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Digital Lungfish · 09-14-2002, 05:58 PM

Ahhhh, the NDA, gotta love and hate it. Oh well, it was worth a try.

By the way Jim, I posted a question to you a while ago over at -

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...7584#post17584

but you never replied to it. So if you have a spare moment, I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!

Gregw74 · 10-01-2002, 09:59 AM

Jim, I'm reluctant to ask, but dying at the same time. Some details on your current progress would be great. Or, a progress report on any of your other projects would be nice also. What is done so far and what still needs work? Thank you, and keep up the great work!!

Jim Sachs · 10-01-2002, 06:32 PM

Currently I'm in a dry spell, or artist's block trying to get the background right in the freshwater tank. I've got a fairly large tank sitting next to my computer desk, and I keep re-positioning everything in it, but haven't gotten it right yet.

feldon34 · 10-01-2002, 06:35 PM

Have you created any fish?

Jim Sachs · 10-01-2002, 08:49 PM

A neon tetra. The irridescent blue-green actually works pretty well, but those guys are really SMALL. My plan is to allow a pair of the smaller fish to count as one. Even so, the wide variation in the size of freshwater fish is proving to be a major problem.

feldon34 · 10-01-2002, 09:08 PM

Which is where you turn over the collision detection algorithyms to Prolific. It is, in my opinion, grunt work. The animation will always be Jim Sachs animation. But collision detection, it's time better spent on other things, in my opinion.

If you have a fish with a texture on it, in a "finished" state, you can imagine that a picture of it would be appreciated.

Gregw74 · 10-01-2002, 09:33 PM

Just a snip of a screenshot containing a finished fish would be very cool. Sounds like you have a long road ahead. Thanks for the update. As feldon mentioned, is it possible for Prolific to tackle the collision detection so you can harness your energy elsewhere?

It's like we're a pack of hungry dogs out here awaiting a big meal from Jim. Some crumbs here and there is all we need in the meantime.

Jim Sachs · 10-02-2002, 12:14 AM

Hmmmm, I'm not sure if a few crumbs will satisfy a pack of hungry dogs. Seems like it would provoke a feeding frenzy.

Not sure how we got onto collision detection, but I'm not working on that. Prolific has been working on it for some time.

feldon34 · 10-02-2002, 12:59 AM

Even so, the wide variation in the size of freshwater fish is proving to be a major problem.

I interpreted this as you having to worry about the size of the fish.

Yellow Tang · 10-02-2002, 01:54 AM

NO!!! Please Jim, do not give us any pictures of your new challange, i would like to have an awesome moment, when i will see the COMPLETE version of the new SS the first time.

Thank you!

memilm · 10-02-2002, 02:36 AM

How about 2 freshwater aquariums, one with many small species(like tetras, swordfish ...) and another with big ones (like angelfish).

hpman77 · 10-02-2002, 05:28 AM

I would love to see at least a picture of your *real* fresh water tank, Jim

IMHO we all would be satisfied with a picture or a few words about what you're doing from time to time. A picture of your tank (even if you're changing it very often) or a screenshot of that finished fish or... well, anything

Jim Sachs · 10-02-2002, 07:32 AM

Size of the fish - What I meant was the little ones just don't show up very well. In the saltwater aquarium, some people complain about the Royal Gramma and Clownfish being rather small. Well, the Neon Tetra is about 1/4 that size, yet has a lot of detail. Very frustrating to put all that effort into something that only shows up as a few pixels on the screen.

Liath · 10-02-2002, 07:52 AM

I had wondered how you were going to deal with size issues. A small school of the little guys treated as one individual would be nice. And please, don't give in to pressures of the fans. We are all very excited about your new release, and we're behaving like children on Christmas morning. Good luck getting through this background problem. I'm sure it will be great.

handimannbob · 10-02-2002, 08:07 PM

hi jim,
you said you have artist's block on background of freshwater aquarium. does that mean you will do 3-d background on freshwater before saltwater ? you might have mentioned this before, but i missed it.
thanks

Yellow Tang · 05-07-2003, 07:04 AM

Quite quiet at the moment here in this forum?

Ok, we all know, it's done when it's done. But when is that?

Any progress news, everything ok Jim?

Jim Sachs · 05-07-2003, 08:46 AM

Yes, I've been making good progress on the Freshwater Aquarium lately. The treasure chest is done, and bubbling happily away. The Cardinal Tetras are glowing nicely. Working on the gravel today.

Liath · 05-07-2003, 09:23 AM

Woohoo!

Socrates · 05-07-2003, 10:48 AM

OK, now I can get a little more excited.

feldon34 · 05-07-2003, 11:11 AM

The treasure chest and bubbles I've seen

, the cardinal tetra, I haven't.

Jim, if you get a chance, hit PrintScrn on that thing.

My reactions when Frank (FishyBusiness) and I first saw the Freshwater, in sequence:

1st bubble
That looks pretty cool.

2nd bubble
Wait, the bubbles look completely different.

3rd bubble
Ok, this is serious.

4th bubble
Hey, are those pearls 3D modeled?

5th bubble
The lighting under the lid is so perfect as the lid opens and closes.

6th bubble
Ok, I can't tell how the bubbles are being done, I've got to find out.

7th bubble
Wow, the bubbles are coming out from under the lid perfectly. I am totally believing this.

The Cardinal Tetra will be quite the fish to see, IMO. Jim and I talked at length about specular lighting and pondering why no-one has used it to the same effect as Jim has.

The Goldfish would benefit massively if the scales were reflective.

09-14-2002, 05:58 PM	#81
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	Ahhhh, the NDA, gotta love and hate it. Oh well, it was worth a try. By the way Jim, I posted a question to you a while ago over at - https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...7584#post17584 but you never replied to it. So if you have a spare moment, I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks! Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...

10-01-2002, 06:32 PM	#83
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Currently I'm in a dry spell, or artist's block trying to get the background right in the freshwater tank. I've got a fairly large tank sitting next to my computer desk, and I keep re-positioning everything in it, but haven't gotten it right yet. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-01-2002, 06:35 PM	#84
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Have you created any fish? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-01-2002, 08:49 PM	#85
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	A neon tetra. The irridescent blue-green actually works pretty well, but those guys are really SMALL. My plan is to allow a pair of the smaller fish to count as one. Even so, the wide variation in the size of freshwater fish is proving to be a major problem. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-01-2002, 09:08 PM	#86
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Which is where you turn over the collision detection algorithyms to Prolific. It is, in my opinion, grunt work. The animation will always be Jim Sachs animation. But collision detection, it's time better spent on other things, in my opinion. If you have a fish with a texture on it, in a "finished" state, you can imagine that a picture of it would be appreciated. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-01-2002, 09:59 AM	#82
Gregw74 Registered Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 6	Jim, I'm reluctant to ask, but dying at the same time. Some details on your current progress would be great. Or, a progress report on any of your other projects would be nice also. What is done so far and what still needs work? Thank you, and keep up the great work!!

10-01-2002, 09:33 PM	#87
Gregw74 Registered Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 6	Just a snip of a screenshot containing a finished fish would be very cool. Sounds like you have a long road ahead. Thanks for the update. As feldon mentioned, is it possible for Prolific to tackle the collision detection so you can harness your energy elsewhere? It's like we're a pack of hungry dogs out here awaiting a big meal from Jim. Some crumbs here and there is all we need in the meantime.

10-02-2002, 12:14 AM	#88
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Hmmmm, I'm not sure if a few crumbs will satisfy a pack of hungry dogs. Seems like it would provoke a feeding frenzy. Not sure how we got onto collision detection, but I'm not working on that. Prolific has been working on it for some time. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 10-02-2002 at 12:16 AM.

10-02-2002, 12:59 AM	#89
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Even so, the wide variation in the size of freshwater fish is proving to be a major problem. I interpreted this as you having to worry about the size of the fish. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-02-2002, 01:54 AM	#90
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	NO!!! Please Jim, do not give us any pictures of your new challange, i would like to have an awesome moment, when i will see the COMPLETE version of the new SS the first time. Thank you!

10-02-2002, 02:36 AM	#91
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	How about 2 freshwater aquariums, one with many small species(like tetras, swordfish ...) and another with big ones (like angelfish).

10-02-2002, 05:28 AM	#92
hpman77 Blue Angel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Santander (Spain) Posts: 285	I would love to see at least a picture of your real fresh water tank, Jim IMHO we all would be satisfied with a picture or a few words about what you're doing from time to time. A picture of your tank (even if you're changing it very often) or a screenshot of that finished fish or... well, anything .:: AMD Athlon XP 1700+ :: 512MB SDRAM :: Windows XP SP1 :: shappire ATI radeon 9600 PRO :: Soundblaster Live Player 5.1 :: Directx 9.0 :: (Always latest drivers for everything) ::.

10-02-2002, 07:32 AM	#93
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Size of the fish - What I meant was the little ones just don't show up very well. In the saltwater aquarium, some people complain about the Royal Gramma and Clownfish being rather small. Well, the Neon Tetra is about 1/4 that size, yet has a lot of detail. Very frustrating to put all that effort into something that only shows up as a few pixels on the screen. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-02-2002, 07:52 AM	#94
Liath Still here in spirit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 637	I had wondered how you were going to deal with size issues. A small school of the little guys treated as one individual would be nice. And please, don't give in to pressures of the fans. We are all very excited about your new release, and we're behaving like children on Christmas morning. Good luck getting through this background problem. I'm sure it will be great. Liath Appleton University of Michigan Museum of Zoology My Homepage Why I've been gone

10-02-2002, 08:07 PM	#95
handimannbob what's up doc ? Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: millbrae,ca Posts: 410	hi jim, you said you have artist's block on background of freshwater aquarium. does that mean you will do 3-d background on freshwater before saltwater ? you might have mentioned this before, but i missed it. thanks bob

05-07-2003, 07:04 AM	#96
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	Quite quiet at the moment here in this forum? Ok, we all know, it's done when it's done. But when is that? Any progress news, everything ok Jim?

05-07-2003, 08:46 AM	#97
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Yes, I've been making good progress on the Freshwater Aquarium lately. The treasure chest is done, and bubbling happily away. The Cardinal Tetras are glowing nicely. Working on the gravel today. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-07-2003, 10:48 AM	#99
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	OK, now I can get a little more excited. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

05-07-2003, 11:11 AM	#100
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The treasure chest and bubbles I've seen , the cardinal tetra, I haven't. Jim, if you get a chance, hit PrintScrn on that thing. My reactions when Frank (FishyBusiness) and I first saw the Freshwater, in sequence: 1st bubble That looks pretty cool. 2nd bubble Wait, the bubbles look completely different. 3rd bubble Ok, this is serious. 4th bubble Hey, are those pearls 3D modeled? 5th bubble The lighting under the lid is so perfect as the lid opens and closes. 6th bubble Ok, I can't tell how the bubbles are being done, I've got to find out. 7th bubble Wow, the bubbles are coming out from under the lid perfectly. I am totally believing this. The Cardinal Tetra will be quite the fish to see, IMO. Jim and I talked at length about specular lighting and pondering why no-one has used it to the same effect as Jim has. The Goldfish would benefit massively if the scales were reflective. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman