Beta "testing" observation - Page 2

Dale · 05-27-2010, 01:50 PM

Ah!

Now it's named Gamespot, and the deal is video games.

JohnWho · 06-14-2010, 05:17 PM

I'm suspecting that we are very close to a "final" beta prior to 3.1, if not already there.

Don't know if we've made life easier for Jim, but I believed we've helped him somewhat.

Well, many of you have.

Don't know whether I fall in the "Good Guys" column or the PIA column in his ledger.

Wizwad · 06-14-2010, 06:06 PM

With all your work on the User Guide?

Totally a Good Pain - no question!

JohnWho · 06-14-2010, 06:08 PM

Well, thanks for that, Wizwad.

But, no one has seen what I've done so the jury is still out.

Dale · 06-14-2010, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by JohnWho:

Well, thanks for that, Wizwad.

But, no one has seen what I've done so the jury is still out.

You've accomplished more than anyone else ever has, with respect to documentation.

Wizwad · 06-14-2010, 06:13 PM

Or so we assume.

JohnWho · 06-14-2010, 06:23 PM

Well, my unwritten agreement with Jim is that only he will get my draft, so only he and I will know exactly how much of what I did makes it through the editing gauntlet.

Having said that, I will point out that the original or current readme is 13k on my PC, while what I've done is now at 37k although what I send to Jim will probably be about 35k since some of it currently is notes to myself regarding things I need to check before I send it.

Even so, Jim may wield a big "rejected" stamp, so we'll see what we shall see. (or read what we shall read, whatever.)

Wizwad · 06-15-2010, 05:36 AM

What was the outcome on the suggestion to create a fully indexed, hyperlinked document? Or was there one? I was just wondering due to other comments about the 'standard Windows Help' option, and that it would have to come purely from documents we (or rather, you) put together containing such 'standard help'.

JohnWho · 06-15-2010, 05:51 AM

I can't respond to that, Wizwad.

I'm only helping with an updated readme.txt.

Don't know anything about a planned (or unplanned, for that matter) "help" or documentation beyond the readme.

The Nova folks did create a "User's Guide" in PDF format, though. It will need to be revised somewhat for 3.1.

Jim Sachs · 06-15-2010, 09:53 AM

I assume that the User Guide will be available on the SereneScreen website, and maybe visible sometime during the Installation process. I have nothing to do with the Installer, and don't recall ever having seen the Installer version, but some have mentioned that is contains a readme file. I won't be building the file into the actual program, as the translations could take months.

Dale · 06-15-2010, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I assume that the User Guide will be available on the SereneScreen website, and maybe visible sometime during the Installation process. I have nothing to do with the Installer, and don't recall ever having seen the Installer version, but some have mentioned that is contains a readme file. I won't be building the file into the actual program, as the translations could take months.

OK. But this forum did test the Installer version of 3.0

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

We are getting very close to releasing Marine Aquarium 3 to the public.

We have produced an Installer for Marine Aquarium 3 Beta 8k which we would like everyone to take a look at and test out.
.

Jim Sachs · 06-15-2010, 10:42 AM

Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th.

JohnWho · 06-15-2010, 03:00 PM

@ Jim -

I'll be sending you what I've done with the readme.txt file later tonight after I take a bit of time and make sure it matches up with 11p which appears is the final beta.

I'm assuming the only visible change you made from 11p to 3.1 is those few "-" and "+" signs?

Does Edgar need the new readme.txt file to do all this?

JohnWho · 06-15-2010, 06:31 PM

@ Jim -

Draft "readme.txt" for MA3.1 is on it's way.

Jim Sachs · 06-15-2010, 07:29 PM

Got it, thanks.

Dale · 07-01-2010, 01:58 PM

June 15th

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th.

Presumably, some delay.

JohnWho · 07-01-2010, 02:12 PM

It is a free upgrade, Dale.

No money, no hurry.

Ain't that the way?

Although, as we've said in the past - removing the "beta" designation could make some difference.

We'll see.

Jim Sachs · 07-01-2010, 10:10 PM

Edgar is on vacation.

JohnWho · 07-02-2010, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Dale:

June 15th

Presumably, some delay.

Or, an extended vacation.

Dale · 07-02-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th.

Oh. The 29th of July. Sorry I misunderstood.

06-14-2010, 05:17 PM	#22
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	I'm suspecting that we are very close to a "final" beta prior to 3.1, if not already there. Don't know if we've made life easier for Jim, but I believed we've helped him somewhat. Well, many of you have. Don't know whether I fall in the "Good Guys" column or the PIA column in his ledger. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-14-2010, 06:06 PM	#23
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	With all your work on the User Guide? Totally a Good Pain - no question! Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

06-14-2010, 06:08 PM	#24
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Well, thanks for that, Wizwad. But, no one has seen what I've done so the jury is still out. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-14-2010, 06:13 PM	#26
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Or so we assume. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

06-14-2010, 06:23 PM	#27
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Well, my unwritten agreement with Jim is that only he will get my draft, so only he and I will know exactly how much of what I did makes it through the editing gauntlet. Having said that, I will point out that the original or current readme is 13k on my PC, while what I've done is now at 37k although what I send to Jim will probably be about 35k since some of it currently is notes to myself regarding things I need to check before I send it. Even so, Jim may wield a big "rejected" stamp, so we'll see what we shall see. (or read what we shall read, whatever.) I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

05-27-2010, 01:50 PM	#21
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Ah! Now it's named Gamespot, and the deal is video games.

06-14-2010, 06:12 PM	#25
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by JohnWho: Well, thanks for that, Wizwad. But, no one has seen what I've done so the jury is still out. You've accomplished more than anyone else ever has, with respect to documentation.

06-15-2010, 05:36 AM	#28
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	What was the outcome on the suggestion to create a fully indexed, hyperlinked document? Or was there one? I was just wondering due to other comments about the 'standard Windows Help' option, and that it would have to come purely from documents we (or rather, you) put together containing such 'standard help'. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

06-15-2010, 05:51 AM	#29
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	I can't respond to that, Wizwad. I'm only helping with an updated readme.txt. Don't know anything about a planned (or unplanned, for that matter) "help" or documentation beyond the readme. The Nova folks did create a "User's Guide" in PDF format, though. It will need to be revised somewhat for 3.1. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-15-2010, 09:53 AM	#30
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	I assume that the User Guide will be available on the SereneScreen website, and maybe visible sometime during the Installation process. I have nothing to do with the Installer, and don't recall ever having seen the Installer version, but some have mentioned that is contains a readme file. I won't be building the file into the actual program, as the translations could take months. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-15-2010, 10:31 AM	#31
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I assume that the User Guide will be available on the SereneScreen website, and maybe visible sometime during the Installation process. I have nothing to do with the Installer, and don't recall ever having seen the Installer version, but some have mentioned that is contains a readme file. I won't be building the file into the actual program, as the translations could take months. OK. But this forum did test the Installer version of 3.0 Originally posted by Jim Sachs: We are getting very close to releasing Marine Aquarium 3 to the public. We have produced an Installer for Marine Aquarium 3 Beta 8k which we would like everyone to take a look at and test out. .

06-15-2010, 10:42 AM	#32
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-15-2010, 03:00 PM	#33
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	@ Jim - I'll be sending you what I've done with the readme.txt file later tonight after I take a bit of time and make sure it matches up with 11p which appears is the final beta. I'm assuming the only visible change you made from 11p to 3.1 is those few "-" and "+" signs? Does Edgar need the new readme.txt file to do all this? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-15-2010, 06:31 PM	#34
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	@ Jim - Draft "readme.txt" for MA3.1 is on it's way. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

06-15-2010, 07:29 PM	#35
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Got it, thanks. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-01-2010, 01:58 PM	#36
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	June 15th Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th. Presumably, some delay.

07-01-2010, 02:12 PM	#37
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	It is a free upgrade, Dale. No money, no hurry. Ain't that the way? Although, as we've said in the past - removing the "beta" designation could make some difference. We'll see. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

07-01-2010, 10:10 PM	#38
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Edgar is on vacation. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-02-2010, 06:41 AM	#39
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Originally posted by Dale: June 15th Presumably, some delay. Or, an extended vacation. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

07-02-2010, 08:11 AM	#40
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Edgar may be able to produce an installer version today, and the Forum members will be encouraged to test it. However, if changes are needed he won't be able to make them until he returns from vacation on the 29th. Oh. The 29th of July. Sorry I misunderstood.