Sharks: Terrors of the Deep Wishlist - Page 2

James · 02-24-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Jav400
What about the "frenzy" effect? A shark can smell 1 drop of blood in the water from over a mile away. If one shark feeds, will this cause the others to go into a feeding frenzy? I would think it would need too if you are wanting to keep the realistic effect. At the very least, I would think that the others would show much accelerated swimming and more erratic patterns for a short while.

I really like your idea Michael!! This would add more realism. I think attack can be implemented but the blood can be avoided like Schnaaps pointed out

Schnaaps · 02-24-2004, 05:15 PM

Feeding frenzys are caused by an over abundance of food or perceived over abundance of food in a confined area, and not the result of one small drop of blood. It would be a cool effect/feature to attempt, however, I fear the implecations of collision and performance. The ability to do this well would be an issue. If we did do something along the lines of feeding, I picture a shark swimming along fast, and quick turn and lunge towards its prey, and swimming off into the distance with perhaps a small trail of organic material.

Have I made it clear this is no guarentee or promise????

GreenHsiF · 02-24-2004, 06:49 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Schnaaps
[b]GreenHsiF: where did you get that great image of the milk shark?
On "Common Name" type the word shark and a list of different sharks will be on there. http://www.fishbase.org/search.cfm

Schnaaps · 02-24-2004, 07:35 PM

Great site, thank you.

Tiny Turtle · 02-25-2004, 02:04 AM

Feeding frenzy, – would be cool, but chasing other fish (by the proper species) would be so much cooler. I think throwing a seal pup in there and have a couple of Great Whites tear it to pieces would somewhat alter the customer base a bit. Then again, this is "Terror of the deep" (albeit not really that deep, eh?)

/Tiny Terror

drfish · 02-25-2004, 05:19 AM

That site has been pointed out before...

Manymosi · 02-25-2004, 05:21 AM

How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS !

patscarr · 02-25-2004, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Manymosi
How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS !

Now THAT would be cool!

James · 02-25-2004, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by Manymosi
How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS !

Sounds good, but maybe there will be some copyright issues need to resolve before use the same music.

Marian Nichols · 02-25-2004, 05:54 AM

While the theme from Jaws plays in the background, the Great White swims menacingly toward the screen, at the last possible second, suddenly his massive jaws spring wide, lips pulling back from the malevolence teeth and snaps shut with a violent thud, at a full close up inside that huge orifice.
I bet that would scare the wits out of anyone seeing it for the first time, especially.

Tiny Turtle · 02-25-2004, 07:01 AM

"Some copyright issues" is an understatemet worthy of an Englishman.

Personally I wouldn't use it.

patscarr · 02-25-2004, 07:33 AM

The theme from Jaws doesn't have to come built into the screensaver. The screensaver would just need to contain an option to play your own music (mp3, wav, etc...) file.

drfish · 02-25-2004, 08:28 AM

Bingo! Great idea!

Marian Nichols · 02-25-2004, 10:10 AM

Ditto. Y'all are really coming up with some great ideas.

drfish · 02-25-2004, 10:25 AM

I really only care for the idea specifically as a solution to getting the Jaws music to play when it starts... I can always run winamp in the background if I want music...

Schnaaps · 02-25-2004, 02:03 PM

Tiny: I love the idea of adding more marine life to the product as time goes by. Many Fans have made wonderful suggestions.

If we were do add feeding, IMO I would only really have the sharks feed on fish. If a seal pup were to be included, I don't think it would be even on the screen at the same time as a shark. Seals in life tend to avoid sharks. or else.... Bottom line, if we ever attempted feeding behaviour it would be done delicately. But for version 1.0 there are more imporant things.

I would really like to see behaviours such as chasing fish, etc... and hopefully we can address this idea in later versions.

JAWS Music, yeup, odds are that will never happen. I rule nothing out, but yeup, that one probably never going to see the light of day. Do you really want the ability to play music when it starts up? I tend to fire up winamp and just play music while I am working, and have the sounds turn off in SA/MA/GF etc... becuase I want to hear my music and not the tank bubbling. But that is just me perhaps....

James · 02-25-2004, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by patscarr
The theme from Jaws doesn't have to come built into the screensaver. The screensaver would just need to contain an option to play your own music (mp3, wav, etc...) file.

Just like Aqua Real's build in music function, you can build a playlist with over 10 types of supported audio files, and you can also do random or repeat on selected music or the whole list.

This way, you can go find JAWS music on Internet then put it into the SS.

Tiny Turtle · 02-26-2004, 01:41 AM

Jim,nntJbaotsn,
I'm not sure if I misunderstood you. I don't think sharks feeding on a seal would be the right thing to model. I was just trying to point out that the different fish have different feeding habits and just because some book has mentioned sharks going into a feeding frenzy on a whale carcass, that all sharks do this.

/TT

Schnaaps · 02-26-2004, 02:36 AM

Tiny,
I agree. I really want to get in separate behaviours.

Marian Nichols · 02-26-2004, 06:14 AM

How about a whale shark? You think Great White are big you should see one of these timid but huge fish!

