** The SereneScreen Freshwater Aquarium WISHLIST ** - Page 4

emathieu · 04-20-2002, 10:59 AM

I know not many people are familiar with these, but I really think that this is one of the bst freshwater fish I've ever had... The are generally very gentile/docile (although can be rather aggressive when attacked), and only eat plant materials (but they will eat vegetable flakes if you start them on it when they are young).

I really didn't know very much about this fish when I got my first one (about 10 years ago), and I was very surprised when it grew from about 2" to over 12"! These are awesome looking fish, and I think they would make a great addition to the freshwater screen saver!

Emathieu.

CephaloP · 04-20-2002, 02:21 PM

We had a tank of about 10 or 12 of these in the pet store I once worked at, with a few Headstanders and Anostomus to boot. Anyway, we manage to train the whole lot to eat only meat, and they were more vicious than any piranha I ever saw. We'd drop the biggest feeder goldfish we could get (or even an ornamental gold if no one was looking) and every fish in the tank would be gnawing furiously on it's own little corner of it, with half a second. The gold would be a skeleton in under a minute sometimes. Which is why I laugh when I see books that say, "community fish, eats only plants."

I doubt it would work this way in Jim's Aquarium though.

Digital Lungfish · 04-21-2002, 03:09 AM

?!?!?!?

Hey Jim,

What happened to your avatar image? I hope not to offend you or anything, but you look noticably older now. Is this a more up to date self portrate?

Lza · 04-21-2002, 12:28 PM

Why no Koi? Perhaps on another screensaver like a pond sometime?

Some other wishes:

especially the first 4 of this list

- Green Terror
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1832.jpg

- Apisto
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture..._apisto_lg.jpg

- Blue Ram
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture...lue_ram_lg.jpg

- Convict Cichlid
http://www.hippocampus-bildarchiv.de...ka/s05924.html

- Plecostomus
http://www.trilbytropicals.com/image...ostomus_11.jpg
http://www.seremban.net/fishcorner/images/Pleco.jpg
and Golden Nugget Pleco
http://www.fishsupply.com/images/Products/HPG00.JPG

- Clown Loach
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz3320.jpg

- Firemouth
http://www.mindspring.com/~joeja/fis...0010427_01.JPG

- Corydoras
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1153.jpg

and many more
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis..._galleries.htm
http://www.fishsupply.com/cgi-bin/co....cgi?item_no=H
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/webpage...idden_reef.htm

And please no treasure chest and other toys - it's realistic for an aquarium but I dislike it like mermaids and burping fishes. It should be a natural environment.

Tiny Turtle · 04-21-2002, 01:32 PM

Lza, That Convict Tang might not like swimming in the fresh water tank given that it's a marine species...

Jim Sachs · 04-21-2002, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Digital Lungfish
?!?!?!?

You look noticably older now. Is this a more up to date self portrate?

Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s

Jim Sachs · 04-21-2002, 01:44 PM

LZA -

The freshwater tank will have a treasure chest - in fact that's what I'm working on at this moment. Thousands of people have asked for it, and the freshwater tank is a more suitable place for it than the reef tank. You will be able to turn it off, though.

hpman77 · 04-21-2002, 02:59 PM

Hey Jim, you're old if you feel old, and I don't think you're feeling old.... you're more active than most of us!

Is there any chance to see guppies swimming in the freshwater tank?

hpman77 · 04-21-2002, 03:08 PM

A site with guppies pics, just in case you never saw one... or many

they have a nice variety

http://www.world-guppy.de/seiten/galerie.htm

Jim Sachs · 04-21-2002, 03:15 PM

Guppies are not usually kept with other types of fish, but I've always liked them and am looking into it. Goldfish and Koi are cold-water fish, and would roast in this tropical tank.

Lza · 04-21-2002, 03:16 PM

Tiny Turtle, Yep. I jumbled the links. I changed it.

Jim Sachs, I hope a complete turn off so the treasure chest completely disappears from the tank and not only stop moving.

Jim Sachs · 04-21-2002, 04:03 PM

Yes, that's exactly what it will do.

James · 04-21-2002, 04:21 PM

Yesterday I went to a shopping center and bump into a pet shop, then saw some cool freshwater fishes.....but the thing attract most of my eyes is Axolotl!!
I then had a suggestion for this Freshwater Aquarium, since there are only fish-talk around here, I would suggest Jim put some crittier, and Axolotl is my first suggestion!!

I guess some ppl dunno what's Axolotl, but they r commonly keep in the Freshwater Aquarium tank.
This is how it looks like:

The axolotl (Ambystoma mexicanum) is a large salamander native to Mexico. It has external gills, regenerative powers, and can live and breed in a larval form. The name is derived from the Aztec god Xolotl, the god of games who could turn himself into an axolotl to escape his enemies. Because axolotls can regenerate legs, tails, heart muscles, and even spinal cords, researchers have long studied them in hopes of learning how to restore diseased heart tissue or damaged or amputated limbs in humans. A very amazing critter eh?

some more pix of it

Well, what do u think Jim? is it possible to add into ur Freshwater Aquarium?

