Wishlist for Marine Aquarium 3 and Future - Page 49

Seafoam · 09-13-2003, 11:26 AM

Psychadelic fish (one of my favorites)

Herald's angelfish

Conspicuous angelfish

Lemonpeel angelfish

Scribbled angelfish

Readheaded butterflyfish

patscarr · 09-13-2003, 06:11 PM

Some of Seafoam's pictures are good enough for the wishlist page. (hint, hint)

Jav400 · 09-13-2003, 07:02 PM

They will get there, I got the message.

09-13-2003, 08:26 PM

Longnosed Filefish and Lemonpeel Anglefish get my votes. The Psychedelic Fish reminds me of a Mandarin Dragonet.

GreenHsiF · 09-13-2003, 08:51 PM

This fish looks cool.

09-13-2003, 11:18 PM

Very nice.

feldon34 · 09-14-2003, 08:48 AM

that's similar to a Maroon Clown.

and what you call a Psychadelic fish is the popular Mandarin Gobi (Dragonet) which is slated to be added at a later date.

Seafoam · 09-14-2003, 01:52 PM

^_^

That clownfish is very pretty. The "Psychedelic Fish" IS another name for the Mandarin Gobi (Dragonet.) I've always been used to calling it a Psychedelic fish, but Liveaquaria.com calls it by the other name now too. But I like "psychedelic," it sounds cooler. *grin*

IXNAY · 09-14-2003, 03:46 PM

WOW they are all cool, the psychadelic one is greta

Wizwad · 09-14-2003, 04:27 PM

The Lemonpeel Angelfish is so cute! It totally gets my vote.

memilm · 09-15-2003, 01:27 AM

The Psychadelic fish and the Subgenus Premnas (Anemonefish) are very nice. Anybody know what for fish are the next to implement in SSA?

Tiny Turtle · 09-15-2003, 03:34 AM

Only Jim, and perhaps not even he...

To me the problem with fish like the Mandarin Gobi is that while when you see them in real life what makes them fascinating is that they look so unreal yet still exist. In the SS it's the more "normal" fish that look the best as you know what they look like and can easier appreciate how life-like they are. The more extreme species easily just end up looking too unreal even though they might be very good reproductions of the real thing...

/Tiny Two Cents

Jim Sachs · 09-15-2003, 08:54 AM

That's an interesting point which I used to bring up in my seminars. An artist is often hampered by what people are willing to accept. A photographer might win kudos for capturing an image of a cloud that happens to look just like Abraham Lincoln, but if an artist used the same image in the background of a painting, it would be dismissed as preposterous.

In the past, we have discussed several fish that I have considered too "far out" to include in the Aquarium. The Mandarin Goby is not one of them. The only thing which has thus far precluded it is the swimming motion, which is different from the normal "flat" fish. I am currently planning for the Mandarin to be in the first Creature Pak.

Maybe in a few years the Aquarium will have such a reputation for accuracy that everyone will know that anything in it must be real.

09-15-2003, 01:38 PM

Tiny posted: "The more extreme species easily just end up looking too unreal..."

I agree, but the only fish currently in MA that IMO meets this criteria is the square spotted fish. I can't remember it's exact name because it just seems so unreal to me that I never have it on. However, I have seen a live specimen of the Mandarin Drogonet, and it looked quite real. Perhaps if I'd seen one of the square spotted ones also, I'd be more apt to accept its reality. But sometimes when MA is on I almost forget and tap on the glass, so the line between real and unreal is beginning to blur.

Seafoam · 09-15-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by memilm
The Psychadelic fish and the Subgenus Premnas (Anemonefish) are very nice. Anybody know what for fish are the next to implement in SSA?

Hmm. That does make sense. I like the Lemonpeel angel and the Psychedelic fish too, they are cute!! So is the longnose filefish and the redheaded butterfly. ^_^

Wizwad · 09-15-2003, 03:15 PM

The Redheaded Butterfly seems to have some really clean lines - very elegant. That would be the second one to get my vote.

With regard to clownfish, is it me or are they usually darker on top than underneath? They seem so to me, but maybe I've just not seen proper 'benchmark' pictures of them.

GreenHsiF · 09-15-2003, 04:35 PM

Will there be different skins for the nudibranch to chose from when it comes out?
Is there going to be a limit to how many creatures that can go into the aquarium,or can we have them all in at once?

Jav400 · 09-15-2003, 04:37 PM

There will be a limit just like with the fish, and for the same reasons.

feldon34 · 09-15-2003, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by GreenHsiF
Will there be different skins for the nudibranch to chose from when it comes out?

I have yet to see Jim change the texture on a fish without making at least subtle changes to the 3D body model. So I don't think we'll see different skins per se, but certainly once a Nudibranch model has been created, several species can be produced without a lot of reshaping.

GreenHsiF · 09-16-2003, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
Are you talking about a fish-only pack? I'm certainly not planning any. The idea is for the Creature Paks to contain two or three invertibrates, a couple of unusual fish, and maybe four regular fish.

