Wishlist for Marine Aquarium 3 and Future - Page 25

Swede · 02-21-2002, 05:31 PM

Hi Jim! I'm impressed with your work in presenting this wonderful world for us. No fishes or corals gets captured or harvested to be transported half across the globe. You make this hobby attainable for all, and at the same time you save a life or two.

I had in my aquarium the mandarine fish, and I read somewhere on this site that this fish might be introduced in the serenescreen later. I wonder how the fish will behave, when you give him life.

My mandarine hovered quite close to the rocks snapping for shrimps, propelling himself upp and down the rockwall. He was rarely seen swimming in the open waters... He was my favourite and I would like to see a similare behaviour in your mandarine. Will that even be possible?!

An other thing is about the water surface of the aquarium... or added depth. In a real tank we are quite limited, but here in this world of wonders... maybe? Reflections and real depth could give a more real look to the aquarium, something all aquarists strive for... A piece of nature in your livingroom.

bslenter · 02-22-2002, 01:33 AM

Thanks for the lionfish Jim, it is a wonderful addition to my prized tank (er, computer screen).

My top wishlist item for the next release is the coral shrimp. I have one in my real aquarium and it is quite amazing. They are so striking with their red and white bands, super-long antennae, and huge claws. They look threatening yet extremely delicate. However I imagine it would be a huge challenge to code. How do you reproduce all those tiny legs and long, thin antennae.

I'm sure this one is on hold until the 3-d background, because he'll need rocks to climb on, caves to hang upside-down inside, and corals to pick food out of. And he'll take some real good 3-d trickery to code

Jim Sachs · 02-22-2002, 01:53 AM

The current plan is to finish the 3D background, then get started on the first of 2 "creature-packs". The coral shrimp should be one of the first critters I create.

peter piscis · 02-22-2002, 01:45 PM

Now that the aquarium is even more indispensable, I wish I could have it running both in a window when I'm at work, and as a screensaver when I'm not. Or separate programs for each function? Failing that, is there a way to keep even just the bubble sound running when the screensaver is not active? (the "Bubble Sound program", available from your friends at SereneScreen at just a modest cost).

Just a wish - if it weren't so great, it would be easier not to keep thinking of these things.

bslenter · 02-22-2002, 03:15 PM

Great news, Jim. I can't wait to see the shrimp. I'll gladly pay whatever the creature pack costs, I'm sure it will be well worth it (and you deserve something for all this effort). I've spent a lot of time observing my coral shrimp, so I could describe some of it's behaviors if that would help. One neat thing he does is reach up with his little front legs, grab the base of his antennae, then runs his claws along the full length of the antennae to clean off food that collects on them and eat it (bending those long antennae down in the process). Hard to describe - you have to see it. I can also get him to crawl up my arm (under water of course) and clean my fingers with his little claws - very cool.

Those of you who haven't seen a coral shrimp before will like it a lot - there's a picture of one on the wishlist.

Anyway, that's a ways off...you still have the 3D background to hassle with.

Jim Sachs · 02-22-2002, 03:47 PM

Peter - I don't quite get what you are asking. Why can't you just run it as a window when you are working? Or minimize it and just listen to the bubble sound?

peter piscis · 02-22-2002, 07:50 PM

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Why can't you just run it as a window when you are working? Or minimize it and just listen to the bubble sound?
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Jim, sorry to be confusing. I do exactly both of those. But as a window I run it small (not enough room on the screen for work otherwise), and I never have the time/memory to manually switch it to full screen when I leave the PC to do other things. It would be peaceful (Serene) to have it automatically come up full screen while I'm busy with non-PC work. Or, if that is not possible, I could be happy with just the sound while I'm working on the PC, if I could have the full screen saver otherwise. At present (I think)you cannot have two copies of the SS running, one as a window, and another as a SS. I hope that helps.....

Jim Sachs · 02-22-2002, 08:01 PM

Yes, it's true that only one copy can run at a time. I had to put that in to eliminate the problem of the screensaver version coming up when the Desktop version was already running. This caused a resource fight, and crashed a lot of machines.

peter piscis · 02-22-2002, 09:10 PM

Jim, could the desktop copy watch for the screensaver version and disable itself when the latter awakes? Or otherwise be aware of each other... Just an idea to put aside for those dull programming moments... Thanks!

