Marine Aquarium 3 Beta INSTALLER test - Page 12

Old Prop · 02-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by feldon32:

If you are comfortable with Photoshop, you can use my Logo Creation Guide here to make a PNG-24 file at 256 x 256 pixels.

Hey, feldon32, I just tried using your Logo Creation Guide to put a close-cut photo of my daughter-in-law onto the crystal in MA3 Beta 9a. Your method still works without a hitch (I used no Bevel on a photo, of course). I just named the png file I made "AltLogo.png" and placed it in \Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3 in place of the usual file by that name. Comes up on the L key whether the screensaver times in by itself or I start it with the Display Properties\Screen Saver panel. Thanks.

feldon34 · 02-10-2009, 02:22 PM

Glad it worked.

Dale · 02-10-2009, 03:54 PM

For the record: under Windows 7, dxdiag says it's running DirectX 11.

MA3 (Installer version) runs fine.

Dale · 02-10-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

The "PSereneScreen" business sounds vaguely familiar, but I could be wrong. I have no idea what could cause it.

A. It's there for a fresh install on Windows 7, and selecting PS.... in the screen saver list works the same as selecting S......

B. For Mark Knight - to get rid of the PSereneScreen entry in the Screen Saver list, it's only necessary to right-click the desktop icon, and then select "Install" in the drop-down list. Presto - PSereneScreen disappears from the list.

That's as good a clue as I can provide.

Jim Sachs · 02-10-2009, 06:14 PM

Mark did some more experiments, and found some vital information. Apparently this has been a major problem for installer-writers for some time. The double-listing and "P..." listing are caused by the Windows Registration not having been completed (not the SereneScreen installation, but the original Windows Registration). He found a way around the problem by changing the format of one of the commands. Now he's making the rounds of all the Installer Forums, dispensing his new wisdom.

Wizwad · 02-11-2009, 02:32 PM

Well done, Mark! I bet you feel like a kid showing off his new toy after Christmas!

So, having tracked down that problem, next up is what's holding up cold fusion as a practical energy source. Are you up for that?

Jav400 · 02-11-2009, 02:34 PM

lol, if he figures that one out then he can look for ET, and Jimmy Hoffa.

Wizwad · 02-11-2009, 02:48 PM

dwax · 02-13-2009, 09:56 AM

Any idea when the installer will be updated to the latest version, like 9b?

Jim Sachs · 02-13-2009, 10:24 AM

Prolific is making some changes to the license agreement wording.

I don't really see why anyone would be concerned about which version is in the installer, though. Just use the installer, then replace the MA3 file with the latest one.

dwax · 02-13-2009, 10:55 AM

just wonderd when we would see the changes with the clock in it.

Jim Sachs · 02-13-2009, 11:10 AM

Just download Beta9b.

Dabombguyman · 02-13-2009, 01:15 PM

When I set MA3 to do both screens, when it goes to my wide screen it cuts off the bottom of the image. Here's a screen shot. The red line is where the screens split and the black is the missing part. Isn't it supposed to adjust according to each screen?

ma3screencutoff.jpg

Dabombguyman · 02-13-2009, 02:09 PM

I found that if you set the screen settings so that the screen heights are equal to the shortest screen then it will work properly but the taller screen will display a lower quality.

cjmaddy · 02-13-2009, 02:22 PM

Both screens have to ideally be set to the same resolution. - See these threads...
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...55&#post108755
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...25&#post109825
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...26&#post109126

Do you have the option to set both your screens to the same vertical resolution? - If so try that.

Edit: I see in your second post, (posted whilst I was looking up those links), that you have now done that!

Jim Sachs · 02-13-2009, 03:12 PM

Regarding mulitmonitors: While there are still some items we need to address in out-of-the-ordinary setups, you'll generally get whatever you asked Windows to do in Display Properties:

Dabombguyman · 02-14-2009, 07:11 AM

Thanks for the help. So, it's not supposed to adjust the resolution for each screen individually? Well, I guess that would take up too much processing power unless you rendered it all in the higher quality first and then for the smaller screen just had it save the pre-rendered image as a smaller size. I know you don't have much time but it's a suggestion.

Jim Sachs · 02-14-2009, 10:37 AM

It does adjust the resolution individually. There are just some very tough problems regarding where in the overall scene each monitor gets its picture from, in order to not overlap the other screen or the outer edges.

bratboy · 02-14-2009, 12:49 PM

Just so I know I'm doing things right. Since I now have a key to get the latest version I:

1. Download latest beta.zip
2 Rename Ma3beta.scr to MarineAquarium3.scr
3. Overwrite the MarineAquarium3.scr in Syswow folder with the renamed beta.

Is that correct?

Also if I do it that way then am I correct in assuming at 14 days or sooner the new renamed version will expire and I will need to download another beta version?

rctneil · 02-14-2009, 12:53 PM

Yes, that will work!

02-10-2009, 02:22 PM	#222
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Glad it worked. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-10-2009, 06:14 PM	#225
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Mark did some more experiments, and found some vital information. Apparently this has been a major problem for installer-writers for some time. The double-listing and "P..." listing are caused by the Windows Registration not having been completed (not the SereneScreen installation, but the original Windows Registration). He found a way around the problem by changing the format of one of the commands. Now he's making the rounds of all the Installer Forums, dispensing his new wisdom. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-11-2009, 02:32 PM	#226
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Well done, Mark! I bet you feel like a kid showing off his new toy after Christmas! So, having tracked down that problem, next up is what's holding up cold fusion as a practical energy source. Are you up for that? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

02-11-2009, 02:34 PM	#227
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	lol, if he figures that one out then he can look for ET, and Jimmy Hoffa. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-11-2009, 02:48 PM	#228
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

02-10-2009, 01:50 PM	#221
Old Prop Registered Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 4	Originally posted by feldon32: If you are comfortable with Photoshop, you can use my Logo Creation Guide here to make a PNG-24 file at 256 x 256 pixels. Hey, feldon32, I just tried using your Logo Creation Guide to put a close-cut photo of my daughter-in-law onto the crystal in MA3 Beta 9a. Your method still works without a hitch (I used no Bevel on a photo, of course). I just named the png file I made "AltLogo.png" and placed it in \Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3 in place of the usual file by that name. Comes up on the L key whether the screensaver times in by itself or I start it with the Display Properties\Screen Saver panel. Thanks.

02-10-2009, 03:54 PM	#223
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	For the record: under Windows 7, dxdiag says it's running DirectX 11. MA3 (Installer version) runs fine.

02-10-2009, 04:25 PM	#224
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: The "PSereneScreen" business sounds vaguely familiar, but I could be wrong. I have no idea what could cause it. A. It's there for a fresh install on Windows 7, and selecting PS.... in the screen saver list works the same as selecting S...... B. For Mark Knight - to get rid of the PSereneScreen entry in the Screen Saver list, it's only necessary to right-click the desktop icon, and then select "Install" in the drop-down list. Presto - PSereneScreen disappears from the list. That's as good a clue as I can provide.

02-13-2009, 09:56 AM	#229
dwax Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 83	Any idea when the installer will be updated to the latest version, like 9b? By dustywax at 2011-12-13

02-13-2009, 10:24 AM	#230
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Prolific is making some changes to the license agreement wording. I don't really see why anyone would be concerned about which version is in the installer, though. Just use the installer, then replace the MA3 file with the latest one. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-13-2009, 10:55 AM	#231
dwax Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 83	just wonderd when we would see the changes with the clock in it. By dustywax at 2011-12-13

02-13-2009, 11:10 AM	#232
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Just download Beta9b. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-13-2009, 01:15 PM	#233
Dabombguyman Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	When I set MA3 to do both screens, when it goes to my wide screen it cuts off the bottom of the image. Here's a screen shot. The red line is where the screens split and the black is the missing part. Isn't it supposed to adjust according to each screen? ma3screencutoff.jpg Hope I can help. somehow . . .

02-13-2009, 02:09 PM	#234
Dabombguyman Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	I found that if you set the screen settings so that the screen heights are equal to the shortest screen then it will work properly but the taller screen will display a lower quality. Hope I can help. somehow . . .

02-13-2009, 02:22 PM	#235
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Both screens have to ideally be set to the same resolution. - See these threads... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...55&#post108755 https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...25&#post109825 https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...26&#post109126 Do you have the option to set both your screens to the same vertical resolution? - If so try that. Edit: I see in your second post, (posted whilst I was looking up those links), that you have now done that!

02-14-2009, 07:11 AM	#237
Dabombguyman Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	Thanks for the help. So, it's not supposed to adjust the resolution for each screen individually? Well, I guess that would take up too much processing power unless you rendered it all in the higher quality first and then for the smaller screen just had it save the pre-rendered image as a smaller size. I know you don't have much time but it's a suggestion. Hope I can help. somehow . . .

02-14-2009, 10:37 AM	#238
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	It does adjust the resolution individually. There are just some very tough problems regarding where in the overall scene each monitor gets its picture from, in order to not overlap the other screen or the outer edges. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-14-2009, 12:49 PM	#239
bratboy Here Fishy Fishy! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 75	Just so I know I'm doing things right. Since I now have a key to get the latest version I: 1. Download latest beta.zip 2 Rename Ma3beta.scr to MarineAquarium3.scr 3. Overwrite the MarineAquarium3.scr in Syswow folder with the renamed beta. Is that correct? Also if I do it that way then am I correct in assuming at 14 days or sooner the new renamed version will expire and I will need to download another beta version?

02-14-2009, 12:53 PM	#240
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Yes, that will work!