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That "used" to be a problem for some.. but I have not had it happen for a long time and can not duplicate it at this time.
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#22 |
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![]() For m and o, hitting the 'space' bar when MA is full screen has caused the simulation to pause. Only by hitting 'F' and going into Windowed mode brings the 'space' bar back to it's 'Settings' functionality. Is that just me?
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#23 |
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Wiz - I don't recall the particulars of your setup. Is it something weird, like dual screens, where the settings box might be trying to appear on a screen that's not on?
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#24 |
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Even on "...weird dual screens",
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#25 |
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Hmmm. Curious.
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#26 |
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I've just been stuck with Win7 64 bit. Bought a new system on Wednesday after throwing in the towel with all my obsolete kit. I'll provide up-to-date specs when I get home tonight, but it's running an nVidia GT330 graphics card which is doing a good job with MA.
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I'm running Win7 64bit on a desktop and a notebook, and can't replicate it on either.
I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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Awful quiet in this thread.
Does this mean 11o is pretty much OK? Edit to add - other than a change in default frame rate to 60. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#29 |
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Well, if there's nothing else, I'll go ahead and post 11p, which only contains the change of the default fps to 60, and the 10-second timer for wireframe mode.
Since no one has reported any crashes, I guess I'm OK keeping the current scheme for setting the FPS Limit. I'm using the High Resolution Timer, and was a little worried that some systems might not have one. The literature is pretty old, and mentioned that an alternate timing method should be resorted to if the HRT was absent, but it appears that all systems have it nowadays.
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It would be nice if there was some way of knowing how many folks are downloading these betas and comparing it to the number of folks actually reporting on them.
Like you said, if "no one has reported any crashes", then at some point you have to accept that the program is sound. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#31 |
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v11p is up. http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip
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#32 |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Right. Here we go:
System: Acer Aspire M5811 Intel Core i5 650 4 Core ~ 3.2GHz Graphics GeForce GT330 w. 1GB VRAM RAM: 4GB Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit DirectX 11 Resolution: 1280 x 1024 32 bit Graphics Driver Version: 8.17.11.9745 And after activating the screensaver, it still does what I described. But only in Full Screen - as soon as I put it in Windowed mode the settings screen comes in front and centre. Looks like you were right about the settings being behind the main saver when Full Screen Jim. Actions: Double click MA icon on desktop. Full screen display appears. Press 'Space'. Get frustrated as saver has paused but no settings are visible. Hit 'Space' again to get things moving. Hit 'F' to window and then 'Space' to proceed successfully with desired change through settings panel. After OKing change, hit 'F' again to full screen. Done. I'll go ahead and download p to see what happens with that.
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So, when you hit "space" the first time, and MA3 pauses,
can you "Alt-Tab" and get to the Settings panel? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#34 |
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For a fraction of a second - then MA quits on me all together.
And - GAH - happens with p, too. I imagine it's the way this OS is installed which is causing the problem, somehow.
Mark
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Could be an interaction with some other program running in background, too.
I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#36 |
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I shut down everything else other than IE. No change. I'll shut down OE too...
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Just grasping, Wizwad.
Assuming you have all the appropriate current drivers, too. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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Curious, too -
what are the screen sizes when you do Win/Full Screen modes? (Shows in Statistics display) I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#39 |
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1280x1024x32 in full screen
1071x507 in windowed mode Effect still occurs even with everything else closed. ![]()
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Well, Alt-Tab appears to be one of the key combinations that will shut down MA3 when Full Screen. So, much for that.
Have you done "CTRL-R" to reset everything? I'm really wondering if this is a problem with your fairly new video card and it's drivers. Are they WHQL certified? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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