The artist finally speaks up... - Page 3

edaniels · 03-16-2004, 07:22 PM

Sorry, Cliff; I forgot to answer your question... The idea of letting people put their own background photos into a tank doesn't exactly appeal to the control-freak in me... but I'll think about it. I can see how fun it would be to all the other control-freaks out there...

Marian, I am planning to have more gravel possibilities soon. I may stay away from white, though, because isn't that the color Jim used for Marine Aquarium?

Also, Reichart: You really had me going there... until about the seventh typo in a row; even you couldn't type THAT randomly.

(P.S. I just realized that I'm guilty of a bit of false advertising... that picture of me is about five years old, at least. It was taken a few pounds and a couple hundred grey hairs ago. I'll try to get a newer one online. Meantime, that's how I still look to myself...)

Ralph · 03-16-2004, 09:44 PM

Unless I have missed one there are some 40 posts in this thread and some 704 views. No one has used the "WHEN" word.
Let me be so rude..... As one of the artists do you have any insight on "when" will we get some of these additions that have been promised (over and over).

Reichart · 03-16-2004, 09:49 PM

Ralph, we have "promised" nothing. By phrasing it this way, it is combative and accusational. We get feedback, and based on many factors work at a pace that suits our schedule.

Tiny Turtle · 03-17-2004, 02:09 AM

Ralph sure use that "PROMISE" word a lot...

/Tiny Löfte

AKcrab · 03-17-2004, 02:23 AM

Marian Nichols · 03-17-2004, 05:10 AM

Yes, you are right Eric, Jim does have it in the Marine Aquarium, and it works very, very well there. But solid color gravel appeals to me the most. I know how they look in a real tank, where you have the advantage of viewing from different angles, as long as the color does not hide the beauty of the fish, and brown or orange would do that. I have always stays away from the rainbow color gravel, make me think of ‘pute’ when I see it, sorry to be so graphic, but a two tone gravel of the same color works well I think. Just a thought,

edaniels · 03-17-2004, 10:42 AM

Marian: I was also thinking of trying a more zen-like setting, with just black river rock. What do you think?

Ralph: Please keep in mind that there is actually only one artist working on this product, except when I'm schizophrenic. And this stuff doesn't happen quickly. But also, don't worry about pressuring me; after decades in the movie industry, I think I'm immune to it.

Just ask Reichart...

Marian Nichols · 03-17-2004, 11:29 AM

That could do it. I like the black in my goldfish tank almost as well as the white. I say go for it.

Ralph · 03-17-2004, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Reichart
Ralph, we have "promised" nothing. By phrasing it this way, it is combative and accusational. We get feedback, and based on many factors work at a pace that suits our schedule.

You guys are quick to make a product that you can sell. No problem there, it is a business after all.. But in the build up leading to the "sale" there are lots of promises both real and implied about extra features coming SOON. One such "promise" was back in 09-30-2003 when you (Reichart) responded with
1. Q: With version 1.0 of the GA about to be released what "new" features will make it a "must do" upgrade.
A: Well…
More fish.
Fish that do more interesting things (like feeding)
More tanks, and plants, and objects.
Toys (things that have bubbles).

Then in the first part of Jan 2004
Originally posted by Reichart
Holidays tend to be a slow time for us, we push everyone to spend time with their families, but:
Sharks is very very close. Working on one last annoying bug.
MAL: A new version of MA that allows people to make their own logos is being worked on.
GA: New fish, and new background is being worked on. Don’t have a date. But I would guess end of Jan.

edaniels · 03-18-2004, 01:06 AM

Ralph, I think I can help clarify this. The reason Reichart can't accurately predict when there will be new features is that we artists are a wild, uncontrollable bunch. Just when we say we'll have something done by a certain date, the "muse" just ups and leaves us. Every single promise (prediction, whatever you want to call it) that Reichart has made about GA was based on information I gave him. It was information I believed at the time. And I convinced him of it. But it wasn't correct.

I think he's being protective of me when he says we're working "at a pace that suits our schedule." The truth is, he's pushing me (though nicely) every day to accomplish what you want, and if I were more reliable, you'd have it by now.

But thanks very much for the compliment; I'd much rather create a slow trickle of things that are eagerly anticipated than a flood that no one wants!

Marian Nichols · 03-18-2004, 05:27 AM

we artists are a wild, uncontrollable bunch. Just when we say we'll have something done by a certain date, the "muse" just ups and leaves us.

. I can relate to that one, there will be days that I won't write on my book, it has got to be at a time when I am feeling inspire or have an idea that I must get down on paper, or in the computer. But I do not have eager patrons waiting on me. I am able to go at my own leisure. But I think I produce a better, more descriptive and imaginative story this way and one day maybe I’ll even get publish.

Ralph · 03-18-2004, 05:48 PM

Fair enough...... but you (and Jim S) have a large and waiting following that gets increasingly impatient.

Wizwad · 03-18-2004, 06:03 PM

So no pressure there then.

Reichart · 03-18-2004, 07:46 PM

1. Q: You guys are quick to make a product that you can sell.
A: Thank you. And I thought we were slow.

2. Q: But in the build up leading to the "sale" there are lots of promises both real and implied about extra features coming SOON. One such "promise" was back in 09-30-2003 when you (Reichart) responded with

A: No sir, this is not a promise, this is a statement of examples of reasons people would upgrade from 1.0 to something new. All of these things are in fact being worked on, but there is nothing in here about time frame. Nor can there be (as Eric points out). Please leave your attorneys hat at the door.

feldon34 · 03-19-2004, 12:16 AM

I hope I don't have to put a stupid banner "All posts by Jim Sachs, Reichart, Edgar, Schnaaps, edaniels, feldon28, etc. may contain forward-looking statements which may or may not reflect an existing or future product."

03-19-2004, 09:04 AM

Maybe members should accept or decline an agreement to not badger the artists beyond what they can reasonably bear (except Reichart

).

Reichart · 03-19-2004, 09:20 AM

True, I can bear anything, but I find those that play with me often get broken. Had that problem as a kid too.

And Feldon, yes, a warning banner ( done in the style of teh waring label on a lazer) might be useful.

LOL

edaniels · 03-19-2004, 07:17 PM

I maybe Clint meant that the forum members shouldn't badger the artists, but that it's okay for Reichart to badger us.

(Hmmm.... badgers... another idea for a screensaver?)

edaniels · 03-19-2004, 07:17 PM

Make that "I think maybe..."

03-19-2004, 07:33 PM

Very diplomatic of you, Eric, but no. I meant that we should all badger Reichart because I know he likes it. Otherwise he might feel left out.

Besides, he always has such snappy come backs.

03-16-2004, 07:22 PM	#41
edaniels Goldfish Aquarium Developer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Glendale, California Posts: 82	Sorry, Cliff; I forgot to answer your question... The idea of letting people put their own background photos into a tank doesn't exactly appeal to the control-freak in me... but I'll think about it. I can see how fun it would be to all the other control-freaks out there... Marian, I am planning to have more gravel possibilities soon. I may stay away from white, though, because isn't that the color Jim used for Marine Aquarium? Also, Reichart: You really had me going there... until about the seventh typo in a row; even you couldn't type THAT randomly. (P.S. I just realized that I'm guilty of a bit of false advertising... that picture of me is about five years old, at least. It was taken a few pounds and a couple hundred grey hairs ago. I'll try to get a newer one online. Meantime, that's how I still look to myself...) ---------------------------------- E R I C D A N I E L S, a n i m a t o r Goldfish Aquarium Screensaver ----------------------------------

03-16-2004, 09:49 PM	#43
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Ralph, we have "promised" nothing. By phrasing it this way, it is combative and accusational. We get feedback, and based on many factors work at a pace that suits our schedule. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

03-17-2004, 02:09 AM	#44
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Ralph sure use that "PROMISE" word a lot... /Tiny Löfte Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-17-2004, 10:42 AM	#47
edaniels Goldfish Aquarium Developer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Glendale, California Posts: 82	Marian: I was also thinking of trying a more zen-like setting, with just black river rock. What do you think? Ralph: Please keep in mind that there is actually only one artist working on this product, except when I'm schizophrenic. And this stuff doesn't happen quickly. But also, don't worry about pressuring me; after decades in the movie industry, I think I'm immune to it. Just ask Reichart... ---------------------------------- E R I C D A N I E L S, a n i m a t o r Goldfish Aquarium Screensaver ----------------------------------

03-18-2004, 01:06 AM	#50
edaniels Goldfish Aquarium Developer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Glendale, California Posts: 82	Ralph, I think I can help clarify this. The reason Reichart can't accurately predict when there will be new features is that we artists are a wild, uncontrollable bunch. Just when we say we'll have something done by a certain date, the "muse" just ups and leaves us. Every single promise (prediction, whatever you want to call it) that Reichart has made about GA was based on information I gave him. It was information I believed at the time. And I convinced him of it. But it wasn't correct. I think he's being protective of me when he says we're working "at a pace that suits our schedule." The truth is, he's pushing me (though nicely) every day to accomplish what you want, and if I were more reliable, you'd have it by now. But thanks very much for the compliment; I'd much rather create a slow trickle of things that are eagerly anticipated than a flood that no one wants! ---------------------------------- E R I C D A N I E L S, a n i m a t o r Goldfish Aquarium Screensaver ----------------------------------

03-16-2004, 09:44 PM	#42
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Unless I have missed one there are some 40 posts in this thread and some 704 views. No one has used the "WHEN" word. Let me be so rude..... As one of the artists do you have any insight on "when" will we get some of these additions that have been promised (over and over).

03-17-2004, 02:23 AM	#45
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233

03-17-2004, 05:10 AM	#46
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	Yes, you are right Eric, Jim does have it in the Marine Aquarium, and it works very, very well there. But solid color gravel appeals to me the most. I know how they look in a real tank, where you have the advantage of viewing from different angles, as long as the color does not hide the beauty of the fish, and brown or orange would do that. I have always stays away from the rainbow color gravel, make me think of ‘pute’ when I see it, sorry to be so graphic, but a two tone gravel of the same color works well I think. Just a thought,

03-17-2004, 11:29 AM	#48
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	That could do it. I like the black in my goldfish tank almost as well as the white. I say go for it.

03-17-2004, 11:04 PM	#49
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Originally posted by Reichart Ralph, we have "promised" nothing. By phrasing it this way, it is combative and accusational. We get feedback, and based on many factors work at a pace that suits our schedule. You guys are quick to make a product that you can sell. No problem there, it is a business after all.. But in the build up leading to the "sale" there are lots of promises both real and implied about extra features coming SOON. One such "promise" was back in 09-30-2003 when you (Reichart) responded with 1. Q: With version 1.0 of the GA about to be released what "new" features will make it a "must do" upgrade. A: Well… More fish. Fish that do more interesting things (like feeding) More tanks, and plants, and objects. Toys (things that have bubbles). Then in the first part of Jan 2004 Originally posted by Reichart Holidays tend to be a slow time for us, we push everyone to spend time with their families, but: Sharks is very very close. Working on one last annoying bug. MAL: A new version of MA that allows people to make their own logos is being worked on. GA: New fish, and new background is being worked on. Don’t have a date. But I would guess end of Jan.

03-18-2004, 05:27 AM	#51
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	we artists are a wild, uncontrollable bunch. Just when we say we'll have something done by a certain date, the "muse" just ups and leaves us. . I can relate to that one, there will be days that I won't write on my book, it has got to be at a time when I am feeling inspire or have an idea that I must get down on paper, or in the computer. But I do not have eager patrons waiting on me. I am able to go at my own leisure. But I think I produce a better, more descriptive and imaginative story this way and one day maybe I’ll even get publish.

03-18-2004, 05:48 PM	#52
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Fair enough...... but you (and Jim S) have a large and waiting following that gets increasingly impatient. Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889 – 1951) The limits of my language are the limits of my mind. All I know is what I have words for.

03-18-2004, 06:03 PM	#53
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	So no pressure there then. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

03-18-2004, 07:46 PM	#54
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	1. Q: You guys are quick to make a product that you can sell. A: Thank you. And I thought we were slow. 2. Q: But in the build up leading to the "sale" there are lots of promises both real and implied about extra features coming SOON. One such "promise" was back in 09-30-2003 when you (Reichart) responded with A: No sir, this is not a promise, this is a statement of examples of reasons people would upgrade from 1.0 to something new. All of these things are in fact being worked on, but there is nothing in here about time frame. Nor can there be (as Eric points out). Please leave your attorneys hat at the door. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

03-19-2004, 12:16 AM	#55
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I hope I don't have to put a stupid banner "All posts by Jim Sachs, Reichart, Edgar, Schnaaps, edaniels, feldon28, etc. may contain forward-looking statements which may or may not reflect an existing or future product." "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-19-2004, 09:04 AM	#56
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Maybe members should accept or decline an agreement to not badger the artists beyond what they can reasonably bear (except Reichart ).

03-19-2004, 09:20 AM	#57
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	True, I can bear anything, but I find those that play with me often get broken. Had that problem as a kid too. And Feldon, yes, a warning banner ( done in the style of teh waring label on a lazer) might be useful. LOL *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

03-19-2004, 07:17 PM	#58
edaniels Goldfish Aquarium Developer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Glendale, California Posts: 82	I maybe Clint meant that the forum members shouldn't badger the artists, but that it's okay for Reichart to badger us. (Hmmm.... badgers... another idea for a screensaver?) ---------------------------------- E R I C D A N I E L S, a n i m a t o r Goldfish Aquarium Screensaver ----------------------------------

03-19-2004, 07:17 PM	#59
edaniels Goldfish Aquarium Developer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Glendale, California Posts: 82	Make that "I think maybe..." ---------------------------------- E R I C D A N I E L S, a n i m a t o r Goldfish Aquarium Screensaver ----------------------------------

03-19-2004, 07:33 PM	#60
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Very diplomatic of you, Eric, but no. I meant that we should all badger Reichart because I know he likes it. Otherwise he might feel left out. Besides, he always has such snappy come backs.