Jim Sachs · 02-23-2002, 02:51 AM

Uh, I guess it could. Which of these buttons do I push to make it do that?

pipeta · 02-23-2002, 06:25 AM

Make any windowed aquarium change to full screen when the screensaver is activated by windows.
The biggest problem is that when I run the screensaver as a window and leave the computer the screensaver doesn't start after the 25 minutes I set it to. It's one problem that should be fixed.

qbus · 02-26-2002, 04:27 PM

Hmmm i dont rember seeing this so i will ask a tomatom clown fish. that is the deep red clow with one white strip.. 2 if it is young

also i cant wait for the sea horse but wont they need kelp to hold onto.

Hemigod · 02-27-2002, 11:54 AM

Are there plans for any background Plants? Like those long thin green plants that slowly sway back and forth. That would add a nice touch. And that doesnt see too hard to implement =)

just wondering.
Thanks!

Lightfeather · 02-27-2002, 02:05 PM

Do you mean kelp? I think kelp might be two big for a 200-gallon tank.

But it sure looks really good at Monterey Bay Aquarium!

feldon34 · 02-27-2002, 02:17 PM

qbus,

I've got a really good picture of a Tomato Clown somewhere. I'll post it if I find it. Of course if Jim is going to add a 2nd Clown, then he probably would feel obligated to provide another anemone just for that Clown and of course each species of Clownfish prefers different anemonae (sp?).

Jim Sachs · 02-27-2002, 02:47 PM

There will be things swaying when I get the 3D background done, but it's difficult to find anything in a saltwater environment which would match freshwater plants. There are some "macro-algae that I'm looking into.

Yellow Tang · 03-01-2002, 06:30 AM

Anything like this in your mind, Jim? (Caulerpa cupressoides) :

This one looks also nice (Caulerpa taxifolia) :

Lostboy · 03-01-2002, 01:55 PM

What do you think about adding these?

Pachycerianthus fimbriatus (I find very interesting to watch)

Cucumber (a bit weird, kind of ugly, but variety is the spice of life)

Sand Dollars

Spotted Scorpionfish

Comments please

Lostboy · 03-01-2002, 05:51 PM

I was just doing some browsing here and found a couple guys I couldn’t resist to add to the wishlist.

Calliostoma annulatum (jewelled top snail)

Kelletia kelletii (Kellet's whelk)

Strongylocentrotus purpuratus (purple sea urchin)

I know this one’s been mentioned before, but I’d like to add my vote for it too.

Jim Sachs · 03-01-2002, 07:28 PM

Yes, I've been considering just about all those.

02-21-2002, 05:31 PM	#481
Swede Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden Posts: 172	Mandarine fish... Hi Jim! I'm impressed with your work in presenting this wonderful world for us. No fishes or corals gets captured or harvested to be transported half across the globe. You make this hobby attainable for all, and at the same time you save a life or two. I had in my aquarium the mandarine fish, and I read somewhere on this site that this fish might be introduced in the serenescreen later. I wonder how the fish will behave, when you give him life. My mandarine hovered quite close to the rocks snapping for shrimps, propelling himself upp and down the rockwall. He was rarely seen swimming in the open waters... He was my favourite and I would like to see a similare behaviour in your mandarine. Will that even be possible?! An other thing is about the water surface of the aquarium... or added depth. In a real tank we are quite limited, but here in this world of wonders... maybe? Reflections and real depth could give a more real look to the aquarium, something all aquarists strive for... A piece of nature in your livingroom. 4x / F C Am G F C Am G // Chorus: 3x /F C Am G F C Am G// Last edited by Swede; 02-22-2002 at 06:46 AM.

02-22-2002, 01:33 AM	#482
bslenter Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 18	suggestions Thanks for the lionfish Jim, it is a wonderful addition to my prized tank (er, computer screen). My top wishlist item for the next release is the coral shrimp. I have one in my real aquarium and it is quite amazing. They are so striking with their red and white bands, super-long antennae, and huge claws. They look threatening yet extremely delicate. However I imagine it would be a huge challenge to code. How do you reproduce all those tiny legs and long, thin antennae. I'm sure this one is on hold until the 3-d background, because he'll need rocks to climb on, caves to hang upside-down inside, and corals to pick food out of. And he'll take some real good 3-d trickery to code

02-22-2002, 01:53 AM	#483
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The current plan is to finish the 3D background, then get started on the first of 2 "creature-packs". The coral shrimp should be one of the first critters I create. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-22-2002, 01:45 PM	#484
peter piscis Carpe Piscis Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 33	window and saver both? Bubble noise always? Now that the aquarium is even more indispensable, I wish I could have it running both in a window when I'm at work, and as a screensaver when I'm not. Or separate programs for each function? Failing that, is there a way to keep even just the bubble sound running when the screensaver is not active? (the "Bubble Sound program", available from your friends at SereneScreen at just a modest cost). Just a wish - if it weren't so great, it would be easier not to keep thinking of these things.