If one creature pack is going to have three invertibrates,a couple of unusual fish,and four regular fish.
With the two creature packs that would be six invertibrates,four unusual fish,and eight regular fish.On the invertibrates if there are going to be six would that be 1.Octopus?
2.Nudibranch?
3.Jellyfish?
4.Cuttlefish?
5.Green Mandarin Goby?
6.Starfish?
with the four unusual fish and the eight regular fish,that would be twelve more fish to come on to the screen,plus the 3-d background coming sounds like the whole thing is going to be an explosion.

09-13-2003, 06:11 PM	#962
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Some of Seafoam's pictures are good enough for the wishlist page. (hint, hint) Patrick

09-13-2003, 07:02 PM	#963
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	They will get there, I got the message. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

09-14-2003, 08:48 AM	#967
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	that's similar to a Maroon Clown. and what you call a Psychadelic fish is the popular Mandarin Gobi (Dragonet) which is slated to be added at a later date. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-14-2003, 03:46 PM	#969
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	WOW they are all cool, the psychadelic one is greta IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

09-14-2003, 04:27 PM	#970
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	The Lemonpeel Angelfish is so cute! It totally gets my vote. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

09-13-2003, 08:26 PM	#964
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Longnosed Filefish and Lemonpeel Anglefish get my votes. The Psychedelic Fish reminds me of a Mandarin Dragonet.

09-13-2003, 11:18 PM	#966
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Very nice.

09-15-2003, 01:27 AM	#971
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	The Psychadelic fish and the Subgenus Premnas (Anemonefish) are very nice. Anybody know what for fish are the next to implement in SSA?

09-15-2003, 03:34 AM	#972
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Only Jim, and perhaps not even he... To me the problem with fish like the Mandarin Gobi is that while when you see them in real life what makes them fascinating is that they look so unreal yet still exist. In the SS it's the more "normal" fish that look the best as you know what they look like and can easier appreciate how life-like they are. The more extreme species easily just end up looking too unreal even though they might be very good reproductions of the real thing... /Tiny Two Cents Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

09-15-2003, 08:54 AM	#973
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,794	That's an interesting point which I used to bring up in my seminars. An artist is often hampered by what people are willing to accept. A photographer might win kudos for capturing an image of a cloud that happens to look just like Abraham Lincoln, but if an artist used the same image in the background of a painting, it would be dismissed as preposterous. In the past, we have discussed several fish that I have considered too "far out" to include in the Aquarium. The Mandarin Goby is not one of them. The only thing which has thus far precluded it is the swimming motion, which is different from the normal "flat" fish. I am currently planning for the Mandarin to be in the first Creature Pak. Maybe in a few years the Aquarium will have such a reputation for accuracy that everyone will know that anything in it must be real. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-15-2003, 01:38 PM	#974
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Tiny posted: "The more extreme species easily just end up looking too unreal..." I agree, but the only fish currently in MA that IMO meets this criteria is the square spotted fish. I can't remember it's exact name because it just seems so unreal to me that I never have it on. However, I have seen a live specimen of the Mandarin Drogonet, and it looked quite real. Perhaps if I'd seen one of the square spotted ones also, I'd be more apt to accept its reality. But sometimes when MA is on I almost forget and tap on the glass, so the line between real and unreal is beginning to blur. Last edited by klyntun; 09-15-2003 at 06:47 PM.

09-15-2003, 03:15 PM	#976
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	The Redheaded Butterfly seems to have some really clean lines - very elegant. That would be the second one to get my vote. With regard to clownfish, is it me or are they usually darker on top than underneath? They seem so to me, but maybe I've just not seen proper 'benchmark' pictures of them. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

09-15-2003, 04:35 PM	#977
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	Will there be different skins for the nudibranch to chose from when it comes out? Is there going to be a limit to how many creatures that can go into the aquarium,or can we have them all in at once?

09-15-2003, 04:37 PM	#978
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	There will be a limit just like with the fish, and for the same reasons. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

09-15-2003, 04:48 PM	#979
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by GreenHsiF Will there be different skins for the nudibranch to chose from when it comes out? I have yet to see Jim change the texture on a fish without making at least subtle changes to the 3D body model. So I don't think we'll see different skins per se, but certainly once a Nudibranch model has been created, several species can be produced without a lot of reshaping. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-16-2003, 04:24 PM	#980
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	Originally posted by Jim Sachs Are you talking about a fish-only pack? I'm certainly not planning any. The idea is for the Creature Paks to contain two or three invertibrates, a couple of unusual fish, and maybe four regular fish. If one creature pack is going to have three invertibrates,a couple of unusual fish,and four regular fish. With the two creature packs that would be six invertibrates,four unusual fish,and eight regular fish.On the invertibrates if there are going to be six would that be 1.Octopus? 2.Nudibranch? 3.Jellyfish? 4.Cuttlefish? 5.Green Mandarin Goby? 6.Starfish? with the four unusual fish and the eight regular fish,that would be twelve more fish to come on to the screen,plus the 3-d background coming sounds like the whole thing is going to be an explosion.