Marine Aquarium 3 Beta INSTALLER test - Page 18

JamesMeacham2005 · 05-02-2009, 02:29 AM

Jim,

Was wondering how long it takes Prolific to update their version? I think you said it's been about a week since this updated was available.

cjmaddy · 05-02-2009, 02:40 AM

You don't need to wait for Prolific, the very latest has ALWAYS been available, - for weeks!!! - From... http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

JamesMeacham2005 · 05-02-2009, 04:46 AM

I was waiting for prolific because I want to stablized version.

cjmaddy · 05-02-2009, 06:31 AM

As far as I understand, at the time of being passed over to Prolific for download from SereneScreen, the two versions are virtually identical.

From SereneScreen you will get the addition of an installer, the statistics default to off, and it never expires. - But it's rarely the latest!

With the Betas from Fish-Byte, the statistics default to on, and they expire every few weeks. - BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE VERY LATEST!

(..... plus you can 'install' it yourself if you wish.)

I cannot think of a good reason NOT to use Jim's very latest version from... http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

feldon34 · 05-03-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by JamesMeacham2005:

I was waiting for prolific because I want to stablized version.

A new version shows up here on the forum. If there are any immediate problems, they are usually fixed with another 1-2 updates over the next few days. Then we sit at that version for several weeks. Finally, that version gets packaged with the installer and in another 1-2 weeks that same version appears at SereneScreen.com, just wrapped in an installer.

So just saying, if you really want to wait a month to use each version, that's fine, but if you keep checking back here, it becomes pretty clear after just a few days whether the version here at the forum is stable or not.

So far, in 9 years, not one version of SereneScreen Aquarium has resulted in data loss.

Dale · 05-08-2009, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Edgar finished his part a week ago. Just waiting for Prolific to add the installer.

How's that coming along?

Jim Sachs · 05-09-2009, 11:25 PM

I don't know if the v10a version is up on Serenescreen or not. I'm on my iPhone so I can't download right now.

Dale · 05-10-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I don't know if the v10a version is up on Serenescreen or not. I'm on my iPhone so I can't download right now.

When I checked - yesterday - by downloading it and comparing file sizes - it was still the same size as before. [Not that it helps, but the "file version" was 0.0.0.0]

Please pardon the blunt language:

That's an absolutely ridiculous way for YOU to have to find out if the production code version has changed.

It's an absolutely ridiculous way for those who participate in this forum, to find out if the production code version has changed.

These are not just "bug fix" releases - they are major "function" additions.

And, if you want the excellent results of your long hours of artistry, blood, sweat, and tears to be enjoyed by the general public who already purchased the product..........

jimkraz · 05-10-2009, 09:33 AM

Could a "Check For Updates" not be added to the "Paid" for version, that would automatically check for latest version and download it as does DreamAquarium. Jim

JamesMeacham2005 · 05-11-2009, 03:02 AM

Again I think Prolific needs to get on the ball and post the update. As I'm not willing to take that chance with my computer on the unstable version. As far a buisness wise I would think it would make since to post updates as soon as it is safe too.

Wizwad · 05-11-2009, 05:43 AM

The 'current' beta is not unstable. It's just expired.

Other than that, there are no problems with it.

feldon34 · 05-11-2009, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by dwax:

Any chance of getting Beta 10a uploaded to Serenescreen.com?

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Edgar is working on it.

Really?

21 days and counting...

Dale · 05-11-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Wizwad:

The 'current' beta is not unstable. It's just expired.

Other than that, there are no problems with it.

...except that it says "MA3 BetaText9 has expired" when it's really 10a that expired".

cjmaddy · 05-11-2009, 09:34 AM

henemly · 05-11-2009, 10:34 AM

Today mine says "Beta Test 9 has expired"

shade2074 · 05-11-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by jimkraz:

Could a "Check For Updates" not be added to the "Paid" for version, that would automatically check for latest version and download it as does DreamAquarium. Jim

I came to look for a new update because like others I also got the message that my version (9a

) 10 has expired. I like this idea that Jimkraz has here (quoted above), but I was thinking why make it overly complex - why not just add the button for everyone - but just keep the registration information intact with each new download (those that have registered won't need to put in the registration again when the new copy is downloaded, those that haven't registered will still need to put testfish in).

Either way though, not a bad idea from a consumer stand point - I am not a programmer though, so not sure how difficult that would be to add to the settings GUI.

Jim Sachs · 05-11-2009, 04:40 PM

The latest non-expiring MA3 Beta10a with installer is at: http://www.fish-byte.com/MarineAquarium3.exe

shade2074 · 05-11-2009, 05:07 PM

Thank you for the update!

jdtoomb · 05-11-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by shade2074:

Thank you for the update!

Yes. Thank You!

DWillens · 05-11-2009, 09:25 PM

ditto!

05-02-2009, 02:29 AM	#341
JamesMeacham2005 Registered Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17	BETA 10 upload Jim, Was wondering how long it takes Prolific to update their version? I think you said it's been about a week since this updated was available.

05-02-2009, 04:46 AM	#343
JamesMeacham2005 Registered Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17	bet10 I was waiting for prolific because I want to stablized version.

05-03-2009, 07:53 PM	#345
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by JamesMeacham2005: I was waiting for prolific because I want to stablized version. A new version shows up here on the forum. If there are any immediate problems, they are usually fixed with another 1-2 updates over the next few days. Then we sit at that version for several weeks. Finally, that version gets packaged with the installer and in another 1-2 weeks that same version appears at SereneScreen.com, just wrapped in an installer. So just saying, if you really want to wait a month to use each version, that's fine, but if you keep checking back here, it becomes pretty clear after just a few days whether the version here at the forum is stable or not. So far, in 9 years, not one version of SereneScreen Aquarium has resulted in data loss. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-09-2009, 11:25 PM	#347
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	I don't know if the v10a version is up on Serenescreen or not. I'm on my iPhone so I can't download right now. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-10-2009, 09:33 AM	#349
jimkraz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Troon, Scotland Posts: 125	Could a "Check For Updates" not be added to the "Paid" for version, that would automatically check for latest version and download it as does DreamAquarium. Jim Something Fishy Going On

05-02-2009, 02:40 AM	#342
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	You don't need to wait for Prolific, the very latest has ALWAYS been available, - for weeks!!! - From... http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

05-02-2009, 06:31 AM	#344
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	As far as I understand, at the time of being passed over to Prolific for download from SereneScreen, the two versions are virtually identical. From SereneScreen you will get the addition of an installer, the statistics default to off, and it never expires. - But it's rarely the latest! With the Betas from Fish-Byte, the statistics default to on, and they expire every few weeks. - BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE VERY LATEST! (..... plus you can 'install' it yourself if you wish.) I cannot think of a good reason NOT to use Jim's very latest version from... http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

05-08-2009, 11:18 AM	#346
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Edgar finished his part a week ago. Just waiting for Prolific to add the installer. How's that coming along?

05-10-2009, 08:33 AM	#348
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I don't know if the v10a version is up on Serenescreen or not. I'm on my iPhone so I can't download right now. When I checked - yesterday - by downloading it and comparing file sizes - it was still the same size as before. [Not that it helps, but the "file version" was 0.0.0.0] Please pardon the blunt language: That's an absolutely ridiculous way for YOU to have to find out if the production code version has changed. It's an absolutely ridiculous way for those who participate in this forum, to find out if the production code version has changed. These are not just "bug fix" releases - they are major "function" additions. And, if you want the excellent results of your long hours of artistry, blood, sweat, and tears to be enjoyed by the general public who already purchased the product..........

05-11-2009, 03:02 AM	#350
JamesMeacham2005 Registered Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17	prolific update Again I think Prolific needs to get on the ball and post the update. As I'm not willing to take that chance with my computer on the unstable version. As far a buisness wise I would think it would make since to post updates as soon as it is safe too.

05-11-2009, 05:43 AM	#351
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	The 'current' beta is not unstable. It's just expired. Other than that, there are no problems with it. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

05-11-2009, 08:34 AM	#352
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by dwax: Any chance of getting Beta 10a uploaded to Serenescreen.com? Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Edgar is working on it. Really? 21 days and counting... "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-11-2009, 08:44 AM	#353
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Wizwad: The 'current' beta is not unstable. It's just expired. Other than that, there are no problems with it. ...except that it says "MA3 BetaText9 has expired" when it's really 10a that expired".

05-11-2009, 09:34 AM	#354
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854

05-11-2009, 10:34 AM	#355
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Today mine says "Beta Test 9 has expired"

05-11-2009, 12:18 PM	#356
shade2074 Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US - NH Posts: 8	Originally posted by jimkraz: Could a "Check For Updates" not be added to the "Paid" for version, that would automatically check for latest version and download it as does DreamAquarium. Jim I came to look for a new update because like others I also got the message that my version (9a ) 10 has expired. I like this idea that Jimkraz has here (quoted above), but I was thinking why make it overly complex - why not just add the button for everyone - but just keep the registration information intact with each new download (those that have registered won't need to put in the registration again when the new copy is downloaded, those that haven't registered will still need to put testfish in). Either way though, not a bad idea from a consumer stand point - I am not a programmer though, so not sure how difficult that would be to add to the settings GUI. }<)));>

05-11-2009, 04:40 PM	#357
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	The latest non-expiring MA3 Beta10a with installer is at: http://www.fish-byte.com/MarineAquarium3.exe Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-11-2009, 05:07 PM	#358
shade2074 Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US - NH Posts: 8	Thank you for the update! }<)));>

05-11-2009, 05:43 PM	#359
jdtoomb Registered Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	Originally posted by shade2074: Thank you for the update! Yes. Thank You!

05-11-2009, 09:25 PM	#360
DWillens Registered Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	ditto!