first impressions on ga beta 0.9 - Page 4

raven · 04-24-2003, 11:30 AM

Thanks for your reply Pushwall,

guess it could be a problem with ATI cards ( I have an ATI all-in-one-wonder rage 128 pro myself ) Any other ATI users with this problem ?

Pushwall · 04-24-2003, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by feldon27
This exists in a recent build of MA2 but was fixed in the latest latest (5590).

Thanks for the update info.....I just got 5590 (which you had mentioned on another thread) and am testing it on a Windows ME machine right now.

Mountainmaster · 04-24-2003, 05:10 PM

memilm wrote: how about a picker for GA?

Well, the Plant Picker was a modest start with that. But I am going to wait out the initial beta stage until things settle down. Otherwise I will be implementing features that are changed again the next day. And besides, a picker makes little sense when there is not much to pick from yet.

Socrates · 04-24-2003, 06:04 PM

Well. I think I'm going to buy. My initial reaction aside, this is really a great piece of work. It does still hold second place to MA, but it really is growing on me.

Derrek · 04-24-2003, 06:36 PM

I ended up purchasing this. Although the fish in MA2 have more beauty to them (partly cause they are saltwater fish), these goldfish are so cool cause they show so much depth to them. It actually looks like a plump goldfish swimming there in the tank.

roseangel · 04-24-2003, 10:13 PM

Mountainmaster:

The plant picker has no effect on the number of plants when I run GA.

Actually, I was hoping Prolific would allow a wider choice of plants, with different colouring (I like the reddish/purple tones) and foliage, and also allow you to choose different combinations, say just background and a couple at the front, instead having to do a preset combination working from back to front.

For example, if we number the plants in order of appearance from 1 to 7, have plants 1, 5 and 6 on, but plants 2, 3, 4 and 7 off.

SunKing · 04-25-2003, 05:53 AM

UPDATE!! - you should read this thread - https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...&threadid=1551 - (thanks again Socrates).

Anyone who has made comments regarding the realism of the background/plants - try turning on 'Texture Sharpening' in your display properties (if available). It made a HUGE difference in the plants/rock. Remember those bad 'movement lines' and how blurry the plants looked - NO MORE! ...those were a couple of my biggest complaints - and they went away with the click of a button.

Derrek · 04-25-2003, 07:43 AM

I may be going out on a limb here but can anyone from Prolific tell us what they are working on to fix in this beta and what may we expect to see in the next build? Also can you give us an idea on what goldfish you are working on for future builds?

Marian Nichols · 04-25-2003, 08:00 AM

I'm not too sure which they may choose, but my wish is for a calio veil-tail.

feldon34 · 04-25-2003, 08:21 AM

We SHOULD see (no promises) quite a few changes before 1.0.

I spoke briefly to the creator of Goldfish and he also sees quite a bit of room for improvement. Any criticism we might have, he is even more critical. He is a huge fan of Jim's work (and became a stronger fan the more time he spent on the Goldfish!).

Still, he agrees about the plants, the lighting on the fish, etc. and is working on improving these things.

Remember, this is version 0.9!

feldon34 · 04-25-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Marian Nichols
I'm not too sure which they may choose, but my wish is for a calio veil-tail.

Got a picture you can post in the Wishlist or "Goldfish Photos" topic?

Derrek · 04-25-2003, 08:39 AM

I remember and realize this is beta, and as all I'm truly impressed. My wife absolutly loves it. Just curious about what the developers think needs improvement and what new goldfish are to follow. Thats all. No bit of complaints from me. :P

Jav400 · 04-25-2003, 09:02 AM

Derrek,

Thanks for the compliments.

Glad you and your wife are enjoying it so much.

Mountainmaster · 04-25-2003, 10:44 AM

roseangel wrote: The plant picker has no effect on the number of plants when I run GA.

No, it doesn't if you run GA at the same time. The plants must be set before starting GA.

And I have to mention that I am still running the pre-beta, so maybe some values have changed... or maybe you are experiencing the bug discussed here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...&threadid=1545
Guess I will have to install the latest beta after all. I have delayed that for several reasons. For one, it seems to be buggier than the pre-beta. And secondly, being a control freak I absolutely hate installers! Does anyone know how to extract the actual saver from the installation program?

Reichart · 04-25-2003, 11:28 AM

Install it on someone elses computer, and then copy the SCR to yours.

Mountainmaster · 04-25-2003, 11:50 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, Reichart. Should have thought of that! I actually have a second puter without 3D capabilities. So it never really occurred to me to install a 3D screensaver on it.

And reading the GA bug forum again I added a reference to a post there, while you were just answering my post. About the issue beta versus pre-beta where the latter seemed more stable, at least to some. Any idea how that could happen?

Discovery One · 04-25-2003, 04:46 PM

I'm still curious about the anal dynamics....

Reichart · 04-25-2003, 05:00 PM

1. :Q And reading the GA bug forum again I added a reference to a post there, while you were just answering my post. About the issue beta versus pre-beta where the latter seemed more stable, at least to some. Any idea how that could happen?
A: You will need to restate the question for me, I have no memory. Really.

Mountainmaster · 04-25-2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Reichart
You will need to restate the question for me, I have no memory. Really.

Sorry, I was in a hurry and rather chaotic I'm afraid. If you want to know what I was going on about take a look at these threads in the GA Bug Reports forum: " I have given up on N442.0.9.510 !" and " Plant settings not retained". These reports led me to suspect that the pre-beta N419.0.9.156 was more stable than the beta N442.0.9.510.
I did not get around to installing N442.0.9.510 yet due to a small nVidia driver upgrade ordeal, but I will do that tomorrow after I got some

Then I am going to try replicating these issues.

seglesto · 04-25-2003, 06:47 PM

Okay, I know I am a bit late, but here goes:

Although I didn't like the GA in the beginning, it is really growing on me. It seems to have a bit more personality than the fish in the MA. The detail is amazing.

The plants' movement is very jerky, but I have not tried the smoothing and AA suggestions yet.

My only real complaint is that the fish in the MA seem really small if I switch immediately between the two screensavers.

04-24-2003, 06:04 PM	#64
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	Well. I think I'm going to buy. My initial reaction aside, this is really a great piece of work. It does still hold second place to MA, but it really is growing on me. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

04-25-2003, 05:53 AM	#67
SunKing Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 238	UPDATE!! - you should read this thread - https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...&threadid=1551 - (thanks again Socrates). Anyone who has made comments regarding the realism of the background/plants - try turning on 'Texture Sharpening' in your display properties (if available). It made a HUGE difference in the plants/rock. Remember those bad 'movement lines' and how blurry the plants looked - NO MORE! ...those were a couple of my biggest complaints - and they went away with the click of a button. My humble Homepage

04-25-2003, 08:00 AM	#69
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	I'm not too sure which they may choose, but my wish is for a calio veil-tail. Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.

04-25-2003, 08:21 AM	#70
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	We SHOULD see (no promises) quite a few changes before 1.0. I spoke briefly to the creator of Goldfish and he also sees quite a bit of room for improvement. Any criticism we might have, he is even more critical. He is a huge fan of Jim's work (and became a stronger fan the more time he spent on the Goldfish!). Still, he agrees about the plants, the lighting on the fish, etc. and is working on improving these things. Remember, this is version 0.9! "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 04-25-2003 at 09:00 AM.

04-25-2003, 08:24 AM	#71
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by Marian Nichols I'm not too sure which they may choose, but my wish is for a calio veil-tail. Got a picture you can post in the Wishlist or "Goldfish Photos" topic? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-24-2003, 11:30 AM	#61
raven Perculiar Clownfish Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 147	Thanks for your reply Pushwall, guess it could be a problem with ATI cards ( I have an ATI all-in-one-wonder rage 128 pro myself ) Any other ATI users with this problem ?

04-24-2003, 11:47 AM	#62
Pushwall Fellow Twang Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 133	Originally posted by feldon27 This exists in a recent build of MA2 but was fixed in the latest latest (5590). Thanks for the update info.....I just got 5590 (which you had mentioned on another thread) and am testing it on a Windows ME machine right now.

04-24-2003, 06:36 PM	#65
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I ended up purchasing this. Although the fish in MA2 have more beauty to them (partly cause they are saltwater fish), these goldfish are so cool cause they show so much depth to them. It actually looks like a plump goldfish swimming there in the tank.

04-24-2003, 10:13 PM	#66
roseangel Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 46	Mountainmaster: The plant picker has no effect on the number of plants when I run GA. Actually, I was hoping Prolific would allow a wider choice of plants, with different colouring (I like the reddish/purple tones) and foliage, and also allow you to choose different combinations, say just background and a couple at the front, instead having to do a preset combination working from back to front. For example, if we number the plants in order of appearance from 1 to 7, have plants 1, 5 and 6 on, but plants 2, 3, 4 and 7 off.

04-25-2003, 07:43 AM	#68
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I may be going out on a limb here but can anyone from Prolific tell us what they are working on to fix in this beta and what may we expect to see in the next build? Also can you give us an idea on what goldfish you are working on for future builds?

04-25-2003, 08:39 AM	#72
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I remember and realize this is beta, and as all I'm truly impressed. My wife absolutly loves it. Just curious about what the developers think needs improvement and what new goldfish are to follow. Thats all. No bit of complaints from me. :P

04-25-2003, 09:02 AM	#73
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Derrek, Thanks for the compliments. Glad you and your wife are enjoying it so much. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

04-25-2003, 11:28 AM	#75
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Install it on someone elses computer, and then copy the SCR to yours. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

04-25-2003, 04:46 PM	#77
Discovery One Dave? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: outside of Atlanta Posts: 60	I'm still curious about the anal dynamics....

04-25-2003, 05:00 PM	#78
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	1. :Q And reading the GA bug forum again I added a reference to a post there, while you were just answering my post. About the issue beta versus pre-beta where the latter seemed more stable, at least to some. Any idea how that could happen? A: You will need to restate the question for me, I have no memory. Really. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

04-25-2003, 06:47 PM	#80
seglesto Percula Clownfish Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 3	Okay, I know I am a bit late, but here goes: Although I didn't like the GA in the beginning, it is really growing on me. It seems to have a bit more personality than the fish in the MA. The detail is amazing. The plants' movement is very jerky, but I have not tried the smoothing and AA suggestions yet. My only real complaint is that the fish in the MA seem really small if I switch immediately between the two screensavers. Steve