Developer Notes - Page 5

feldon34 · 11-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Here's the Marine Aquarium 3 Registry Cleaner script. It should leave MA1, 2, and 2.6 behind.

I also posted a fish picker cleaner script in the announcement/release thread.

DaleArden · 11-10-2008, 03:39 PM

Not sure where this puts me in the debate , but precisely because of Marine Aquarium and Dream Aquarium , I'm thinking about getting a second monitor . Right now , I have to use a CRT tv for the second screen , which is neat to the unitinitiated ( ie my family ) , but after buying a graphics card for my old desktop and seeing what an improvement that made I find that I want more . Just waiting for the boxing day sales to get the best possible deal . I'll need advice of course , and will post in the appropriate thread .

P.S. Jim , spiders ... nasty . Although I get them when I'm asleep .

Jim Sachs · 11-10-2008, 03:52 PM

I was asleep - I just didn't realize it until I looked at my code this morning.

Jim Sachs · 11-11-2008, 05:02 PM

I've added a few features and fixed a few bugs. Would you guys like me to upload the changes now or wait until I've done some more before releasing Beta6?

Changes include:
1. A hard-coded font for the Fishpicker interface which SHOULD fix the unintended re-sizing of the fish chart.
2. Added a PanSpeed control, which is remembered. AutoPan On/Off is also remembered.
3. Added a Window Reset Location feature. Whenever the window gets too far off-screen to grab, just press CTRL-C to bring it back to the upper-left corner.
4. Another experiment to fix the "bubble sound starts loud" problem. It works here, but so did the old way.
5. Changed the Aquarium window behavior so that passing the mouse over it won't grab focus.

cjmaddy · 11-11-2008, 06:37 PM

For me? - wait until you've done some more.

troyb · 11-11-2008, 09:40 PM

I agree waite until you have done some more and you are ready

Dale · 11-11-2008, 10:01 PM

It's really hard to judge, when most of us don't have any clue about how many things are on your "to do" list - or indeed how many pages there are for that list.

I think I would prefer to see some "major feature" in the next Beta release - but I'm not qualified to judge because I don't have good information.

So, I would say that you should release Beta versions when you think it's the right time.

StuDisney · 11-12-2008, 07:06 AM

I think there should be at least a week between beta releases, so that we all have enough time to see if there are any problems

cjmaddy · 11-12-2008, 07:26 AM

At this stage of testing, a day or so is usually more than enough.
Now that, "5: Window behaviour", has been added to the list, and if the bezel adjustment is still causing problems, then a 5b Beta might be appropriate?

Jav400 · 11-12-2008, 07:38 AM

The 5a designator was my doing when I made the post. It made sense to me at the time since it had to do with the same beta, only partly removed, and Jim didn't rename the file anyhow. So I needed some way to distinguish them.

Jim get's the privilege of naming the files, I just had to change it slightly in that instance.

Tarkus · 11-12-2008, 08:31 AM

Yeah, I say one/week is plenty, so I don't mind waiting for the normal schedule.

Jim Sachs · 11-12-2008, 11:10 AM

I had still named that latest version MA3Beta.zip so that it would replace the broken one of the same name, and no one could accidentally download the wrong one. Once you run it, you'd notice in the Statistics text that it is called 5a.

Regarding the window behavior, several people have suggested that the Aquarium window should never steal focus, and I have been experimenting with this for several hours. They are right - there don't seem to be any real problems, so the change will be in Beta6.

Jim Sachs · 11-12-2008, 11:45 AM

OK, I decided to upload Beta6 after all. There are several changes (listed above in message 84), and I need to make sure I didn't introduce any new bugs before I move on to working on the crystal.

http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

In the Program Settings box, there is an item called "Dummy", which is just a place-holder for something which will be added next time. It currently has no function, but if you are a dummy, feel free to checkmark the box

patscarr · 11-12-2008, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

In the Program Settings box, there is an item called "Dummy", which is just a place-holder for something which will be added next time. It currently has no function, but if you are a dummy, feel free to checkmark the box

Done!

Jav400 · 11-12-2008, 01:18 PM

Nope you're slow, I already did and was wondering what it was for LOL

rctneil · 11-12-2008, 03:44 PM

patscarr, have you got a larger version of your avatar?

feldon34 · 11-12-2008, 04:34 PM

A Brief Google Search reveals:
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/cooldo...r%20scream.jpg

rps · 11-12-2008, 05:14 PM

>>2. ... AutoPan On/Off is also remembered.

This is great, and I love that this has been added, but... would it be possible for it to remember where it is has panned to? eg: I invoke the screen saver, turn off the auto pan, and manually adjust the left-right with the arrow keys; the next time it kicks in, it's not panning, but it's been reset all the way to the left.

Why is this important? I have dual monitors; in the absence of the bevel adjustment, my preferred viewpoint is to pan it to the right until the bezels lie between the cave opening and the pink brain coral. Right at that point, there's almost nothing getting "split", and this minimizes the visual discrepancies caused by the lack of a bevel adjustment. (see attached image) Once I've adjusted it, it would be nice if MA3 could remember that spot.

Thanks,
Ralph S.

Jim Sachs · 11-12-2008, 05:18 PM

OK.

majalid · 11-18-2008, 11:37 AM

MA3 looks amazing on my 22" Samsung T220. It is better than having a real aquarium! Can't wait for new fish models with better AI!

