011-12-13

06-04-2009, 01:10 PM	#381
GWG Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 5	Installed Beta 10d on the Following Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100 machines Toshiba Satellite L35-S2151 Model# PSL33U-026018 laptop Windows 7 RC1 32 bit version displayed 55 fps (1280x800x32) #0 Beta 10d HAL (pure hw vp): ATI Radon Xpress Series Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1280x800 Fry’s ECS G31T-M motherboard & Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Windows 7 RC1 64 bit version displayed 86 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d HAL (sw vp): Intel® G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation – WDDM 1.0) Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768 When I added a e-Gforce 7200 256MB DDR2 P/N:256-P2-N429-LR card it displayed 111 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d HAL ((pure hw vp): NVIDEA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 (Prelease - WDDM 1.0) Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768 Both 32 and 64 bit versions work fine for Windows 7

06-04-2009, 01:19 PM	#382
bratboy Here Fishy Fishy! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 75	Hey Jim, if the installer gets updated will you be making an announcement? Hard to tell from the first post link which version is currently up

06-05-2009, 11:30 AM	#388
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	I'm hoping Prolific will be able to get Beta10d up as the official version today. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-05-2009, 11:52 AM	#389
JamesMeacham2005 Registered Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17	music question Jim first I want to say I love your new aqarium and I love more each day. Question and I'm not sure this is the right thread. I wanted to add some of my music but it appears the tracks I got from itunes store are mp4 format. Will this format be supported in future updates?

06-05-2009, 01:05 PM	#390
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	I'm not sure yet. In the meantime, there are a lot of programs available to convert them to MP3, WMA, or AIFF formats. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-05-2009, 07:59 PM	#391
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	OOPS.. it seems that the new MarineAquarium3-2.exe when installed removes the play list of the beta version...Yet does not remove or change the logo setup / files

06-05-2009, 08:24 PM	#392
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-05-2009, 09:11 PM	#393
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer. I technically agree that it's safest. But: It would be called a BUG in the installer, if it changes any pre-existing user settings. And, beating a dead horse - there's no current user documentation telling users where the playlists are.

06-05-2009, 09:22 PM	#394
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Beta. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-06-2009, 08:41 AM	#395
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Beta. I guess I didn't realize that the installer code (itself) was considered to be Beta. Presumably, a bug report in this thread (such as the one Ralph reported) gets it fixed.

06-06-2009, 08:45 AM	#396
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The whole purpose of the installer was to create a blank playlist in the correct folder on all possible systems from 2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7. There was no easy way to communicate to the user that due to Microsoft finagling, the folder the MA3 looks for logos and playlists is quite different on different systems. Everything else, the user can figure out themselves. Going forward, the installer should check for the existence of the file and not overwrite it though. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-06-2009, 09:52 AM	#397
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-06-2009, 11:02 AM	#398
GWG Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 5	Installer Date ? ScreneScreen 3,606,351 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.193 Installer May 11 fish-byte 3,562,114 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,696,960 Bytes T511.3.0.186 Download June 3 fish-byte gives Ma3Beta.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.37 All fine in Windows 7 RC1 x64 Does ScreneScreen install 10d? (Bytes of scr match)

06-06-2009, 11:12 AM	#399
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands. I have no problem with that, now that I know. The question is how (if) we should report problems with the installer. Here? SereneScreen "tech support"? Somewhere else?

06-06-2009, 11:55 AM	#400
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	GWG - The latest installer version at SereneScreen.com is 10d (which is the very latest version as of today, June 6). Simply run the Aquarium and press the "S" key to show the Statistics, which includes the version number. The number of bytes and the "T..." number will vary depending on whether that copy of the program was compiled on my system or Edgar's. Dale - I guess this is as good a place as any to report installer problems. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium