Marine Aquarium 3 Rumors and Speculation - Page 55

grape_jellyfish · 02-02-2008, 12:19 PM

That wouldn't stop another thread from being started elsewhere.

Ad_Enuff · 02-02-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by grape_jellyfish:

That wouldn't stop another thread from being started elsewhere.

That's why I suggested a Blog previously......then Jim can post what he wants when he wants, disable comments and also post video bits.

Jim Sachs · 02-02-2008, 12:35 PM

Here you go.

patscarr · 02-02-2008, 12:58 PM

Wow! Jim, you are just full of surprises! First you were working with deadlines, then you gave an actual release date, and now you are posting screen shots of a work in progress! All things you have never done in the past. Now I am convinced that your wife or daughter is logging in to this forum using your ID.

ESHIREY · 02-02-2008, 01:03 PM

I never thought you would do it.

Ad_Enuff · 02-02-2008, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Here you go.

OOOOoo! I've gone all clammy with excitement!

debavocet · 02-02-2008, 02:56 PM

Jim, thanks for the screenshot.
More, more!

Marian Nichols · 02-02-2008, 03:01 PM

Can't wait for the new version, beautiful.

Wizwad · 02-02-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by patscarr:

Wow! Jim, you are just full of surprises! First you were working with deadlines, then you gave an actual release date, and now you are posting screen shots of a work in progress! All things you have never done in the past. Now I am convinced that your wife or daughter is logging in to this forum using your ID.

It's the Stepford Jim! Everyone, be afraid! Be VERY afraid!

drfish · 02-03-2008, 07:11 AM

Wow, I too never thought that would happen...

nicksteel · 02-03-2008, 08:30 AM

Now, that's 3D!

"Are we there yet?"

Stew2000 · 02-03-2008, 08:32 AM

I like that it's a slice of what's to come

Jim Sachs · 02-03-2008, 02:01 PM

If you notice that the fish in that picture aren't quite as realistic as in the old program, it's because they don't have proper lighting yet. This means that the only shading is that which is drawn into the actual texture. The new fish will be able to bank and rotate in ways which they never could before, so the shaded areas must correspond with this. Before, the program simply turned on dynamic lighting, so shading and specular effects were automatic. But now, all "lighting" is done in Vertex Shaders, and I'm still struggling with the concept. I am able to combine the texture and lightplay in one rendering pass, but so far haven't been able to add diffuse lighting or specular effects. I could do it by making two rendering passes for each fish, but this really slows down the program. That is the area I'm working on today.

Tiny Turtle · 02-03-2008, 02:55 PM

That's what I like so much about you, mr. Sachs - no shortcuts! Sure it might take a while to finish the product, but I'd rather have that than what some of the competitors churn out which looks good at a first glance but almost always flawed in at least some way when you look closer...

Andrew Jenkins · 02-03-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

If you notice that the fish in that picture aren't quite as realistic as in the old program, it's because they don't have proper lighting yet. This means that the only shading is that which is drawn into the actual texture. The new fish will be able to bank and rotate in ways which they never could before, so the shaded areas must correspond with this. Before, the program simply turned on dynamic lighting, so shading and specular effects were automatic. But now, all "lighting" is done in Vertex Shaders, and I'm still struggling with the concept. I am able to combine the texture and lightplay in one rendering pass, but so far haven't been able to add diffuse lighting or specular effects. I could do it by making two rendering passes for each fish, but this really slows down the program. That is the area I'm working on today.

...When you read notes like this you realise that there's MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE & I suspect many final touches before the master is happy with his piece of work.

Thanks all the same for the preview... have to get back to thinking about my wishlist now!

jmsquared · 02-04-2008, 11:44 AM

Jim, your work is just unbelievable. I sometimes feel I should have a towel handy in case my monitor starts to leak! Yes your work is that realistic. People should be happy you are willing and able to share your talents. Besides the expectations are half the fun!

Stew2000 · 02-04-2008, 11:47 AM

If this is going to be more 3D then MA2, will it have an optional 'Top Down' view?

Jim Sachs · 02-04-2008, 12:15 PM

The camera angle has to be tightly controlled to maintain realism. The scene scrolls back and forth, but the camera angle cannot change. Even with this restriction, the Beta testers have been finding lots of holes for me to fix.

Allowing the camera angle to change would increase the work to create this little "universe" by tenfold. Then we would be looking at 50 years instead of 5.

dare2001 · 02-06-2008, 02:49 AM

Jim,
keep up the great work.
MA3 will be the bomb

jleslie · 02-06-2008, 01:30 PM

Um, doesn't 5 years mean it was out last year? Did I miss it ;-)
I know, I know...

02-02-2008, 12:19 PM	#1081
grape_jellyfish Registered Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,235	That wouldn't stop another thread from being started elsewhere. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's learning to Dance in the Rain.

02-02-2008, 12:26 PM	#1082
Ad_Enuff Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 99	Originally posted by grape_jellyfish: That wouldn't stop another thread from being started elsewhere. That's why I suggested a Blog previously......then Jim can post what he wants when he wants, disable comments and also post video bits. AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 3600.0 MHz, 16Gb DDR4 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 4Gb RAM, Windows 10 PRO 64Bit

02-02-2008, 12:58 PM	#1084
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Wow! Jim, you are just full of surprises! First you were working with deadlines, then you gave an actual release date, and now you are posting screen shots of a work in progress! All things you have never done in the past. Now I am convinced that your wife or daughter is logging in to this forum using your ID. Patrick

02-02-2008, 01:03 PM	#1085
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	I never thought you would do it. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

02-02-2008, 01:05 PM	#1086
Ad_Enuff Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 99	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Here you go. OOOOoo! I've gone all clammy with excitement! AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 3600.0 MHz, 16Gb DDR4 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 4Gb RAM, Windows 10 PRO 64Bit

02-02-2008, 02:56 PM	#1087
debavocet Welcome to the Quack House! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 56	Jim, thanks for the screenshot. More, more!

02-02-2008, 03:01 PM	#1088
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02-02-2008, 03:16 PM	#1089
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Originally posted by patscarr: Wow! Jim, you are just full of surprises! First you were working with deadlines, then you gave an actual release date, and now you are posting screen shots of a work in progress! All things you have never done in the past. Now I am convinced that your wife or daughter is logging in to this forum using your ID. It's the Stepford Jim! Everyone, be afraid! Be VERY afraid! Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

02-03-2008, 07:11 AM	#1090
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Wow, I too never thought that would happen... I don't watch commercials.

02-03-2008, 08:30 AM	#1091
nicksteel Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Mississippi (and no, I don't watch FOX!) Posts: 244	Now, that's 3D! "Are we there yet?" Last edited by nicksteel; 02-03-2008 at 10:21 AM.

02-03-2008, 08:32 AM	#1092
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	I like that it's a slice of what's to come

02-03-2008, 02:01 PM	#1093
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	If you notice that the fish in that picture aren't quite as realistic as in the old program, it's because they don't have proper lighting yet. This means that the only shading is that which is drawn into the actual texture. The new fish will be able to bank and rotate in ways which they never could before, so the shaded areas must correspond with this. Before, the program simply turned on dynamic lighting, so shading and specular effects were automatic. But now, all "lighting" is done in Vertex Shaders, and I'm still struggling with the concept. I am able to combine the texture and lightplay in one rendering pass, but so far haven't been able to add diffuse lighting or specular effects. I could do it by making two rendering passes for each fish, but this really slows down the program. That is the area I'm working on today. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-03-2008, 02:55 PM	#1094
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	That's what I like so much about you, mr. Sachs - no shortcuts! Sure it might take a while to finish the product, but I'd rather have that than what some of the competitors churn out which looks good at a first glance but almost always flawed in at least some way when you look closer... Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

02-03-2008, 03:56 PM	#1095
Andrew Jenkins Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Posts: 18	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: If you notice that the fish in that picture aren't quite as realistic as in the old program, it's because they don't have proper lighting yet. This means that the only shading is that which is drawn into the actual texture. The new fish will be able to bank and rotate in ways which they never could before, so the shaded areas must correspond with this. Before, the program simply turned on dynamic lighting, so shading and specular effects were automatic. But now, all "lighting" is done in Vertex Shaders, and I'm still struggling with the concept. I am able to combine the texture and lightplay in one rendering pass, but so far haven't been able to add diffuse lighting or specular effects. I could do it by making two rendering passes for each fish, but this really slows down the program. That is the area I'm working on today. ...When you read notes like this you realise that there's MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE & I suspect many final touches before the master is happy with his piece of work. Thanks all the same for the preview... have to get back to thinking about my wishlist now!

02-04-2008, 11:44 AM	#1096
jmsquared Registered Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Door County, Wisconsin Posts: 8	Jim, your work is just unbelievable. I sometimes feel I should have a towel handy in case my monitor starts to leak! Yes your work is that realistic. People should be happy you are willing and able to share your talents. Besides the expectations are half the fun!

02-04-2008, 11:47 AM	#1097
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	If this is going to be more 3D then MA2, will it have an optional 'Top Down' view?

02-04-2008, 12:15 PM	#1098
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The camera angle has to be tightly controlled to maintain realism. The scene scrolls back and forth, but the camera angle cannot change. Even with this restriction, the Beta testers have been finding lots of holes for me to fix. Allowing the camera angle to change would increase the work to create this little "universe" by tenfold. Then we would be looking at 50 years instead of 5. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-06-2008, 02:49 AM	#1099
dare2001 Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 8	Jim, keep up the great work. MA3 will be the bomb

02-06-2008, 01:30 PM	#1100
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	Um, doesn't 5 years mean it was out last year? Did I miss it ;-) I know, I know...