Ideas:
- light rays?
- tiny floating particles (maybe micro bubbles) that appear to be randomly drifting
- reflective, shiny fishes:

(http://www.digifish.us/aquagarden/ag_infor.htm)

11-10-2008, 01:47 PM	#81
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Here's the Marine Aquarium 3 Registry Cleaner script. It should leave MA1, 2, and 2.6 behind. I also posted a fish picker cleaner script in the announcement/release thread. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-10-2008, 03:52 PM	#83
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I was asleep - I just didn't realize it until I looked at my code this morning. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-11-2008, 05:02 PM	#84
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I've added a few features and fixed a few bugs. Would you guys like me to upload the changes now or wait until I've done some more before releasing Beta6? Changes include: 1. A hard-coded font for the Fishpicker interface which SHOULD fix the unintended re-sizing of the fish chart. 2. Added a PanSpeed control, which is remembered. AutoPan On/Off is also remembered. 3. Added a Window Reset Location feature. Whenever the window gets too far off-screen to grab, just press CTRL-C to bring it back to the upper-left corner. 4. Another experiment to fix the "bubble sound starts loud" problem. It works here, but so did the old way. 5. Changed the Aquarium window behavior so that passing the mouse over it won't grab focus. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 11-12-2008 at 11:45 AM.

11-12-2008, 07:06 AM	#88
StuDisney Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WDW/Orlando Fl. Posts: 44	I think there should be at least a week between beta releases, so that we all have enough time to see if there are any problems "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." “Growing Old is Mandatory - Growing Up Is Optional”

11-12-2008, 07:38 AM	#90
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	The 5a designator was my doing when I made the post. It made sense to me at the time since it had to do with the same beta, only partly removed, and Jim didn't rename the file anyhow. So I needed some way to distinguish them. Jim get's the privilege of naming the files, I just had to change it slightly in that instance. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

11-10-2008, 03:39 PM	#82
DaleArden carbon based unit Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 24	Not sure where this puts me in the debate , but precisely because of Marine Aquarium and Dream Aquarium , I'm thinking about getting a second monitor . Right now , I have to use a CRT tv for the second screen , which is neat to the unitinitiated ( ie my family ) , but after buying a graphics card for my old desktop and seeing what an improvement that made I find that I want more . Just waiting for the boxing day sales to get the best possible deal . I'll need advice of course , and will post in the appropriate thread . P.S. Jim , spiders ... nasty . Although I get them when I'm asleep .

11-11-2008, 06:37 PM	#85
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	For me? - wait until you've done some more.

11-11-2008, 09:40 PM	#86
troyb Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 36	I agree waite until you have done some more and you are ready

11-11-2008, 10:01 PM	#87
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	It's really hard to judge, when most of us don't have any clue about how many things are on your "to do" list - or indeed how many pages there are for that list. I think I would prefer to see some "major feature" in the next Beta release - but I'm not qualified to judge because I don't have good information. So, I would say that you should release Beta versions when you think it's the right time.

11-12-2008, 07:26 AM	#89
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	At this stage of testing, a day or so is usually more than enough. Now that, "5: Window behaviour", has been added to the list, and if the bezel adjustment is still causing problems, then a 5b Beta might be appropriate?

11-12-2008, 08:31 AM	#91
Tarkus Shark Bytes Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 158	Yeah, I say one/week is plenty, so I don't mind waiting for the normal schedule.

11-12-2008, 11:10 AM	#92
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I had still named that latest version MA3Beta.zip so that it would replace the broken one of the same name, and no one could accidentally download the wrong one. Once you run it, you'd notice in the Statistics text that it is called 5a. Regarding the window behavior, several people have suggested that the Aquarium window should never steal focus, and I have been experimenting with this for several hours. They are right - there don't seem to be any real problems, so the change will be in Beta6. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-12-2008, 11:45 AM	#93
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	OK, I decided to upload Beta6 after all. There are several changes (listed above in message 84), and I need to make sure I didn't introduce any new bugs before I move on to working on the crystal. http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip In the Program Settings box, there is an item called "Dummy", which is just a place-holder for something which will be added next time. It currently has no function, but if you are a dummy, feel free to checkmark the box Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-12-2008, 01:11 PM	#94
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: In the Program Settings box, there is an item called "Dummy", which is just a place-holder for something which will be added next time. It currently has no function, but if you are a dummy, feel free to checkmark the box Done! Patrick

11-12-2008, 01:18 PM	#95
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Nope you're slow, I already did and was wondering what it was for LOL Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

11-12-2008, 03:44 PM	#96
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	patscarr, have you got a larger version of your avatar?

11-12-2008, 04:34 PM	#97
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	A Brief Google Search reveals: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/cooldo...r%20scream.jpg "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-12-2008, 05:18 PM	#99
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	OK. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-18-2008, 11:37 AM	#100
majalid Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2	MA3 looks amazing on my 22" Samsung T220. It is better than having a real aquarium! Can't wait for new fish models with better AI! Ideas: - light rays? - tiny floating particles (maybe micro bubbles) that appear to be randomly drifting - reflective, shiny fishes: (http://www.digifish.us/aquagarden/ag_infor.htm)