The Logos - Page 4

feldon34 · 04-01-2004, 03:39 PM

The day I write up a nice detailed guide has turned out to be the day that I am testing a new build of Marine Aquarium Time 2.

With past versions of MAT2, I had been creating logos as Targa files. Targas are big (256kb each) and slow to load (with 20 logos, MAT2 was taking 5-6 seconds to start up). The new build of MAT2 now has full support for the PNG-24 format which resolves both problems!

I tested color, black and white, greyscale, and complex transparency in PNG-24 format and they all work fine. My 21 logos have gone on a diet, from 5.5MB down to 441kb and the startup time is now < 2 seconds.

I'm now re-working the Marine Aquarium Time 2 logo creation guide to cover PNG files....

drfish · 04-01-2004, 03:43 PM

Nice... I noticed the tga I made of Tux was much larger than the png... Why use tga at all? I'm no gfx professional but I don't see any advantage...

Edit: God, did I just write "gfx" without even thinking about it? Somebody help me, please...

feldon34 · 04-01-2004, 03:49 PM

Well Targa was the only way that worked 100% in the last build of MAT2. Today's build now supports PNG-24. By way of discussions with Prolific, I think we're going to concentrate all our efforts on PNG-24 and ignore Targa support. I'm sorry that they went to the trouble to write a Targa importer tho.

feldon34 · 04-01-2004, 05:32 PM

The Guide is now completely UPDATED to show how to create logos in PNG-24 format. It is a LOT EASIER to create logos too.

jscherber · 04-02-2004, 01:20 AM

Can we see what this should look like?

Thank you!

feldon34 · 04-02-2004, 08:10 AM

Ici

Tiny Turtle · 04-02-2004, 08:35 AM

Um, am I the only one who thinks the carved out effect get totally lost when color is introduced like that?

jscherber · 04-02-2004, 09:44 AM

I agree, just trying different things. My logo doesn't lend itself to being "carved" as it is a sphere.

patscarr · 04-02-2004, 11:08 AM

Yes, I agree, no color is best.

James · 04-02-2004, 04:42 PM

well..maybe it's not craved out but it does looks a bit embossed "out" of the crystal, maybe this is a good effect, making logo embossed out rather embossed in. why not adding a option to adjust the emboss depth? as most of the image processing application does has the depth adjustment for emboss filter.

feldon34 · 04-02-2004, 05:09 PM

Emboss depth can be set in Photoshop or PSP.

James · 04-02-2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by feldon28
Emboss depth can be set in Photoshop or PSP.

Yes, like I said, in many PSP can do that, but for those novice people, it' better for them to has this added in MAL, and even make the emboss out of the crystal, anyway, I shuold post my suggest to wishlist or nevermind, just my 2 cents!

feldon34 · 04-02-2004, 05:34 PM

So you are wanting an improvement in the built-in BMP loading feature, I see. I'll mention it to JR if he doesn't read this.

feldon34 · 04-07-2004, 08:42 AM

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feldon34 · 04-07-2004, 08:43 AM

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feldon34 · 05-19-2004, 11:37 AM

Marine Aquarium Logo is now Marine Aquarium Time 2. This should eliminate confusion and make it clear that it is a complete replacement/upgrade for MAT.

I'm hearing "a few days". Since MAT2 won't have a logo loader, I'll probably create one.

grape_jellyfish · 05-21-2004, 06:24 PM

Ok here is my first attempt, kinda small but I like the overall effect.

grape_jellyfish · 05-21-2004, 06:58 PM

And another...

Jav400 · 05-21-2004, 07:36 PM

very nice grape

Jav400 · 05-21-2004, 07:41 PM

Since people are posting theirs, I guess I will show one of mine. I have been working on a LOTR set. Here is one of them.

04-01-2004, 03:39 PM	#61
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The day I write up a nice detailed guide has turned out to be the day that I am testing a new build of Marine Aquarium Time 2. With past versions of MAT2, I had been creating logos as Targa files. Targas are big (256kb each) and slow to load (with 20 logos, MAT2 was taking 5-6 seconds to start up). The new build of MAT2 now has full support for the PNG-24 format which resolves both problems! I tested color, black and white, greyscale, and complex transparency in PNG-24 format and they all work fine. My 21 logos have gone on a diet, from 5.5MB down to 441kb and the startup time is now < 2 seconds. I'm now re-working the Marine Aquarium Time 2 logo creation guide to cover PNG files.... "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 05-19-2004 at 11:36 AM.

04-01-2004, 03:43 PM	#62
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Nice... I noticed the tga I made of Tux was much larger than the png... Why use tga at all? I'm no gfx professional but I don't see any advantage... Edit: God, did I just write "gfx" without even thinking about it? Somebody help me, please... I don't watch commercials.

04-01-2004, 03:49 PM	#63
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Well Targa was the only way that worked 100% in the last build of MAT2. Today's build now supports PNG-24. By way of discussions with Prolific, I think we're going to concentrate all our efforts on PNG-24 and ignore Targa support. I'm sorry that they went to the trouble to write a Targa importer tho. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 05-19-2004 at 11:36 AM.

04-01-2004, 05:32 PM	#64
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The Guide is now completely UPDATED to show how to create logos in PNG-24 format. It is a LOT EASIER to create logos too. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-02-2004, 08:35 AM	#67
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Um, am I the only one who thinks the carved out effect get totally lost when color is introduced like that? Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-02-2004, 09:44 AM	#68
jscherber Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 7	Color I agree, just trying different things. My logo doesn't lend itself to being "carved" as it is a sphere. --- James

04-02-2004, 11:08 AM	#69
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Yes, I agree, no color is best. Patrick

04-02-2004, 04:42 PM	#70
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	well..maybe it's not craved out but it does looks a bit embossed "out" of the crystal, maybe this is a good effect, making logo embossed out rather embossed in. why not adding a option to adjust the emboss depth? as most of the image processing application does has the depth adjustment for emboss filter. James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

04-02-2004, 05:09 PM	#71
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Emboss depth can be set in Photoshop or PSP. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-02-2004, 05:29 PM	#72
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by feldon28 Emboss depth can be set in Photoshop or PSP. Yes, like I said, in many PSP can do that, but for those novice people, it' better for them to has this added in MAL, and even make the emboss out of the crystal, anyway, I shuold post my suggest to wishlist or nevermind, just my 2 cents! James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

04-02-2004, 05:34 PM	#73
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	So you are wanting an improvement in the built-in BMP loading feature, I see. I'll mention it to JR if he doesn't read this. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-19-2004, 11:37 AM	#76
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Marine Aquarium Logo is now Marine Aquarium Time 2. This should eliminate confusion and make it clear that it is a complete replacement/upgrade for MAT. I'm hearing "a few days". Since MAT2 won't have a logo loader, I'll probably create one. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-21-2004, 07:36 PM	#79
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	very nice grape Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection