Coral

Sasquatch · 03-27-2003, 06:38 PM

Just got my upgrade code a code a couple days ago. Love the new fish!

A few of things though:

- The fish seem to move a little weird sometimes. Hard to describe, other than I've never seen fish do some of the things they do in MA2. Maybe a collision avoidance thing?

- The fish never move from the 'back' of the aquarium to the 'front' of the aquarium. They seem determined to only go side to side. It really gives the aquarium a very 2D feel...

- I seem to recall reading a while back that MA2 was going to have 'interactive' coral. My coral is still the same as in MA1. It just sits there. It sure would be nice to have the clownfish interact the way the do in the wild! It'd also be nice to see the coral at least 'sway' with the current or when a fish bumps or swims past it. I've read that the Goldfish and Freshwater will have these features. Is there any word on whether this is still coming? Please???

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Jim Sachs · 03-27-2003, 07:45 PM

Take a few fish out of the tank and the rest will move from front to back more readily. The way the algorithm works is this: If a fish hits the side limit (either side), or is in the clear area in the middle, the program checks to see if it would collide with any other fish if it swam to the front or back. By "collide", I mean not only is another fish occupying that position, but could it be by the time the first fish gets there. With 7 fish in the tank, there are very few opportunities for swimming front to back.

You did not read that MA2 would have the 3D background. That is still quite a ways in the future.

Jav400 · 03-27-2003, 08:20 PM

Sasquatch,

Welcome to the forum.

The background movement will come with the 3D background along with a few other things. This upgrade was to prepare and support future changes and options.

JimO'Connor · 03-28-2003, 02:19 AM

Sasquatch,

Sorry, nothing changed in the fish driving logic. The major changes, besides UI and the extra fish are internal to support MAT and have to do with memory usage (MA2 for OS 9 can get buy with 500k less memory unless you have two monitors).

Sasquatch · 03-28-2003, 06:45 AM

I'll try to describe it a little better...

MacOS X 10.2.4, G4 Cube, 450 Mhz.

No bubble column or sound, full shimmer.

It's happening in front of all the coral.

All 7 fish are on, random selection

When one of the new bigger fish comes head to head with a smaller fish, the big fish stops and the smaller fish 'bounces' back and forth and 'slides' up or down until it turns a little bit and they swim past each other.

Also, occassionally, one of the fish will 'slide' up or down without equivalent fin movement. This usually occurs near the top and back of the tank.

BTW: Thanks for the great (and fast) replies. Never expected them based on experience in other forums. Kudos to all of you!!

Tiny Turtle · 03-28-2003, 06:57 AM

Whaddaya mean fast? It took 'em over an hour to come up with a reply

/Tiny Turbo

03-27-2003, 06:38 PM	#1
Sasquatch Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 4	Coral Just got my upgrade code a code a couple days ago. Love the new fish! A few of things though: - The fish seem to move a little weird sometimes. Hard to describe, other than I've never seen fish do some of the things they do in MA2. Maybe a collision avoidance thing? - The fish never move from the 'back' of the aquarium to the 'front' of the aquarium. They seem determined to only go side to side. It really gives the aquarium a very 2D feel... - I seem to recall reading a while back that MA2 was going to have 'interactive' coral. My coral is still the same as in MA1. It just sits there. It sure would be nice to have the clownfish interact the way the do in the wild! It'd also be nice to see the coral at least 'sway' with the current or when a fish bumps or swims past it. I've read that the Goldfish and Freshwater will have these features. Is there any word on whether this is still coming? Please??? (Shameless promotion: http://www.aquainnovationsinc.com )

03-27-2003, 07:45 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Take a few fish out of the tank and the rest will move from front to back more readily. The way the algorithm works is this: If a fish hits the side limit (either side), or is in the clear area in the middle, the program checks to see if it would collide with any other fish if it swam to the front or back. By "collide", I mean not only is another fish occupying that position, but could it be by the time the first fish gets there. With 7 fish in the tank, there are very few opportunities for swimming front to back. You did not read that MA2 would have the 3D background. That is still quite a ways in the future. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-27-2003, 08:20 PM	#3
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Sasquatch, Welcome to the forum. The background movement will come with the 3D background along with a few other things. This upgrade was to prepare and support future changes and options. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-28-2003, 02:19 AM	#4
JimO'Connor Mac Development Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kenai, Alaska Posts: 678	Sasquatch, Sorry, nothing changed in the fish driving logic. The major changes, besides UI and the extra fish are internal to support MAT and have to do with memory usage (MA2 for OS 9 can get buy with 500k less memory unless you have two monitors). Jim O'Connor Order N Development

03-28-2003, 06:57 AM	#6
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03-28-2003, 06:45 AM	#5
Sasquatch Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 4	I'll try to describe it a little better... MacOS X 10.2.4, G4 Cube, 450 Mhz. No bubble column or sound, full shimmer. It's happening in front of all the coral. All 7 fish are on, random selection When one of the new bigger fish comes head to head with a smaller fish, the big fish stops and the smaller fish 'bounces' back and forth and 'slides' up or down until it turns a little bit and they swim past each other. Also, occassionally, one of the fish will 'slide' up or down without equivalent fin movement. This usually occurs near the top and back of the tank. BTW: Thanks for the great (and fast) replies. Never expected them based on experience in other forums. Kudos to all of you!!