Frame Rate Control - Page 2

hayc59 · 06-13-2010, 01:21 PM

Windows XP Pro SP3
BETA 11o

Dale · 06-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by hayc59:

BETA 11o

Frame rate setting is in "Program Settings".

Two ways to get there:
In XP, in Screen Saver Settings, click on Settings, then Program Settings.
Or, while MA3 is running, press the Space Bar, then click on Program Settings.

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 01:53 PM

Or right-click on the Aquarium window and choose Settings.

JohnWho · 06-13-2010, 01:55 PM

Does XP allow "right click" on Shortcut and then select "configure"?

hayc59 · 06-13-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by JohnWho:

Does XP allow "right click" on Shortcut and then select "configure"?

Yes and found it...with right click and setting
thank you!!

cjmaddy · 06-13-2010, 03:51 PM

Jim, as a long-time experimenter with 3D glasses and nVidia stereo drivers, I understand your reasoning for allowing 120hz, (60hz per eye). - However, this product is aimed at a mass world-wide market, yes? - How many average user's monitors do you know of with a 90hz refresh rate? - Surely it would make sense to have the default FRL=60 ? - I have just set mine to 90, (from a normal 60), and I now have a maxed-out CPU usage of 100% .... NOT good!

Added to this, without default on-screen statistics, there will be no indication of what the FPS is set to. - I think the default should be set to 60. - Those few of your customers knowledgable enough to be operating 3D systems, will soon find out how to increase the Frame-Rate setting.
That, after all, is surely what the User Guide will be for?

Edit:-

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Not sure if any of the old posts survive, but stereovision was a hot topic until DX8 came out and eliminated it. The fish looked fantastic in 3D, but the background was so obviously 2D that it ruined the effect. DX9 reinstated stereo capability, so I immediately set to work on a 3D background. My goal is to publish one of the first home-brew 3D Blu-Ray DVDs.

Just done a quick check, Jim. - I think this was one of the last threads on 3D glasses.....
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=2304

ps..... I still have my Elsa 3D Revelator glasses in their box under my desk, gathering dust!

feldon34 · 06-13-2010, 04:47 PM

The default ought to be 60, but Unlimited should always be an option, and without editing the Registry.

Jim Sachs · 06-13-2010, 05:08 PM

Cliff and Morgan - Agreed, 60 it is.

I also have my old Revelator glasses gathering dust. I don't know if there will be any way of getting them to work with the new system. The new 3D Vision glasses are all wireless.

As far as the majority of existing customers having old-school equipment, Agreed. But if I'm going to get back on track financially, I need NEW customers. As I learned with the Commodore 64, Amiga, and MA, the only way to be really successful is to be the first one on the bandwagon. If MA3.1 is one of only 3 or 4 products which can show off everyone's new 3D TV, I'll be back in the saddle again. Samsung is already using the idea of a 3D marine aquarium in all their ads.

cjmaddy · 06-14-2010, 02:56 AM

That sounds like a good logical strategy, Jim. - Personally though, I tend to take the Ebert view.... And no! - It's not just an age thing.

06-13-2010, 01:21 PM	#21
hayc59 VoodØØ Child™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 252	Windows XP Pro SP3 BETA 11o ãrê ¥Øu êxpêriêncêÐ 9.11.01 Never Forget God Bless America

06-13-2010, 01:53 PM	#23
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Or right-click on the Aquarium window and choose Settings. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-13-2010, 01:55 PM	#24
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Does XP allow "right click" on Shortcut and then select "configure"? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-13-2010, 01:59 PM	#25
hayc59 VoodØØ Child™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 252	Originally posted by JohnWho: Does XP allow "right click" on Shortcut and then select "configure"? Yes and found it...with right click and setting thank you!! ãrê ¥Øu êxpêriêncêÐ 9.11.01 Never Forget God Bless America

06-13-2010, 04:47 PM	#27
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The default ought to be 60, but Unlimited should always be an option, and without editing the Registry. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-13-2010, 01:43 PM	#22
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by hayc59: BETA 11o Frame rate setting is in "Program Settings". Two ways to get there: In XP, in Screen Saver Settings, click on Settings, then Program Settings. Or, while MA3 is running, press the Space Bar, then click on Program Settings.

06-13-2010, 03:51 PM	#26
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Jim, as a long-time experimenter with 3D glasses and nVidia stereo drivers, I understand your reasoning for allowing 120hz, (60hz per eye). - However, this product is aimed at a mass world-wide market, yes? - How many average user's monitors do you know of with a 90hz refresh rate? - Surely it would make sense to have the default FRL=60 ? - I have just set mine to 90, (from a normal 60), and I now have a maxed-out CPU usage of 100% .... NOT good! Added to this, without default on-screen statistics, there will be no indication of what the FPS is set to. - I think the default should be set to 60. - Those few of your customers knowledgable enough to be operating 3D systems, will soon find out how to increase the Frame-Rate setting. That, after all, is surely what the User Guide will be for? Edit:- Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Not sure if any of the old posts survive, but stereovision was a hot topic until DX8 came out and eliminated it. The fish looked fantastic in 3D, but the background was so obviously 2D that it ruined the effect. DX9 reinstated stereo capability, so I immediately set to work on a 3D background. My goal is to publish one of the first home-brew 3D Blu-Ray DVDs. Just done a quick check, Jim. - I think this was one of the last threads on 3D glasses..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=2304 ps..... I still have my Elsa 3D Revelator glasses in their box under my desk, gathering dust!

06-13-2010, 05:08 PM	#28
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Cliff and Morgan - Agreed, 60 it is. I also have my old Revelator glasses gathering dust. I don't know if there will be any way of getting them to work with the new system. The new 3D Vision glasses are all wireless. As far as the majority of existing customers having old-school equipment, Agreed. But if I'm going to get back on track financially, I need NEW customers. As I learned with the Commodore 64, Amiga, and MA, the only way to be really successful is to be the first one on the bandwagon. If MA3.1 is one of only 3 or 4 products which can show off everyone's new 3D TV, I'll be back in the saddle again. Samsung is already using the idea of a 3D marine aquarium in all their ads. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-14-2010, 02:56 AM	#29
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	That sounds like a good logical strategy, Jim. - Personally though, I tend to take the Ebert view.... And no! - It's not just an age thing.