Jim, where do we go from here! (Redux) - Page 13

Jav400 · 03-27-2011, 09:40 AM

I guess I never thought of that as being the problem that would crop up. After all the years of the fish not being close to the bottom, I figured that would be your problem more than something like this.

Eels don't swim per se, like a fish. Of course the size of an aquarium causes some of this problem, but when Harvey moved it was more like a snake in some ways. He pushed himself off of the bottom to get forward movement going and then sort of "undulated" to keep that movement going. But it was of course always for short distances, and then he sank back to the bottom. When he came up to take food from me part of him was always in contact with the bottom except for short bursts, then when he got larger and longer he usually just raised himself up to stick his head near the surface to grab food.

As he comes out of the cave slightly, I figured the problem was going to be the overall movement if he isn't on the bottom. Just what is he supposed to be "hanging on to"?

Maybe a short trip to your local aquarium store to watch one would help.............

Jim Sachs · 03-27-2011, 11:01 AM

Since the majority of the body is hidden in the cave, the problem of what he is hanging on to doesn't really arise. You just assume his belly is on the floor somewhere back there. But the fact that he's so close to the ground does bring up the question of shadows, and I plan to handle that the same way I do for the clams, with a transparent moveable mask.

bigbass22 · 03-28-2011, 01:05 PM

Hi Jim
So happy to hear that Harvey will soon make his appearance in the aquarium. Last year I was snorkelling in Cuba and was warned not to be too agressive around Morays (saw 2 of them) Can I assume that Harvey will be on a perpetual diet or be perhaps be classified as a Vegan Moray?
Thanks
Jim Harris

Jim Sachs · 03-28-2011, 02:31 PM

Michael says that this type plays well with others, and is suitable for aquarium use (it has no teeth).

rctneil · 03-28-2011, 02:33 PM

The Eel looks fantastic.

I too would like to add a "Are we nearly there yet?" to this thread! :-)

Anyway, great work and can't wait to adopt him into my tank!

Neil

rctneil · 04-02-2011, 07:08 AM

Any updates on Harvey, Jim?

Jim Sachs · 04-02-2011, 10:35 AM

Working...

kona001 · 04-03-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Got the eel in the tank and swaying slightly. Still have to do the real animation, but looks pretty good so far.

This is great news

I can't wait.

rctneil · 04-07-2011, 07:45 AM

Absolutely can't wait for a beta version with Harvey!

Jim Sachs · 04-07-2011, 09:27 AM

The "breathing" animation is looking pretty good, but I'm still having a hard time with the bending of the neck.

ESHIREY · 04-07-2011, 10:00 AM

Just take your hand and twist..................... hahahahaha

Bob · 04-07-2011, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by ESHIREY:

Just take your hand and twist..................... hahahahaha

But then Jim will have to name him Igor instead of Harvey.

ESHIREY · 04-07-2011, 10:28 AM

Oooops. We don't want that.

streetwolf · 04-07-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Bob:

But then Jim will have to name him Igor instead of Harvey.

That's pronounced Eye-gor.

Nicki · 04-07-2011, 02:49 PM

Blucher.

streetwolf · 04-07-2011, 02:57 PM

Frau Blucher whinny, neigh.

Wizwad · 04-07-2011, 03:12 PM

You know you lot are crazy, right?

streetwolf · 04-07-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Wizwad:

You know you lot are crazy, right?

We are going Stir Crazy waiting for Harvey.

ESHIREY · 04-07-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Wizwad:

You know you lot are crazy, right?

Yes we are. That's what makes us a great Family.

patscarr · 04-16-2011, 12:18 PM

What's the latest on Harvey, Jim?

03-27-2011, 09:40 AM	#241
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	I guess I never thought of that as being the problem that would crop up. After all the years of the fish not being close to the bottom, I figured that would be your problem more than something like this. Eels don't swim per se, like a fish. Of course the size of an aquarium causes some of this problem, but when Harvey moved it was more like a snake in some ways. He pushed himself off of the bottom to get forward movement going and then sort of "undulated" to keep that movement going. But it was of course always for short distances, and then he sank back to the bottom. When he came up to take food from me part of him was always in contact with the bottom except for short bursts, then when he got larger and longer he usually just raised himself up to stick his head near the surface to grab food. As he comes out of the cave slightly, I figured the problem was going to be the overall movement if he isn't on the bottom. Just what is he supposed to be "hanging on to"? Maybe a short trip to your local aquarium store to watch one would help............. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-27-2011, 11:01 AM	#242
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Since the majority of the body is hidden in the cave, the problem of what he is hanging on to doesn't really arise. You just assume his belly is on the floor somewhere back there. But the fact that he's so close to the ground does bring up the question of shadows, and I plan to handle that the same way I do for the clams, with a transparent moveable mask. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-28-2011, 02:31 PM	#244
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Michael says that this type plays well with others, and is suitable for aquarium use (it has no teeth). Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-02-2011, 10:35 AM	#247
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Working... Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-03-2011, 10:15 PM	#248
kona001 New Husband and new Aquarium Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 318	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Got the eel in the tank and swaying slightly. Still have to do the real animation, but looks pretty good so far. This is great news I can't wait. "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail"-W2

03-28-2011, 01:05 PM	#243
bigbass22 Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6	Hi Jim So happy to hear that Harvey will soon make his appearance in the aquarium. Last year I was snorkelling in Cuba and was warned not to be too agressive around Morays (saw 2 of them) Can I assume that Harvey will be on a perpetual diet or be perhaps be classified as a Vegan Moray? Thanks Jim Harris

03-28-2011, 02:33 PM	#245
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	The Eel looks fantastic. I too would like to add a "Are we nearly there yet?" to this thread! :-) Anyway, great work and can't wait to adopt him into my tank! Neil

04-02-2011, 07:08 AM	#246
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Any updates on Harvey, Jim?

04-07-2011, 07:45 AM	#249
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Absolutely can't wait for a beta version with Harvey!

04-07-2011, 09:27 AM	#250
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The "breathing" animation is looking pretty good, but I'm still having a hard time with the bending of the neck. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-07-2011, 10:00 AM	#251
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Just take your hand and twist..................... hahahahaha Thank you for taking the time to read this.

04-07-2011, 10:18 AM	#252
Bob Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 103	Originally posted by ESHIREY: Just take your hand and twist..................... hahahahaha But then Jim will have to name him Igor instead of Harvey.

04-07-2011, 10:28 AM	#253
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Oooops. We don't want that. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

04-07-2011, 01:07 PM	#254
streetwolf Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Originally posted by Bob: But then Jim will have to name him Igor instead of Harvey. That's pronounced Eye-gor.

04-07-2011, 02:49 PM	#255
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	Blucher. Run you clever boy. And remember...

04-07-2011, 02:57 PM	#256
streetwolf Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Frau Blucher whinny, neigh.

04-07-2011, 03:12 PM	#257
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	You know you lot are crazy, right? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

04-07-2011, 03:52 PM	#258
streetwolf Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Originally posted by Wizwad: You know you lot are crazy, right? We are going Stir Crazy waiting for Harvey.

04-07-2011, 06:55 PM	#259
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Originally posted by Wizwad: You know you lot are crazy, right? Yes we are. That's what makes us a great Family. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

04-16-2011, 12:18 PM	#260
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	What's the latest on Harvey, Jim? Patrick