Aquarium Marine 3.2 - Page 12

Nicki · 01-20-2014, 07:43 PM

Just going sideways slightly for a bit, do the Intel graphics chips support anti aliasing yet? Recently a friend of mine was looking for a new laptop and a new desktop at the same time and doing research for her I found it really limiting how few laptops come with a Core i7 and ATI or NVidia graphics. She was okay with the desktop as she had a graphics card left over from her previous machine.

jimkraz · 01-21-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

OK, so it seems to be a problem with Intel chips.

Jim I have on my desktop a onboard Intel(R)HD Core i3 Processor yet it runs .scr fine, but on my Surface Pro runs a i5 Processor but the feather dusters fail to work.

Jav400 · 01-21-2014, 09:14 AM

Nicki,

Yes I have those options.

Jim Sachs · 01-21-2014, 12:07 PM

I'm trying to figure out the cheapest machine I can get which will duplicate this problem. Best Buy has the least expensive Microsoft Surface for $279. Does anyone have one of those, and does MA3.3 exhibit the problem on it?

jimkraz · 01-21-2014, 12:33 PM

Jim the screensaver will not run on the Surface RT only the Surface Pro, I would think at $279 that is a Surface RT running on ARM processor. .

Jim Sachs · 01-21-2014, 12:45 PM

Darn - that one's $500.

jimkraz · 01-21-2014, 12:51 PM

It would be nice to have the feather dusters working, strange that all other "movement" is working and only the feathers don't, hopefully you'll manage to sort it out. Jim

Jav400 · 01-21-2014, 01:30 PM

Before you go spending money Jim I plan on checking tonight to see if as far as the Intel HD 4600 I have the latest drivers installed or not.

You and I both know how well that usually solves things, but its worth a try. I'll let you know later......

Jav400 · 01-21-2014, 06:19 PM

Well I went through Device Manager and tried to see if there were any later drivers for the 4600 and no luck Jim. So at this point I guess the ball is back in your court.

Jim Sachs · 01-21-2014, 07:55 PM

It would be great if we could duplicate the problem on an inexpensive card I could just pop into my desktop computer.

Nicki · 01-21-2014, 08:09 PM

If I get chance I'll dig out my brother's old laptop with the 4500HD graphics, assuming I can even find it. He never updates anything so all the drivers will be bone stock. I'll see if an update changes anything and also check which DirectX he's got in there.

jimkraz · 01-22-2014, 06:41 AM

But the problem is that the clams movement is ok, the corral movement is ok, the eel movement is ok, why are the feather dusters the only ones not moving ?, it sure is a strange one. Jim

Jim Sachs · 01-22-2014, 09:33 AM

That's why I need to be able to duplicate the problem here. These things can only be solved by trial-and-error, replacing one command at a time and seeing the result. It usually takes hundreds of tries to get it right.

jleslie · 01-22-2014, 11:26 AM

I believe the latest Intel graphics driver is 15.28.20.64.3345 or .3347 (depending on chip) - do you all have that?

Jav400 · 01-22-2014, 01:14 PM

John,

Yes I know I do because when I ran the device manager option and it didn't tell me an update I went manually and checked just to make sure, I never trust those things anyhow. And they did their job building this because that is the driver installed. And as said before, no joy; everything works EXCEPT the feather dusters when the laptop is running using the Intel chip for power conservation.

jleslie · 01-22-2014, 01:31 PM

Checked with Intel or with Microsoft? Quite different things. (Just asking.)

Jav400 · 01-22-2014, 01:50 PM

Yeap, I agree. Which is why I checked manually on Intel's driver page after the first one said it was up to date.

Jim Sachs · 01-23-2014, 09:39 AM

While it's possible that drivers are causing the problem, I really need to fix it on my end. Since the other objects are working properly, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to get the extra featherdusters to move, too. I just need to find a way of duplicating the problem, so that I can start the trial-and-error procedures.

philosopher · 01-24-2014, 01:25 PM

Jim,

If you get lucky you might be able to duplicate the problem when using Microsoft's Surface Simulator program:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...rface.10).aspx

You can run it using Microsoft's free version of Visual Studio - Visual Studio Express:
http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/pr...xpress-vs.aspx

Worth a try maybe?

Jean-Pierre Marro · 01-24-2014, 11:02 PM

Hello Jim,
I come you ask if it would not be possible to put in the Left(Awkward) part(party) of the Aquarium (or there is a starfish) which(who) is emptier than the rest:

1-Une column of bubble?
2-Un crab also?
3-And especially your signature? What is normal seen the work which you make on your "Baby" if I may say so.

While waiting for Thank you for all the work already carried out(already achieved).
Good Weekend.

