Beta 11m discussion - Page 3

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 09:26 AM

Cliff - I know that you don't use the music feature, so the UP/DN arrow keys won't be any use to you. But I need a quick way to adjust ONLY the Aquarium sound without affecting the general system sound. An executive is listening to music, and gets a call on Skype. He still wants the music softly in the background, but if he uses the system volume or the speaker's volume knob, he also loses the Skype volume.

JohnWho - not a typo, just an oversight. I increased the limit, but forgot to change the slider. Lets make it 124, because the ticks come out even.

henemly · 06-13-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

The up-down arrows adjust the volume

Good feature, and it works well too.

joltdude · 06-13-2010, 09:44 AM

Windows 7 64bit faulted after I right click and installed the current beta build and inserted the CD for 2.6 to unlock it..

Beta 11n

Works with TESTFISH but wont unlock with the Encore CD

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 09:56 AM

It's possible that by compiling it as a Beta, Edgar's disk-checking code is bybassed. I don't have a quick way of testing this, but the current session of Beta-testing is nearly over, and I will be posting a full Release version soon.

cjmaddy · 06-13-2010, 11:27 AM

Jim, - Where did I suggest using the system volume, or the speaker's volume knob? - I was suggesting using your MA3 'M' button. What could be a quicker and easier way to adjust ONLY the Aquarium sound without affecting the general system sound than that, for your 'executive'? - Yes, the Up/Down arrow keys change the volume beautifully smoothly and slowly. But they aren't needed when you already have a volume slider..... How many ways to change or stop the music does an executive need?

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 11:28 AM

The M key shuts it off completely. I just want to turn it down. My wife and I have this argument all the time. When she has the TV remote, she'll always hit Mute during commercials, while I will always turn the volume down.

cjmaddy · 06-13-2010, 11:48 AM

Ok.....

(Thinks)..... Glad I'm not an executive, - think of all the problems they must have, watching the Aquarium whilst listening to music!

ps, You should follow the advice of your wife more. - That's what the Mute button is for.

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 11:58 AM

If I mute the TV sound during commercials, how will I know what cereal to buy?

Everyone - v11o is up: http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

Some slight changes to behavior of controls in Settings. Not compiled as a Beta, so Statistics don't default to ON.

Joltdude - try this one.

hayc59 · 06-13-2010, 12:20 PM

Jim, Very Nice Version and Thank You!!
I would like to report, that I have always
had a problem after using the saver and hitting 'escape'
my cursor would dis-appear for a short time, seems that issue is gone with this version??
darn gremlins..

G

Ralph · 06-13-2010, 12:57 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with Cliff.. The "M' key works just fine.. that executive can find it just as easy.. and is instantaneous. Perhaps, one could tweak it by having a "music muted" indication on the screen.... the display of which one could toggle off and on in a Settings Panel.. (for those executives that have a short or long attention span)

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 01:00 PM

Hiting M turns the music off. I just want to turn it down a bit without having to go into Settings.

Ralph · 06-13-2010, 01:08 PM

These updates are coming faster than I can keep up... Did I miss something in version "N"..
I notice that the "Limit frame rate" was not checked by default in this version.. I think it should be.. some folks are going to run this thing at !00% CPU without knowing about the option....

Dale · 06-13-2010, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by joltdude:

Windows 7 64bit faulted after I right click and installed the current beta build and inserted the CD for 2.6 to unlock it..

Beta 11n

Works with TESTFISH but wont unlock with the Encore CD

What has succeeded for you in the past?

If you haven't tried this, then I suggest doing the following:
A. Get Version 10d from SereneScreen download.
B. Install it, and unlock it using the CD. **
C. Then try the current Beta.

** if step B fails, then you have a different problem from Jim's suggestion.

D. In any case, please come back and report results.

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 01:25 PM

Ralph - Limit Frame Rate now defaults to ON. This means that the first time the program is run (when there are not yet any Registry entries), it will be ON. But if you have run the program and turned it off, that position will be saved in the Registry. CTRL-R restores the default position (ON, with a limit of 90).

henemly · 06-13-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Hiting M turns the music off. I just want to turn it down a bit without having to go into Settings.

PLEASE don't remove this feature too, its GREAT. (up/down/arrow/volume)

JohnWho · 06-13-2010, 01:33 PM

Agree.

As I mentioned, I've got some music that, for whatever reason, is not as loud as other songs. It is helpful to be able to easily raise the volume and then turn it back down again for another song that is louder.

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 01:44 PM

It will stay. Also notice that when using the arrow keys to change the volume in the Program Settings screen, the slider moves at a more reasonable rate now.

Dale · 06-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

It will stay. Also notice that when using the arrow keys to change the volume in the Program Settings screen, the slider moves at a more reasonable rate now.

And the volume control is documented in the About panel.

Ralph · 06-13-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Ralph - Limit Frame Rate now defaults to ON. This means that the first time the program is run (when there are not yet any Registry entries), it will be ON. But if you have run the program and turned it off, that position will be saved in the Registry. CTRL-R restores the default position (ON, with a limit of 90).

I mentioned it only because with the release of "O" it did not. Possibly I had left version "M" with it off while trying to help Dale.

06-13-2010, 09:26 AM	#41
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Cliff - I know that you don't use the music feature, so the UP/DN arrow keys won't be any use to you. But I need a quick way to adjust ONLY the Aquarium sound without affecting the general system sound. An executive is listening to music, and gets a call on Skype. He still wants the music softly in the background, but if he uses the system volume or the speaker's volume knob, he also loses the Skype volume. JohnWho - not a typo, just an oversight. I increased the limit, but forgot to change the slider. Lets make it 124, because the ticks come out even. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 09:56 AM	#44
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	It's possible that by compiling it as a Beta, Edgar's disk-checking code is bybassed. I don't have a quick way of testing this, but the current session of Beta-testing is nearly over, and I will be posting a full Release version soon. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 11:28 AM	#46
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The M key shuts it off completely. I just want to turn it down. My wife and I have this argument all the time. When she has the TV remote, she'll always hit Mute during commercials, while I will always turn the volume down. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 11:58 AM	#48
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	If I mute the TV sound during commercials, how will I know what cereal to buy? Everyone - v11o is up: http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip Some slight changes to behavior of controls in Settings. Not compiled as a Beta, so Statistics don't default to ON. Joltdude - try this one. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 12:20 PM	#49
hayc59 VoodØØ Child™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 252	Jim, Very Nice Version and Thank You!! I would like to report, that I have always had a problem after using the saver and hitting 'escape' my cursor would dis-appear for a short time, seems that issue is gone with this version?? darn gremlins.. G ãrê ¥Øu êxpêriêncêÐ 9.11.01 Never Forget God Bless America

06-13-2010, 09:36 AM	#42
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: The up-down arrows adjust the volume Good feature, and it works well too.

06-13-2010, 11:27 AM	#45
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Jim, - Where did I suggest using the system volume, or the speaker's volume knob? - I was suggesting using your MA3 'M' button. What could be a quicker and easier way to adjust ONLY the Aquarium sound without affecting the general system sound than that, for your 'executive'? - Yes, the Up/Down arrow keys change the volume beautifully smoothly and slowly. But they aren't needed when you already have a volume slider..... How many ways to change or stop the music does an executive need?

06-13-2010, 11:48 AM	#47
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Ok..... (Thinks)..... Glad I'm not an executive, - think of all the problems they must have, watching the Aquarium whilst listening to music! ps, You should follow the advice of your wife more. - That's what the Mute button is for.

06-13-2010, 12:57 PM	#50
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	I agree wholeheartedly with Cliff.. The "M' key works just fine.. that executive can find it just as easy.. and is instantaneous. Perhaps, one could tweak it by having a "music muted" indication on the screen.... the display of which one could toggle off and on in a Settings Panel.. (for those executives that have a short or long attention span)

06-13-2010, 01:00 PM	#51
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Hiting M turns the music off. I just want to turn it down a bit without having to go into Settings. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 01:08 PM	#52
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	These updates are coming faster than I can keep up... Did I miss something in version "N".. I notice that the "Limit frame rate" was not checked by default in this version.. I think it should be.. some folks are going to run this thing at !00% CPU without knowing about the option....

06-13-2010, 01:11 PM	#53
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by joltdude: Windows 7 64bit faulted after I right click and installed the current beta build and inserted the CD for 2.6 to unlock it.. Beta 11n Works with TESTFISH but wont unlock with the Encore CD What has succeeded for you in the past? If you haven't tried this, then I suggest doing the following: A. Get Version 10d from SereneScreen download. B. Install it, and unlock it using the CD. C. Then try the current Beta. if step B fails, then you have a different problem from Jim's suggestion. D. In any case, please come back and report results.

06-13-2010, 01:25 PM	#54
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Ralph - Limit Frame Rate now defaults to ON. This means that the first time the program is run (when there are not yet any Registry entries), it will be ON. But if you have run the program and turned it off, that position will be saved in the Registry. CTRL-R restores the default position (ON, with a limit of 90). Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 01:30 PM	#55
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Hiting M turns the music off. I just want to turn it down a bit without having to go into Settings. PLEASE don't remove this feature too, its GREAT. (up/down/arrow/volume)

06-13-2010, 01:33 PM	#56
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Agree. As I mentioned, I've got some music that, for whatever reason, is not as loud as other songs. It is helpful to be able to easily raise the volume and then turn it back down again for another song that is louder. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#57
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	It will stay. Also notice that when using the arrow keys to change the volume in the Program Settings screen, the slider moves at a more reasonable rate now. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 02:57 PM	#58
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: It will stay. Also notice that when using the arrow keys to change the volume in the Program Settings screen, the slider moves at a more reasonable rate now. And the volume control is documented in the About panel.

06-13-2010, 03:07 PM	#59
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Ralph - Limit Frame Rate now defaults to ON. This means that the first time the program is run (when there are not yet any Registry entries), it will be ON. But if you have run the program and turned it off, that position will be saved in the Registry. CTRL-R restores the default position (ON, with a limit of 90). I mentioned it only because with the release of "O" it did not. Possibly I had left version "M" with it off while trying to help Dale.