Beta11f discussion - Page 5

Nicki · 05-04-2010, 10:41 PM

I would like a greyish lavender colour for the digital clock. Between the candy pink and aubergine. A nice subtle colour. All the other things I asked so far have been just me repeating what other people said. I really would like this colour.

Jim Sachs · 05-04-2010, 10:55 PM

Sounds dreadful. Give me RGB values, and I'll put it in.

Nicki · 05-04-2010, 11:29 PM

161/135/167

Thanks Jim. It shall forever be known as dreadful Nicki lavender

Jim Sachs · 05-04-2010, 11:48 PM

That's a really bad color. It hardly shows up at all.

Rick Simon · 05-05-2010, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

That's a really bad color. It hardly shows up at all.

Would it make a difference if you were using a dark, background lighting selection?

JohnWho · 05-05-2010, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I'm not going to spend time on anything fancy, but I could change individual colors if you have a suggestion. They may seem close on some monitors, but the RGB values of these colors are really quite far apart. When I was first adding the digital clock, I was experimenting with a blue-green color that closeley matched a digital clock I had. Everyone absolutely hated the color. So I added a but more blue, and suddenly stopped getting complaints. Yet these two colors are probably the closest together of any in the current selections.

No problem, Jim.

Dreadful Nicki Lavender does appear light when using a light and bright background, but so may some of the other colors. Sometimes a dclock/cal color may simply be too close to the background color to show up well. With 15 choices, a user should be able to pick something that looks acceptable.

Thank you for at least giving us some choices and the opportunity to voice our opinions.

Nicki · 05-05-2010, 09:55 AM

Maybe I chose one that's too subtle. You're right Jim it looks pretty bad.

Is 119/83/108 any better?

Splashy · 05-05-2010, 10:14 AM

Hi, just wanted to report that beta11f works perfectly on my Windows 7x64 system.

I really like the changes and they work well.

Looking forward to the next version :-)

Jim Sachs · 05-05-2010, 11:42 AM

Splashy - thanks for the report.

Nicki - that color is just about as bad. The whole point of the colors that I chose is the fact that they show up pretty well against any background color. You can use a screen-grab of the crystal and a paint program to try different colors for the font.

Nicki · 05-05-2010, 12:40 PM

OK, we'll forget the dreadful lavenders then. Though I still might consider it for my bedroom walls. Thanks for taking the time to look into it.

Gat · 05-05-2010, 08:07 PM

Hi,
With the ability to change colors of the tank I was wondering how hard it would be to be able to link this with the time on the computer so you could have the color change with the time. ie day to night. I am not sure if this can be done with ease or is a hugh project. Oh, by the way, Beta 11F is working fine on Windows XP and Vista premium 64. Have tested on both>

Jim Sachs · 05-05-2010, 10:04 PM

In the software business, we call this "feature creep", where one feature leads to another, and you end up never getting anything done. Right now, I need to concentrate on finishing the etched-font for the digital clock, and sending the package off to Prolific so that the cast-of-thousands can start working on all the translations, Mac version, hardcopy version, packaging, website changes, etc.

Gat · 05-06-2010, 04:55 PM

Hi Mr. Sachs,
Thanks for the quick response. I do understand the problems with getting a program done and out on the market and was just making a quick suggesting. I love your program the way it is and think you've done an outstanding job but just thought that was an idea to maybe work on down the road.
Thanks again for getting right back to me. Keep up the good work.

Gat

JohnWho · 05-21-2010, 02:42 PM

Minor "bug" / annoyance with the Music / Sounds feature.

I normally do not have either the music or bubble sound on.

While testing the music playback screen (for the readme file) I added some MP3s to test it.

Not only did the MP3 play, but the Bubble sound activated, too!

Anyone else getting this on 11f?

Dale · 05-21-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by JohnWho:

Minor "bug" / annoyance with the Music / Sounds feature.

I normally do not have either the music or bubble sound on.

While testing the music playback screen (for the readme file) I added some MP3s to test it.

Not only did the MP3 play, but the Bubble sound activated, too!

Anyone else getting this on 11f?

Please describe exactly, step by step, what you did.

I tried to duplicate what you said. Including starting conditions.

A. Started MA3 from the desktop icon, pressed space, clicked Music Playlist.
B. Note: I normally do not have either sound on, so I didn't touch that (didn't open Program Settings panel at all).
C. I added an MP3 to the music list (it already had 4 things in it).
D. Clicked OK (twice).

Music didn't play, bubbles didn't make a sound. (I do have the bubble column "on", by the way).

Pressed space bar, clicked program settings, and verified that neither box was checked.
I'm sure I'm missing something?

JohnWho · 05-21-2010, 03:32 PM

Dale -

After adding a few MP3s, in the Playlist screen I played part of a song or two and then "OK"-ed out of the screen. I then heard both the music and the bubbles and discovered that both were now checked in "Program Settings". I, too, have the Bubble Column on.

Odd. I've just tried and I can not duplicate this. If I do, I'll make another note of it.

Dale · 05-21-2010, 10:07 PM

** First 2 Lines Comment ** Jim, it's a bug that should be fixed.
Beta 11f, and I can't see how this could be due to Windows 7.

Originally posted by JohnWho:

Dale -

After adding a few MP3s, in the Playlist screen I played part of a song or two and then "OK"-ed out of the screen. I then heard both the music and the bubbles and discovered that both were now checked in "Program Settings". I, too, have the Bubble Column on.

Odd. I've just tried and I can not duplicate this. If I do, I'll make another note of it.

OK, the thing I hadn't done was "Play".

I can duplicate this with the music, repeatedly and precisely, without adding or removing anything. I currently have 7 items in my music playlist - CanonGuitar.sgt plus one .mid, one .wav, and four .mp3s

Started MA3 using the desktop icon.

A. Confirm in Program Settings that "Music" is not checked.
B. Open Music Playlist, highlight anything (CanonGuitar.sgt will do), and click Play.
C. Click on OK - note that the Settings panel comes up, and the music plays.
D. Look in Program Settings, and note that "Music" is now checked.

The various other logical tests (clicking stop, exiting, etc. etc.) don't change that.

Confirmed the same behavior using the other two ways of starting MA3. Did not do any testing in windowed mode, though.

I did not ever observe the bubble sound turning on, though.

Jim Sachs · 05-21-2010, 11:37 PM

Playing music turns on the Music. If the bubble sound comes on at the same time, that would be a bug.

JohnWho · 05-22-2010, 06:46 AM

Yes, and while I'm certain it happened, I can not repeat it.

Unless someone else reports it (or it happens again to me), I guess I'd suggest you file it away in the "quirk" file.

JohnWho · 05-22-2010, 06:51 AM

Uh oh - it appears 11f has expired.

While I can revert back to a previous version, it doesn't help me with the writing of the readme.

Jim - how about a quick "11f.1"?

05-04-2010, 10:41 PM	#81
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	I would like a greyish lavender colour for the digital clock. Between the candy pink and aubergine. A nice subtle colour. All the other things I asked so far have been just me repeating what other people said. I really would like this colour. Run you clever boy. And remember...

05-04-2010, 10:55 PM	#82
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Sounds dreadful. Give me RGB values, and I'll put it in. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-04-2010, 11:29 PM	#83
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	161/135/167 Thanks Jim. It shall forever be known as dreadful Nicki lavender Run you clever boy. And remember...

05-05-2010, 09:55 AM	#87
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	Maybe I chose one that's too subtle. You're right Jim it looks pretty bad. Is 119/83/108 any better? Run you clever boy. And remember...

05-05-2010, 12:40 PM	#90
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	OK, we'll forget the dreadful lavenders then. Though I still might consider it for my bedroom walls. Thanks for taking the time to look into it. Run you clever boy. And remember...

05-05-2010, 05:03 AM	#85
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: That's a really bad color. It hardly shows up at all. Would it make a difference if you were using a dark, background lighting selection?

05-05-2010, 07:00 AM	#86
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I'm not going to spend time on anything fancy, but I could change individual colors if you have a suggestion. They may seem close on some monitors, but the RGB values of these colors are really quite far apart. When I was first adding the digital clock, I was experimenting with a blue-green color that closeley matched a digital clock I had. Everyone absolutely hated the color. So I added a but more blue, and suddenly stopped getting complaints. Yet these two colors are probably the closest together of any in the current selections. No problem, Jim. Dreadful Nicki Lavender does appear light when using a light and bright background, but so may some of the other colors. Sometimes a dclock/cal color may simply be too close to the background color to show up well. With 15 choices, a user should be able to pick something that looks acceptable. Thank you for at least giving us some choices and the opportunity to voice our opinions.

05-05-2010, 10:14 AM	#88
Splashy Registered Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 51	Hi, just wanted to report that beta11f works perfectly on my Windows 7x64 system. I really like the changes and they work well. Looking forward to the next version :-)

05-05-2010, 08:07 PM	#91
Gat Registered Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Hi, With the ability to change colors of the tank I was wondering how hard it would be to be able to link this with the time on the computer so you could have the color change with the time. ie day to night. I am not sure if this can be done with ease or is a hugh project. Oh, by the way, Beta 11F is working fine on Windows XP and Vista premium 64. Have tested on both>

05-05-2010, 10:04 PM	#92
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	In the software business, we call this "feature creep", where one feature leads to another, and you end up never getting anything done. Right now, I need to concentrate on finishing the etched-font for the digital clock, and sending the package off to Prolific so that the cast-of-thousands can start working on all the translations, Mac version, hardcopy version, packaging, website changes, etc. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-06-2010, 04:55 PM	#93
Gat Registered Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Hi Mr. Sachs, Thanks for the quick response. I do understand the problems with getting a program done and out on the market and was just making a quick suggesting. I love your program the way it is and think you've done an outstanding job but just thought that was an idea to maybe work on down the road. Thanks again for getting right back to me. Keep up the good work. Gat

05-21-2010, 02:42 PM	#94
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Minor "bug" / annoyance with the Music / Sounds feature. I normally do not have either the music or bubble sound on. While testing the music playback screen (for the readme file) I added some MP3s to test it. Not only did the MP3 play, but the Bubble sound activated, too! Anyone else getting this on 11f? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

05-21-2010, 03:20 PM	#95
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by JohnWho: Minor "bug" / annoyance with the Music / Sounds feature. I normally do not have either the music or bubble sound on. While testing the music playback screen (for the readme file) I added some MP3s to test it. Not only did the MP3 play, but the Bubble sound activated, too! Anyone else getting this on 11f? Please describe exactly, step by step, what you did. I tried to duplicate what you said. Including starting conditions. A. Started MA3 from the desktop icon, pressed space, clicked Music Playlist. B. Note: I normally do not have either sound on, so I didn't touch that (didn't open Program Settings panel at all). C. I added an MP3 to the music list (it already had 4 things in it). D. Clicked OK (twice). Music didn't play, bubbles didn't make a sound. (I do have the bubble column "on", by the way). Pressed space bar, clicked program settings, and verified that neither box was checked. I'm sure I'm missing something?

05-21-2010, 03:32 PM	#96
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Dale - After adding a few MP3s, in the Playlist screen I played part of a song or two and then "OK"-ed out of the screen. I then heard both the music and the bubbles and discovered that both were now checked in "Program Settings". I, too, have the Bubble Column on. Odd. I've just tried and I can not duplicate this. If I do, I'll make another note of it. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

05-21-2010, 10:07 PM	#97
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	First 2 Lines Comment Jim, it's a bug that should be fixed. Beta 11f, and I can't see how this could be due to Windows 7. Originally posted by JohnWho: Dale - After adding a few MP3s, in the Playlist screen I played part of a song or two and then "OK"-ed out of the screen. I then heard both the music and the bubbles and discovered that both were now checked in "Program Settings". I, too, have the Bubble Column on. Odd. I've just tried and I can not duplicate this. If I do, I'll make another note of it. OK, the thing I hadn't done was "Play". I can duplicate this with the music, repeatedly and precisely, without adding or removing anything. I currently have 7 items in my music playlist - CanonGuitar.sgt plus one .mid, one .wav, and four .mp3s Started MA3 using the desktop icon. A. Confirm in Program Settings that "Music" is not checked. B. Open Music Playlist, highlight anything (CanonGuitar.sgt will do), and click Play. C. Click on OK - note that the Settings panel comes up, and the music plays. D. Look in Program Settings, and note that "Music" is now checked. The various other logical tests (clicking stop, exiting, etc. etc.) don't change that. Confirmed the same behavior using the other two ways of starting MA3. Did not do any testing in windowed mode, though. I did not ever observe the bubble sound turning on, though.

05-21-2010, 11:37 PM	#98
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Playing music turns on the Music. If the bubble sound comes on at the same time, that would be a bug. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-22-2010, 06:46 AM	#99
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Yes, and while I'm certain it happened, I can not repeat it. Unless someone else reports it (or it happens again to me), I guess I'd suggest you file it away in the "quirk" file. I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!

05-22-2010, 06:51 AM	#100
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Uh oh - it appears 11f has expired. While I can revert back to a previous version, it doesn't help me with the writing of the readme. Jim - how about a quick "11f.1"? I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!