01-20-2014, 07:43 PM	#221
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	Just going sideways slightly for a bit, do the Intel graphics chips support anti aliasing yet? Recently a friend of mine was looking for a new laptop and a new desktop at the same time and doing research for her I found it really limiting how few laptops come with a Core i7 and ATI or NVidia graphics. She was okay with the desktop as she had a graphics card left over from her previous machine. Run you clever boy. And remember...

01-21-2014, 08:09 AM	#222
jimkraz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Troon, Scotland Posts: 125	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: OK, so it seems to be a problem with Intel chips. Jim I have on my desktop a onboard Intel(R)HD Core i3 Processor yet it runs .scr fine, but on my Surface Pro runs a i5 Processor but the feather dusters fail to work. Something Fishy Going On

01-21-2014, 09:14 AM	#223
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Nicki, Yes I have those options. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-21-2014, 12:07 PM	#224
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	I'm trying to figure out the cheapest machine I can get which will duplicate this problem. Best Buy has the least expensive Microsoft Surface for $279. Does anyone have one of those, and does MA3.3 exhibit the problem on it? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-21-2014, 12:33 PM	#225
jimkraz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Troon, Scotland Posts: 125	Jim the screensaver will not run on the Surface RT only the Surface Pro, I would think at $279 that is a Surface RT running on ARM processor. . Something Fishy Going On

01-21-2014, 12:45 PM	#226
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Darn - that one's $500. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-21-2014, 12:51 PM	#227
jimkraz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Troon, Scotland Posts: 125	It would be nice to have the feather dusters working, strange that all other "movement" is working and only the feathers don't, hopefully you'll manage to sort it out. Jim Something Fishy Going On

01-21-2014, 01:30 PM	#228
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Before you go spending money Jim I plan on checking tonight to see if as far as the Intel HD 4600 I have the latest drivers installed or not. You and I both know how well that usually solves things, but its worth a try. I'll let you know later...... Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-21-2014, 06:19 PM	#229
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Well I went through Device Manager and tried to see if there were any later drivers for the 4600 and no luck Jim. So at this point I guess the ball is back in your court. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-21-2014, 07:55 PM	#230
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	It would be great if we could duplicate the problem on an inexpensive card I could just pop into my desktop computer. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-21-2014, 08:09 PM	#231
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	If I get chance I'll dig out my brother's old laptop with the 4500HD graphics, assuming I can even find it. He never updates anything so all the drivers will be bone stock. I'll see if an update changes anything and also check which DirectX he's got in there. Run you clever boy. And remember...

01-22-2014, 06:41 AM	#232
jimkraz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Troon, Scotland Posts: 125	But the problem is that the clams movement is ok, the corral movement is ok, the eel movement is ok, why are the feather dusters the only ones not moving ?, it sure is a strange one. Jim Something Fishy Going On

01-22-2014, 09:33 AM	#233
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	That's why I need to be able to duplicate the problem here. These things can only be solved by trial-and-error, replacing one command at a time and seeing the result. It usually takes hundreds of tries to get it right. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-22-2014, 11:26 AM	#234
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	I believe the latest Intel graphics driver is 15.28.20.64.3345 or .3347 (depending on chip) - do you all have that?

01-22-2014, 01:14 PM	#235
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	John, Yes I know I do because when I ran the device manager option and it didn't tell me an update I went manually and checked just to make sure, I never trust those things anyhow. And they did their job building this because that is the driver installed. And as said before, no joy; everything works EXCEPT the feather dusters when the laptop is running using the Intel chip for power conservation. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-22-2014, 01:31 PM	#236
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	Checked with Intel or with Microsoft? Quite different things. (Just asking.)

01-22-2014, 01:50 PM	#237
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Yeap, I agree. Which is why I checked manually on Intel's driver page after the first one said it was up to date. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-23-2014, 09:39 AM	#238
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	While it's possible that drivers are causing the problem, I really need to fix it on my end. Since the other objects are working properly, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to get the extra featherdusters to move, too. I just need to find a way of duplicating the problem, so that I can start the trial-and-error procedures. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-24-2014, 01:25 PM	#239
philosopher Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 86	Surface Simulator Jim, If you get lucky you might be able to duplicate the problem when using Microsoft's Surface Simulator program: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...rface.10).aspx You can run it using Microsoft's free version of Visual Studio - Visual Studio Express: http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/pr...xpress-vs.aspx Worth a try maybe? Sincerely, S. Justin Gengo "Out of chaos comes order." Nietzsche

01-24-2014, 11:02 PM	#240
Jean-Pierre Marro Registered Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toulon, France Posts: 47	Hello Jim, I come you ask if it would not be possible to put in the Left(Awkward) part(party) of the Aquarium (or there is a starfish) which(who) is emptier than the rest: 1-Une column of bubble? 2-Un crab also? 3-And especially your signature? What is normal seen the work which you make on your "Baby" if I may say so. While waiting for Thank you for all the work already carried out(already achieved). Good Weekend.