02-22-2002, 03:15 PM	#485
bslenter Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 18	Can't wait! Great news, Jim. I can't wait to see the shrimp. I'll gladly pay whatever the creature pack costs, I'm sure it will be well worth it (and you deserve something for all this effort). I've spent a lot of time observing my coral shrimp, so I could describe some of it's behaviors if that would help. One neat thing he does is reach up with his little front legs, grab the base of his antennae, then runs his claws along the full length of the antennae to clean off food that collects on them and eat it (bending those long antennae down in the process). Hard to describe - you have to see it. I can also get him to crawl up my arm (under water of course) and clean my fingers with his little claws - very cool. Those of you who haven't seen a coral shrimp before will like it a lot - there's a picture of one on the wishlist. Anyway, that's a ways off...you still have the 3D background to hassle with.

02-22-2002, 03:47 PM	#486
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Peter - I don't quite get what you are asking. Why can't you just run it as a window when you are working? Or minimize it and just listen to the bubble sound? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-22-2002, 07:50 PM	#487
peter piscis Carpe Piscis Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 33	----------------------------------------------------------------------- Why can't you just run it as a window when you are working? Or minimize it and just listen to the bubble sound? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, sorry to be confusing. I do exactly both of those. But as a window I run it small (not enough room on the screen for work otherwise), and I never have the time/memory to manually switch it to full screen when I leave the PC to do other things. It would be peaceful (Serene) to have it automatically come up full screen while I'm busy with non-PC work. Or, if that is not possible, I could be happy with just the sound while I'm working on the PC, if I could have the full screen saver otherwise. At present (I think)you cannot have two copies of the SS running, one as a window, and another as a SS. I hope that helps.....

02-22-2002, 08:01 PM	#488
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, it's true that only one copy can run at a time. I had to put that in to eliminate the problem of the screensaver version coming up when the Desktop version was already running. This caused a resource fight, and crashed a lot of machines. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-22-2002, 09:10 PM	#489
peter piscis Carpe Piscis Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 33	Jim, could the desktop copy watch for the screensaver version and disable itself when the latter awakes? Or otherwise be aware of each other... Just an idea to put aside for those dull programming moments... Thanks!

02-23-2002, 02:51 AM	#490
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Uh, I guess it could. Which of these buttons do I push to make it do that? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-23-2002, 06:25 AM	#491
pipeta Royal Gramma Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 146	Make any windowed aquarium change to full screen when the screensaver is activated by windows. The biggest problem is that when I run the screensaver as a window and leave the computer the screensaver doesn't start after the 25 minutes I set it to. It's one problem that should be fixed.

02-27-2002, 11:54 AM	#493
Hemigod Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AK Posts: 5	Are there plans for any background Plants? Like those long thin green plants that slowly sway back and forth. That would add a nice touch. And that doesnt see too hard to implement =) just wondering. Thanks!

02-27-2002, 02:05 PM	#494
Lightfeather Occupation: Nerd Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 314	Do you mean kelp? I think kelp might be two big for a 200-gallon tank. But it sure looks really good at Monterey Bay Aquarium! Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

02-27-2002, 02:17 PM	#495
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	qbus, I've got a really good picture of a Tomato Clown somewhere. I'll post it if I find it. Of course if Jim is going to add a 2nd Clown, then he probably would feel obligated to provide another anemone just for that Clown and of course each species of Clownfish prefers different anemonae (sp?). "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-27-2002, 02:47 PM	#496
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	There will be things swaying when I get the 3D background done, but it's difficult to find anything in a saltwater environment which would match freshwater plants. There are some "macro-algae that I'm looking into. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-01-2002, 06:30 AM	#497
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	Anything like this in your mind, Jim? (Caulerpa cupressoides) : This one looks also nice (Caulerpa taxifolia) : Last edited by Yellow Tang; 03-01-2002 at 06:33 AM.

03-01-2002, 01:55 PM	#498
Lostboy SquirrelFish Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 206	What do you think about adding these? Pachycerianthus fimbriatus (I find very interesting to watch) Cucumber (a bit weird, kind of ugly, but variety is the spice of life) Sand Dollars Spotted Scorpionfish Comments please

03-01-2002, 05:51 PM	#499
Lostboy SquirrelFish Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 206	I was just doing some browsing here and found a couple guys I couldn’t resist to add to the wishlist. Calliostoma annulatum (jewelled top snail) Kelletia kelletii (Kellet's whelk) Strongylocentrotus purpuratus (purple sea urchin) I know this one’s been mentioned before, but I’d like to add my vote for it too.

03-01-2002, 07:28 PM	#500
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, I've been considering just about all those. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium