Developer Notes - Page 24

Rosenfritz · 03-09-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Could you describe the artifacts?

Where can I send a picture of the 19" monitor, that wont clog up the forum? Or should I just attach it?
In either case, I get to wait 'till I'm on a break, here at work, before I can do that

......

Jim Sachs · 03-09-2009, 12:16 PM

Can't you just post it in this thread, using "Go Advanced" and "Attach Files"? Or better yet, start a new thread.

cjmaddy · 03-09-2009, 01:03 PM

Rosenfritz,

Is it anything like this?

Video:
Video posted by Doc some time back!

If so, there is some discussion about it here..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4403

ps. BTW, Don't think that I'd deserted the madhouse completely!.

. We've bene quietly celebrating an anniversary, in the Cotswolds.

Rosenfritz · 03-09-2009, 01:20 PM

[quote=cjmaddy;111684]Rosenfritz,

Is it anything like this?

Video:
Video posted by Doc some time back!

If so, there is some discussion about it here..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4403

Thanks, cjmandy! Yes, the picture is similar. I'll continue with this in that forum. My second monitor has a slightly different pattern to it, though.....

Jim Sachs · 03-09-2009, 01:27 PM

If that's basically what you are seeing, then it's the same issue. It's caused by the background not being painted. The exact pattern depends on whatever random numbers happened to be in those bytes of video RAM at the time. I thought we had squashed this, but apparently not.

PaulsPics · 03-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Hi, Anyone
Can anybody tell me if this problem has arisen before and I have over looked a posting regarding it, in all the many postings on the forum. I have looked all over in vain.

On the Music Play list picker I added a lot of my own bits of Music, Ok. They all play well.

In a moment of sorting I Hit the button " Remove" just as Jims original track of "Cannon" was highlighted and sure it WAS removed for good it seems.

Is there any method of reinstating that one track, I am unable to fnd it at all in the uploads that we have received, and am not competant in breaking down a download ito its various componenets, which I am sure would be in breach of the licence anyway.
Is it possible to have a copy of the music media for that track? that could be added to my list of media from which I drew the other tracks.
Maybe I am overlooking the obvious ??
Many thanks if you can help, and if this is something new and not pointed out as yet might be noted for future attention. Maybe some sort of place for removed music for future reinstatement? Its a very nice piece of music.
Many Thanks
Paul

cjmaddy · 03-10-2009, 10:42 AM

Paul,

If you click on the 'Add' button in the Music Playlist, you should find Jim's original track of 'Cannon', (CanonGuitar.sgt), listed in....

C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3\CanonGuitar.sgt

..... Bingo! ..... The return of the Canon! ...

Jim Sachs · 03-10-2009, 10:44 AM

It hadn't really occurred to me that someone would want it back after removing it. If you remove everything else or delete the Playlist, then it would be back, but you'd also lose the rest of the list.

The easiest way is probably to bring the MA3Playlist.lst file into a text editor (like Notepad), and add the line "CanonGuitar.sgt" (no path is necessary). The Playlist can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\[your name]\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3. My playlist currently looks like this:

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\avemaria.mid
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\arabesque.mid
CanonGuitar.sgt

Producer-Magic · 03-22-2009, 03:04 PM

Jim, the website has MA3 beta still at $19.99. I thought I saw where you have asked for it to be reduced to $14.99, still true? not that it matters much, I am still on my way to purchase MA3.

Does the activation key work on both the beta and retail client and the final iteration of MA3?.... I would like to start now and go through the changes as it evolves.

Jim Sachs · 03-23-2009, 10:12 AM

MA2.6 was reduced to $14.99 some time ago, then to $9.99 when MA3 came out. No plans to reduce MA3.

Producer-Magic · 04-03-2009, 05:20 PM

Hi Jim, thank you for the reply. I LOVE this new version! How do we get the hotfixes. patches and other upgrades for 3?

PaulsPics · 04-05-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

It hadn't really occurred to me that someone would want it back after removing it. If you remove everything else or delete the Playlist, then it would be back, but you'd also lose the rest of the list.

The easiest way is probably to bring the MA3Playlist.lst file into a text editor (like Notepad), and add the line "CanonGuitar.sgt" (no path is necessary). The Playlist can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\[your name]\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3. My playlist currently looks like this:

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\avemaria.mid
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\arabesque.mid
CanonGuitar.sgt

Dear Jim,
I never had any success in getting Canon to play as you described BUT only if I deleted the rest of my play list, then it does return and as you had suggested plays Ok.
BIG BUT is that I have other music that also sounds great and as soon as I add those tracks to the playlist Canon is not available and the name also vanishes off the list.
I was not going to hold up all the other valuable work you are doing that we are so looking forward to but do see several posts now with problems of this Music file so thought I should report. I note Cliff states that his machine closes MA3 after 5 minutes of Canon,
I have several lists of music on the play list, one of more than 7 Mbs plays over 8 minuets without any problem and also switches to other MP3 and midi tracks with no problem. but even if I place your notepad SGT file for Canon it does not show up, Since I consider that it was a very good choice of yours in the first place, can you advise where I can find the original file in an ordinary format that I could add to my newly created folder within the Serene Screen location, that I keep as back up and can switch the 'play list' to suite the mood of the day/ evening. I have seen and have other versions of Canon but not of equal quality to the Guitar one you used. Yes I realize that the .SGT file reduces the size of the file being played but my Win XP seems to handle the loads pretty well without a problem. so if you or someone on the forum has the CANON file in MP3 or in Midi I would love to get hold of it with many thanks. I also thought that this post may help others and the Danger of removing the original Canon off the playlist.
I had a horrible feeling when I read your reply that somehow you could read my computer as the music you showed on your Play list was Avemaria.mid and again Arabesque.mid a couple of my other favorite files. We must have the same choices !!!
The long 8.15 min MPEG track that does work well even at 7.61 Mbs is some ambient music-- " UT_2006_Comp_Compile_edit_128k " but I do not know where I originally got it from.
Regards Sorry for my long posts I must be getting old and longwinded !!
pAUL Sydney Australia Windows XP Pentium 3.2 gig NIVIDIA GForce 6150 SE

cjmaddy · 04-05-2009, 10:27 AM

Paul,
It might be worth you trying the following.....
Right-click on the MA3 desktop icon, (or the Marine Aquarium 3 program in the Start list), then click on 'Configure' and then 'Music Playlist'
You will hopefully then have a version of CanonGuitar.sgt back in the list.
If not, - here is a MP3 version... www.cjmaddy.co.uk/forum/CanonGuitar.mp3 - (This is a large file, so I will not leave up for a long period)

PaulsPics · 04-06-2009, 08:27 AM

Thanks Cliff, I may not be helping much to 'fix' any 'bugs' in Jim's forum, and possibly I may be straying from Jim's intentions to keep the SS 3 program at a minimum in Mbs size.
But I think I should at least report that this does work well.
I have opened a new folder within my Serene screen original folder in the program files
called it " Music for MA 3 " and placed all the suitable bits of music that I have accumulated over the years Plus the Canon file you so kindly supplied.
Now I can return to the SS and start the program and in the Music Picker 'add ' the tracks I feel like for the day. In similar vein, I can 'remove ' unwanted tracks without actually losing them, as they are safe in the holding file and easily to find and 'add' when in the mood. Although this must make the program rather bulky in totality, it is now manageable and most enjoyable.
I also report that your file played right through and then switched to the next track without a glitch and vice versa.
I do hope your own problem of closing down after playing 5 minutes is now solved. 'fraid I am not competent to help at all.
I have within the last 20 years gone to our famous Barrier Reef and one day gone to the extent of being allowed to use a Scuba dive down to the sandy floor between coral heads, plenty of fish but no music !! this program is the closest I have seen since, pure magic.
So, - Many, many Thanks to Jim.
Regards Paul

nogard0 · 11-29-2009, 12:52 AM

quote: "From now on, anyone purchasing MA2.6 at SereneScreen.com will also get a permanent MA3 Key. For those who bought MA2.6 recently, there will be a grace period, which we are still working out."

what about those of us that have the ma2.6 cd ... are we out of luck to get a ma3 key? i do not want to spend more $$ just to get a key for something that already has a key. and i just got ma2.6 friday.
====
p.s.
unless it has been mentioned before the about screen ma3 has a typo on ctrl-r ... reset to defaut (default typo).

p.p.s.
also will ma2.6 be updated? the ctrl functions do not work for 98se amd xp because ctrl ends saver.

doug
qa engineer / tester worldwide.

feldon34 · 11-30-2009, 08:28 PM

MA3.0 has a totally new 3D background. You are welcome to run MA2.6 for as long as you wish. If you bought MA2.6 online, then the upgrade to 3.0 was free.

MA2.6 is, I believe, end-of-life as far as development.

To resolve the problem you are having with the Ctrl key, turn off "Exit on Mouse Move".

CANDYMAN · 12-04-2009, 08:17 PM

I am trying to run the latest 3.0 beta and have a problem. I run three 22" monitors for my desktop off two GTS 260 video cards. I'm running win7 64 bit. when I start the beta the opening screen just flashes on and off on the center and left most monitors while the right one stays blank.
I have read on here of people running the beta on multiple monitors and on 64 bit os's so I assume it should work but I'm not sure what to try. Any ideas?

Also, 2.6 works fine except I can't get it to stretch across the three monitors, it only shows up on the main center monitor. Can it even be stretched across all three?

thanks.

Dale · 12-04-2009, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by CANDYMAN:

I am trying to run the latest 3.0 beta and have a problem. I run three 22" monitors for my desktop off two GTS 260 video cards. I'm running win7 64 bit. when I start the beta the opening screen just flashes on and off on the center and left most monitors while the right one stays blank.
I have read on here of people running the beta on multiple monitors and on 64 bit os's so I assume it should work but I'm not sure what to try. Any ideas?

Also, 2.6 works fine except I can't get it to stretch across the three monitors, it only shows up on the main center monitor. Can it even be stretched across all three?

thanks.

Anything like this thread?

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=5020

CANDYMAN · 12-05-2009, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Dale:

Anything like this thread?

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=5020

Yep, sounds like the people in that thread are having the same basic issue I'm having. I found that if I go to windowed mode it starts working and then I can go back to full but it just clones the aquarium on all three displays rather than spanning them all. From the looks of it no real solution has been found yet?
I hope this issue will be resolved soon because I love 3.0, it looks much better than 2.6 and that's saying a lot because 2.6 looked amazing.

cjmaddy · 12-05-2009, 05:03 AM

I don't think there is a problem here that needs resolving by either Jim or MA3....
I'm running 2560x1024 across two 5x4 monitors, (@1280x1024 each). - The largest window that does not pan is approx 2560x800.
I think the solution, (if there is one), is either with your video card settings, or with Windows 7.
Why would you want to "stretch" MA2.6 across three monitors? - MA2.6 is designed to show the same image on all screens, its image is not intended to cover more than one monitor, in the way that MA3 can.

03-09-2009, 12:16 PM	#462
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Can't you just post it in this thread, using "Go Advanced" and "Attach Files"? Or better yet, start a new thread. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-09-2009, 01:27 PM	#465
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	If that's basically what you are seeing, then it's the same issue. It's caused by the background not being painted. The exact pattern depends on whatever random numbers happened to be in those bytes of video RAM at the time. I thought we had squashed this, but apparently not. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-10-2009, 10:00 AM	#466
PaulsPics Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 71	The Music Playlist Maybe a simple misunderstanding Hi, Anyone Can anybody tell me if this problem has arisen before and I have over looked a posting regarding it, in all the many postings on the forum. I have looked all over in vain. On the Music Play list picker I added a lot of my own bits of Music, Ok. They all play well. In a moment of sorting I Hit the button " Remove" just as Jims original track of "Cannon" was highlighted and sure it WAS removed for good it seems. Is there any method of reinstating that one track, I am unable to fnd it at all in the uploads that we have received, and am not competant in breaking down a download ito its various componenets, which I am sure would be in breach of the licence anyway. Is it possible to have a copy of the music media for that track? that could be added to my list of media from which I drew the other tracks. Maybe I am overlooking the obvious ?? Many thanks if you can help, and if this is something new and not pointed out as yet might be noted for future attention. Maybe some sort of place for removed music for future reinstatement? Its a very nice piece of music. Many Thanks Paul Paul

03-10-2009, 10:44 AM	#468
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	It hadn't really occurred to me that someone would want it back after removing it. If you remove everything else or delete the Playlist, then it would be back, but you'd also lose the rest of the list. The easiest way is probably to bring the MA3Playlist.lst file into a text editor (like Notepad), and add the line "CanonGuitar.sgt" (no path is necessary). The Playlist can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\[your name]\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3. My playlist currently looks like this: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\avemaria.mid C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\arabesque.mid CanonGuitar.sgt Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-23-2009, 10:12 AM	#470
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	MA2.6 was reduced to $14.99 some time ago, then to $9.99 when MA3 came out. No plans to reduce MA3. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-09-2009, 11:09 AM	#461
Rosenfritz Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA Posts: 10	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Could you describe the artifacts? Where can I send a picture of the 19" monitor, that wont clog up the forum? Or should I just attach it? In either case, I get to wait 'till I'm on a break, here at work, before I can do that ......

03-09-2009, 01:03 PM	#463
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Rosenfritz, Is it anything like this? Video: Video posted by Doc some time back! If so, there is some discussion about it here..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4403 ps. BTW, Don't think that I'd deserted the madhouse completely!. . We've bene quietly celebrating an anniversary, in the Cotswolds.

03-09-2009, 01:20 PM	#464
Rosenfritz Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA Posts: 10	[quote=cjmaddy;111684]Rosenfritz, Is it anything like this? Video: Video posted by Doc some time back! If so, there is some discussion about it here..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4403 Thanks, cjmandy! Yes, the picture is similar. I'll continue with this in that forum. My second monitor has a slightly different pattern to it, though.....

03-10-2009, 10:42 AM	#467
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Paul, If you click on the 'Add' button in the Music Playlist, you should find Jim's original track of 'Cannon', (CanonGuitar.sgt), listed in.... C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3\CanonGuitar.sgt ..... Bingo! ..... The return of the Canon! ...

03-22-2009, 03:04 PM	#469
Producer-Magic Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4	Jim, the website has MA3 beta still at $19.99. I thought I saw where you have asked for it to be reduced to $14.99, still true? not that it matters much, I am still on my way to purchase MA3. Does the activation key work on both the beta and retail client and the final iteration of MA3?.... I would like to start now and go through the changes as it evolves.

04-03-2009, 05:20 PM	#471
Producer-Magic Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4	Upgrades? Hi Jim, thank you for the reply. I LOVE this new version! How do we get the hotfixes. patches and other upgrades for 3?

04-05-2009, 08:47 AM	#472
PaulsPics Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 71	Music Playlist - .SGT notepad file located & Wish use Originally posted by Jim Sachs: It hadn't really occurred to me that someone would want it back after removing it. If you remove everything else or delete the Playlist, then it would be back, but you'd also lose the rest of the list. The easiest way is probably to bring the MA3Playlist.lst file into a text editor (like Notepad), and add the line "CanonGuitar.sgt" (no path is necessary). The Playlist can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\[your name]\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3. My playlist currently looks like this: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\avemaria.mid C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Music\arabesque.mid CanonGuitar.sgt Dear Jim, I never had any success in getting Canon to play as you described BUT only if I deleted the rest of my play list, then it does return and as you had suggested plays Ok. BIG BUT is that I have other music that also sounds great and as soon as I add those tracks to the playlist Canon is not available and the name also vanishes off the list. I was not going to hold up all the other valuable work you are doing that we are so looking forward to but do see several posts now with problems of this Music file so thought I should report. I note Cliff states that his machine closes MA3 after 5 minutes of Canon, I have several lists of music on the play list, one of more than 7 Mbs plays over 8 minuets without any problem and also switches to other MP3 and midi tracks with no problem. but even if I place your notepad SGT file for Canon it does not show up, Since I consider that it was a very good choice of yours in the first place, can you advise where I can find the original file in an ordinary format that I could add to my newly created folder within the Serene Screen location, that I keep as back up and can switch the 'play list' to suite the mood of the day/ evening. I have seen and have other versions of Canon but not of equal quality to the Guitar one you used. Yes I realize that the .SGT file reduces the size of the file being played but my Win XP seems to handle the loads pretty well without a problem. so if you or someone on the forum has the CANON file in MP3 or in Midi I would love to get hold of it with many thanks. I also thought that this post may help others and the Danger of removing the original Canon off the playlist. I had a horrible feeling when I read your reply that somehow you could read my computer as the music you showed on your Play list was Avemaria.mid and again Arabesque.mid a couple of my other favorite files. We must have the same choices !!! The long 8.15 min MPEG track that does work well even at 7.61 Mbs is some ambient music-- " UT_2006_Comp_Compile_edit_128k " but I do not know where I originally got it from. Regards Sorry for my long posts I must be getting old and longwinded !! pAUL Sydney Australia Windows XP Pentium 3.2 gig NIVIDIA GForce 6150 SE

04-05-2009, 10:27 AM	#473
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Paul, It might be worth you trying the following..... Right-click on the MA3 desktop icon, (or the Marine Aquarium 3 program in the Start list), then click on 'Configure' and then 'Music Playlist' You will hopefully then have a version of CanonGuitar.sgt back in the list. If not, - here is a MP3 version... www.cjmaddy.co.uk/forum/CanonGuitar.mp3 - (This is a large file, so I will not leave up for a long period)

04-06-2009, 08:27 AM	#474
PaulsPics Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 71	Many thanks Cliff, downloaded. all's well & running Thanks Cliff, I may not be helping much to 'fix' any 'bugs' in Jim's forum, and possibly I may be straying from Jim's intentions to keep the SS 3 program at a minimum in Mbs size. But I think I should at least report that this does work well. I have opened a new folder within my Serene screen original folder in the program files called it " Music for MA 3 " and placed all the suitable bits of music that I have accumulated over the years Plus the Canon file you so kindly supplied. Now I can return to the SS and start the program and in the Music Picker 'add ' the tracks I feel like for the day. In similar vein, I can 'remove ' unwanted tracks without actually losing them, as they are safe in the holding file and easily to find and 'add' when in the mood. Although this must make the program rather bulky in totality, it is now manageable and most enjoyable. I also report that your file played right through and then switched to the next track without a glitch and vice versa. I do hope your own problem of closing down after playing 5 minutes is now solved. 'fraid I am not competent to help at all. I have within the last 20 years gone to our famous Barrier Reef and one day gone to the extent of being allowed to use a Scuba dive down to the sandy floor between coral heads, plenty of fish but no music !! this program is the closest I have seen since, pure magic. So, - Many, many Thanks to Jim. Regards Paul

11-29-2009, 12:52 AM	#475
nogard0 Registered Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2	ma3 key: what about those of us that have the ma2.6 cd quote: "From now on, anyone purchasing MA2.6 at SereneScreen.com will also get a permanent MA3 Key. For those who bought MA2.6 recently, there will be a grace period, which we are still working out." what about those of us that have the ma2.6 cd ... are we out of luck to get a ma3 key? i do not want to spend more $$ just to get a key for something that already has a key. and i just got ma2.6 friday. ==== p.s. unless it has been mentioned before the about screen ma3 has a typo on ctrl-r ... reset to defaut (default typo). p.p.s. also will ma2.6 be updated? the ctrl functions do not work for 98se amd xp because ctrl ends saver. doug qa engineer / tester worldwide.

11-30-2009, 08:28 PM	#476
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	MA3.0 has a totally new 3D background. You are welcome to run MA2.6 for as long as you wish. If you bought MA2.6 online, then the upgrade to 3.0 was free. MA2.6 is, I believe, end-of-life as far as development. To resolve the problem you are having with the Ctrl key, turn off "Exit on Mouse Move". "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-04-2009, 08:17 PM	#477
CANDYMAN Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 13	I am trying to run the latest 3.0 beta and have a problem. I run three 22" monitors for my desktop off two GTS 260 video cards. I'm running win7 64 bit. when I start the beta the opening screen just flashes on and off on the center and left most monitors while the right one stays blank. I have read on here of people running the beta on multiple monitors and on 64 bit os's so I assume it should work but I'm not sure what to try. Any ideas? Also, 2.6 works fine except I can't get it to stretch across the three monitors, it only shows up on the main center monitor. Can it even be stretched across all three? thanks.

12-04-2009, 10:09 PM	#478
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by CANDYMAN: I am trying to run the latest 3.0 beta and have a problem. I run three 22" monitors for my desktop off two GTS 260 video cards. I'm running win7 64 bit. when I start the beta the opening screen just flashes on and off on the center and left most monitors while the right one stays blank. I have read on here of people running the beta on multiple monitors and on 64 bit os's so I assume it should work but I'm not sure what to try. Any ideas? Also, 2.6 works fine except I can't get it to stretch across the three monitors, it only shows up on the main center monitor. Can it even be stretched across all three? thanks. Anything like this thread? https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=5020

12-05-2009, 12:00 AM	#479
CANDYMAN Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 13	Originally posted by Dale: Anything like this thread? https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=5020 Yep, sounds like the people in that thread are having the same basic issue I'm having. I found that if I go to windowed mode it starts working and then I can go back to full but it just clones the aquarium on all three displays rather than spanning them all. From the looks of it no real solution has been found yet? I hope this issue will be resolved soon because I love 3.0, it looks much better than 2.6 and that's saying a lot because 2.6 looked amazing.

12-05-2009, 05:03 AM	#480
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I don't think there is a problem here that needs resolving by either Jim or MA3.... I'm running 2560x1024 across two 5x4 monitors, (@1280x1024 each). - The largest window that does not pan is approx 2560x800. I think the solution, (if there is one), is either with your video card settings, or with Windows 7. Why would you want to "stretch" MA2.6 across three monitors? - MA2.6 is designed to show the same image on all screens, its image is not intended to cover more than one monitor, in the way that MA3 can. Last edited by cjmaddy; 12-05-2009 at 06:52 AM.