Digital Lungfish · 04-21-2002, 05:13 PM

Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s

Sorry Jim, really. I was just curious is all. I certainly didn't mean for it to sound so bad and for that I do apologize. I guess I could have used a bit more tact when asking that question.

Jim Sachs · 04-21-2002, 05:32 PM

Just kiddin', DL.

James - Salamanders, newts, crayfish, etc., will be in the Freshwater Creature Pack, many moons from now.

Lza · 04-21-2002, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
Yes, that's exactly what it will do.

Great! And I hope there is not a big empty place when the treasure chest is deactivated. ;-)

Digital Lungfish · 04-21-2002, 05:51 PM

James,

The Axolotl is actually the larval form of the Tiger Salamander, one of the largest North American species. I've kept them as pets in the past, quite a lot when I was a kid actually.

They do make for really interesting pets and I would love to see one brought to life in one of Jim's screensavers. However, this type of creature is more appropriatley suited to the Terrarium and not an aquarium. Keep it in mind though, when the time comes and Jim starts work on the Terrarium, we'll need to start adding different species to the wish list.

In case anyone is curious as to what a Tiger Salamander looks like, here's a couple of pictures. Notice the different colors and patterns, it's because they're each from a different place.

James · 04-21-2002, 05:58 PM

Haha Jim, I was just going to suggest the crayfish, May I suggest the type of it?
I'd like to see the unique Blue Crayfish(usually Red or Beown Crayfish are very common), Blue Crayfhis looks just very unique of its color and yet it is a genetic oddity of the common brown crayfish.
some pix of it

and what about some Freshwater Snails?

And with a "Snail allow on glass" toggel in the setting panel...

James · 04-21-2002, 06:12 PM

and I also suggest Trionysiliensis, sorry I dunno it's common name,can anyone tell me?
here's is how it looks like
very similar to Turtle, but its back shell is very soft

Tiny Turtle · 04-22-2002, 03:34 AM

There's actually nothing that is similar to a turtle. All your images are of "real" turtles (and at least two different species). I don't recollect the Trionysiliensis name, but it looks like some sort of softshell turtle. I'll check in a book of mine when I get home from work.

These guys are really hard to keep as pets because their soft shells are susceptible to fungal attacks which demands very high water quality. The Florida softshell having a maximum carapace length of about 30"/75cm might be a problem too... Anyway, they are cool animals and can swim super fast if they want.

04-20-2002, 10:59 AM	#61
emathieu Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1	Banded Leporinus I know not many people are familiar with these, but I really think that this is one of the bst freshwater fish I've ever had... The are generally very gentile/docile (although can be rather aggressive when attacked), and only eat plant materials (but they will eat vegetable flakes if you start them on it when they are young). I really didn't know very much about this fish when I got my first one (about 10 years ago), and I was very surprised when it grew from about 2" to over 12"! These are awesome looking fish, and I think they would make a great addition to the freshwater screen saver! Emathieu.

04-21-2002, 12:28 PM	#64
Lza Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 5	Why no Koi? Perhaps on another screensaver like a pond sometime? Some other wishes: especially the first 4 of this list - Green Terror http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1832.jpg - Apisto http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture..._apisto_lg.jpg - Blue Ram http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture...lue_ram_lg.jpg - Convict Cichlid http://www.hippocampus-bildarchiv.de...ka/s05924.html - Plecostomus http://www.trilbytropicals.com/image...ostomus_11.jpg http://www.seremban.net/fishcorner/images/Pleco.jpg and Golden Nugget Pleco http://www.fishsupply.com/images/Products/HPG00.JPG - Clown Loach http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz3320.jpg - Firemouth http://www.mindspring.com/~joeja/fis...0010427_01.JPG - Corydoras http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1153.jpg and many more http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis..._galleries.htm http://www.fishsupply.com/cgi-bin/co....cgi?item_no=H http://www.thehiddenreef.com/webpage...idden_reef.htm And please no treasure chest and other toys - it's realistic for an aquarium but I dislike it like mermaids and burping fishes. It should be a natural environment. Last edited by Lza; 04-21-2002 at 03:14 PM.

04-21-2002, 01:36 PM	#66
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Re: Jim's Avatar Originally posted by Digital Lungfish ?!?!?!? You look noticably older now. Is this a more up to date self portrate? Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 04-21-2002 at 01:46 PM.

04-21-2002, 01:44 PM	#67
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	LZA - The freshwater tank will have a treasure chest - in fact that's what I'm working on at this moment. Thousands of people have asked for it, and the freshwater tank is a more suitable place for it than the reef tank. You will be able to turn it off, though. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-21-2002, 02:59 PM	#68
hpman77 Blue Angel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Santander (Spain) Posts: 285	Hey Jim, you're old if you feel old, and I don't think you're feeling old.... you're more active than most of us! Is there any chance to see guppies swimming in the freshwater tank? .:: AMD Athlon XP 1700+ :: 512MB SDRAM :: Windows XP SP1 :: shappire ATI radeon 9600 PRO :: Soundblaster Live Player 5.1 :: Directx 9.0 :: (Always latest drivers for everything) ::.

04-20-2002, 02:21 PM	#62
CephaloP lurking in the shadows... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: just a few paces south o' the old willow Posts: 151	We had a tank of about 10 or 12 of these in the pet store I once worked at, with a few Headstanders and Anostomus to boot. Anyway, we manage to train the whole lot to eat only meat, and they were more vicious than any piranha I ever saw. We'd drop the biggest feeder goldfish we could get (or even an ornamental gold if no one was looking) and every fish in the tank would be gnawing furiously on it's own little corner of it, with half a second. The gold would be a skeleton in under a minute sometimes. Which is why I laugh when I see books that say, "community fish, eats only plants." I doubt it would work this way in Jim's Aquarium though.

04-21-2002, 01:32 PM	#65
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Lza, That Convict Tang might not like swimming in the fresh water tank given that it's a marine species...

04-21-2002, 03:08 PM	#69
hpman77 Blue Angel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Santander (Spain) Posts: 285	A site with guppies pics, just in case you never saw one... or many they have a nice variety http://www.world-guppy.de/seiten/galerie.htm .:: AMD Athlon XP 1700+ :: 512MB SDRAM :: Windows XP SP1 :: shappire ATI radeon 9600 PRO :: Soundblaster Live Player 5.1 :: Directx 9.0 :: (Always latest drivers for everything) ::.

04-21-2002, 03:15 PM	#70
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Guppies are not usually kept with other types of fish, but I've always liked them and am looking into it. Goldfish and Koi are cold-water fish, and would roast in this tropical tank. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-21-2002, 03:16 PM	#71
Lza Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 5	Tiny Turtle, Yep. I jumbled the links. I changed it. Jim Sachs, I hope a complete turn off so the treasure chest completely disappears from the tank and not only stop moving. Last edited by Lza; 04-21-2002 at 05:37 PM.

04-21-2002, 04:03 PM	#72
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, that's exactly what it will do. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-21-2002, 04:21 PM	#73
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Yesterday I went to a shopping center and bump into a pet shop, then saw some cool freshwater fishes.....but the thing attract most of my eyes is Axolotl!! I then had a suggestion for this Freshwater Aquarium, since there are only fish-talk around here, I would suggest Jim put some crittier, and Axolotl is my first suggestion!! I guess some ppl dunno what's Axolotl, but they r commonly keep in the Freshwater Aquarium tank. This is how it looks like: The axolotl (Ambystoma mexicanum) is a large salamander native to Mexico. It has external gills, regenerative powers, and can live and breed in a larval form. The name is derived from the Aztec god Xolotl, the god of games who could turn himself into an axolotl to escape his enemies. Because axolotls can regenerate legs, tails, heart muscles, and even spinal cords, researchers have long studied them in hopes of learning how to restore diseased heart tissue or damaged or amputated limbs in humans. A very amazing critter eh? some more pix of it Well, what do u think Jim? is it possible to add into ur Freshwater Aquarium? James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com Last edited by James; 04-21-2002 at 04:24 PM.

04-21-2002, 05:13 PM	#74
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s Sorry Jim, really. I was just curious is all. I certainly didn't mean for it to sound so bad and for that I do apologize. I guess I could have used a bit more tact when asking that question. Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...

04-21-2002, 05:32 PM	#75
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Just kiddin', DL. James - Salamanders, newts, crayfish, etc., will be in the Freshwater Creature Pack, many moons from now. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-21-2002, 05:40 PM	#76
Lza Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 5	Originally posted by Jim Sachs Yes, that's exactly what it will do. Great! And I hope there is not a big empty place when the treasure chest is deactivated. ;-)

04-21-2002, 05:58 PM	#78
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Haha Jim, I was just going to suggest the crayfish, May I suggest the type of it? I'd like to see the unique Blue Crayfish(usually Red or Beown Crayfish are very common), Blue Crayfhis looks just very unique of its color and yet it is a genetic oddity of the common brown crayfish. some pix of it and what about some Freshwater Snails? And with a "Snail allow on glass" toggel in the setting panel... James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

04-21-2002, 06:12 PM	#79
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	and I also suggest Trionysiliensis, sorry I dunno it's common name,can anyone tell me? here's is how it looks like very similar to Turtle, but its back shell is very soft James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

04-22-2002, 03:34 AM	#80
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	There's actually nothing that is similar to a turtle. All your images are of "real" turtles (and at least two different species). I don't recollect the Trionysiliensis name, but it looks like some sort of softshell turtle. I'll check in a book of mine when I get home from work. These guys are really hard to keep as pets because their soft shells are susceptible to fungal attacks which demands very high water quality. The Florida softshell having a maximum carapace length of about 30"/75cm might be a problem too... Anyway, they are cool animals and can swim super fast if they want.