02-24-2004, 05:06 PM	#21
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by Jav400 What about the "frenzy" effect? A shark can smell 1 drop of blood in the water from over a mile away. If one shark feeds, will this cause the others to go into a feeding frenzy? I would think it would need too if you are wanting to keep the realistic effect. At the very least, I would think that the others would show much accelerated swimming and more erratic patterns for a short while. I really like your idea Michael!! This would add more realism. I think attack can be implemented but the blood can be avoided like Schnaaps pointed out James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

02-24-2004, 05:15 PM	#22
Schnaaps prolificus penguinus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Prolific Posts: 204	Feeding frenzys are caused by an over abundance of food or perceived over abundance of food in a confined area, and not the result of one small drop of blood. It would be a cool effect/feature to attempt, however, I fear the implecations of collision and performance. The ability to do this well would be an issue. If we did do something along the lines of feeding, I picture a shark swimming along fast, and quick turn and lunge towards its prey, and swimming off into the distance with perhaps a small trail of organic material. Have I made it clear this is no guarentee or promise???? "Jim, no not THAT Jim but another of the same name" JamesRathbun.com

02-24-2004, 07:35 PM	#24
Schnaaps prolificus penguinus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Prolific Posts: 204	Great site, thank you. "Jim, no not THAT Jim but another of the same name" JamesRathbun.com

02-25-2004, 02:04 AM	#25
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Feeding frenzy, – would be cool, but chasing other fish (by the proper species) would be so much cooler. I think throwing a seal pup in there and have a couple of Great Whites tear it to pieces would somewhat alter the customer base a bit. Then again, this is "Terror of the deep" (albeit not really that deep, eh?) /Tiny Terror Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

02-25-2004, 05:19 AM	#26
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	That site has been pointed out before... I don't watch commercials.

02-24-2004, 06:49 PM	#23
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	[quote]Originally posted by Schnaaps [b]GreenHsiF: where did you get that great image of the milk shark? On "Common Name" type the word shark and a list of different sharks will be on there. http://www.fishbase.org/search.cfm

02-25-2004, 05:21 AM	#27
Manymosi Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 65	How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS !

02-25-2004, 05:36 AM	#28
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Originally posted by Manymosi How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS ! Now THAT would be cool! Patrick

02-25-2004, 05:37 AM	#29
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by Manymosi How about an option to play the music from the movie JAWS ! Sounds good, but maybe there will be some copyright issues need to resolve before use the same music. James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

02-25-2004, 05:54 AM	#30
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	While the theme from Jaws plays in the background, the Great White swims menacingly toward the screen, at the last possible second, suddenly his massive jaws spring wide, lips pulling back from the malevolence teeth and snaps shut with a violent thud, at a full close up inside that huge orifice. I bet that would scare the wits out of anyone seeing it for the first time, especially.

02-25-2004, 07:01 AM	#31
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	"Some copyright issues" is an understatemet worthy of an Englishman. Personally I wouldn't use it. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

02-25-2004, 07:33 AM	#32
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	The theme from Jaws doesn't have to come built into the screensaver. The screensaver would just need to contain an option to play your own music (mp3, wav, etc...) file. Patrick

02-25-2004, 08:28 AM	#33
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Bingo! Great idea! I don't watch commercials.

02-25-2004, 10:10 AM	#34
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	Ditto. Y'all are really coming up with some great ideas.

02-25-2004, 10:25 AM	#35
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	I really only care for the idea specifically as a solution to getting the Jaws music to play when it starts... I can always run winamp in the background if I want music... I don't watch commercials.

02-25-2004, 02:03 PM	#36
Schnaaps prolificus penguinus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Prolific Posts: 204	Tiny: I love the idea of adding more marine life to the product as time goes by. Many Fans have made wonderful suggestions. If we were do add feeding, IMO I would only really have the sharks feed on fish. If a seal pup were to be included, I don't think it would be even on the screen at the same time as a shark. Seals in life tend to avoid sharks. or else.... Bottom line, if we ever attempted feeding behaviour it would be done delicately. But for version 1.0 there are more imporant things. I would really like to see behaviours such as chasing fish, etc... and hopefully we can address this idea in later versions. JAWS Music, yeup, odds are that will never happen. I rule nothing out, but yeup, that one probably never going to see the light of day. Do you really want the ability to play music when it starts up? I tend to fire up winamp and just play music while I am working, and have the sounds turn off in SA/MA/GF etc... becuase I want to hear my music and not the tank bubbling. But that is just me perhaps.... "Jim, no not THAT Jim but another of the same name" JamesRathbun.com

02-25-2004, 03:26 PM	#37
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by patscarr The theme from Jaws doesn't have to come built into the screensaver. The screensaver would just need to contain an option to play your own music (mp3, wav, etc...) file. Just like Aqua Real's build in music function, you can build a playlist with over 10 types of supported audio files, and you can also do random or repeat on selected music or the whole list. This way, you can go find JAWS music on Internet then put it into the SS. James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

02-26-2004, 01:41 AM	#38
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Jim,nntJbaotsn, I'm not sure if I misunderstood you. I don't think sharks feeding on a seal would be the right thing to model. I was just trying to point out that the different fish have different feeding habits and just because some book has mentioned sharks going into a feeding frenzy on a whale carcass, that all sharks do this. /TT Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

02-26-2004, 02:36 AM	#39
Schnaaps prolificus penguinus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Prolific Posts: 204	Tiny, I agree. I really want to get in separate behaviours. "Jim, no not THAT Jim but another of the same name" JamesRathbun.com

02-26-2004, 06:14 AM	#40
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	How about a whale shark? You think Great White are big you should see one of these timid but huge fish!