Marine Aquarium 3 Beta INSTALLER test - Page 6

Rob62 · 01-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by JamesGreystone:

Ah I remember the days when WWW was just a myth, it was all text and newsgroups. You went to a store to make purchases. Now it's insane, making purchases from the Iphone, Web sites secure not secured. Sometime I miss the simpler days......

You and I both - Sometimes in SO many ways... including when a man's worth was judged by his actions and what was in his heart, verses now - when the only judgment seems to come from what he has in his pocketbook - regardless of how he has obtained it...

POSITIVE MORALS EVERYONE!!

~ God Bless ALL ~ Rob

Andrew Jenkins · 01-29-2009, 05:11 PM

Works fine for me...

OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Version 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer TOSHIBA
System Model EQUIUM P200
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz, 1733 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date TOSHIBA V1.40, 26/04/2007
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6001.18000"
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 1.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 0.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 280 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.23 GB
Available Virtual Memory 890 MB
Page File Space 1.28 GB

Rainyfly · 01-30-2009, 01:39 AM

Hi Jim,

The installer worked fine on my laptop with Vista. I hadn't put 2.6 or any of the beta versions on this machine, so it was a brand new install.

It worked like a bought one!

Many thanks,
Lorraine

STEVEPOON · 01-30-2009, 08:18 AM

No problem in Japanese Window XP, too.

troyb · 01-30-2009, 09:33 AM

I just bought 3.0 for my sister inlaw no problems works great

windows xp pro s/p 3
radeon 9600 pro

Dale · 01-30-2009, 12:35 PM

I would like to test the latest version of the installer. I'm willing to purchase the MA3 upgrade to do that, if it has a different (later) installer than Beta8K-with-installer.

Does the version supplied with the upgrade that I can buy from SereneScreen have a "later" installer than the one available for download at http://www.fish-byte.com/images/MarineAquarium3.exe -- or is it exactly the same thing?

[I'm assuming that the $ simulator is identical to Beta8K]

Jim Sachs · 01-30-2009, 12:48 PM

Yes, the official version at SereneScreen.com is Beta8k, identical to the version at my site (which I'm removing - thanks for reminding me).

markknight · 01-30-2009, 01:18 PM

Hi gang

First of all thank you all for being so diligent in testing as well as helping me work out any issues with the installer. Yes I am the one responsible for it be it good or bad.

Sorry for taking so long to get back to answering issues here...my Mother has been in CCU/ICU for the last week and was just removed from life support yesterday. Not because it's all over but because she is actually recovering, although slowly.

I will go to the beginning of this thread and answer anything I can. Sorry if I repeat an answer that Jim or others may have already provided.

I know for a fact (as I have done it myself many times building the installer)
1) Vista 64 has issues. Most are due to the way it was designed by MS. Vista will battle any "over-rides" we try unless we toggle security and elevate the user. I do not like that idea so there is an additional step required by the user. It is simple.
2) If you see any unexpected results it is usually because of a previous installation that is hiding or stuck in the registry. I will help everyone that has this problem seeing I have done it myself. In most cases the installer will clean all previous installations when uninstalled.
3) For anyone playing with Windows 7 Beta...it works great! Microsoft is listening to customer complaints about Vista in general and I for one will upgrade to Win 7 once released.
Mark

markknight · 01-30-2009, 01:27 PM

One more thing gang...a biggie
Depending on which beta version you have used ever, search your drive!

1) *.scr
2) *.lst

The search mechanism in Windows is not what it once was so it may not be completely accurate.
If you have unexpected results one of the old versions is lingering. The play list has been moved and all registry settings are based on the CURRENT scr name.

Any questions just ask!
Mark

henemly · 01-30-2009, 01:58 PM

Thanks for the info, Mark. Glad yer Mother is doing better.

markknight · 01-30-2009, 02:48 PM

Dale,
Please let me know if I miss any of your previous questions as I will cut to the chase..

The term "upgrade" may not have been the best and I agree is misleading. MA3 is NOT an "upgrade" to 2.6 it is a complete revision. A true upgrade would have a revision number such as 2.6.1 or 2.7 etc.

MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way.

The term "upgrade" was used so that anyone falling into the category of free or lower-priced would lock on to the concept and do so. (Please remember, not everyone in the world is a intelligent as the group here. We had to appeal to the masses and help them understand)
The only common factor is that it should install into the same program folder as anything else SereneScreen.

markknight · 01-30-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by cjmaddy:

Those looking for this version of MA3 in \Display Properties\Screen Saver, should note that it appears there as SereneScreen Marine Aquarium, NOT Marine Aquarium 3. - I think it would have been better had it been with the other MA savers, and called 'Marine Aquarium 3'.

It should be MarineAquarium3.
If you see anything else either another version may exist

cjmaddy · 01-30-2009, 04:09 PM

Mark, - I have uninstalled then reinstalled Beta8k-with-installer, - I still have no Marine Aquarium 3 in the Display Properties Screen Saver list. Only older MA versions, together with a SereneScreen Marine Aquarium.

Xylem · 01-30-2009, 04:39 PM

C-

I had that problem, too. If you have Vista 64, it can be solved by right-clicking the MA3 desktop icon and selecting 'Install.' Did it for me, hopefully for you, too.

edit: sorry. I may have misunderstood you. My screensaver list says Serenscreen Marine Aquarium, too. Not Marine Aquarium 3.

Dale · 01-30-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by markknight:

Dale,
Please let me know if I miss any of your previous questions as I will cut to the chase..

The term "upgrade" may not have been the best and I agree is misleading. MA3 is NOT an "upgrade" to 2.6 it is a complete revision. A true upgrade would have a revision number such as 2.6.1 or 2.7 etc.

MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way.

The term "upgrade" was used so that anyone falling into the category of free or lower-priced would lock on to the concept and do so. (Please remember, not everyone in the world is a intelligent as the group here. We had to appeal to the masses and help them understand)
The only common factor is that it should install into the same program folder as anything else SereneScreen.

Thanks for the verification. I've purchased the "upgrade" and will install it on a few varied systems over the next week or so. I anticipate it will work just fine, but I'll report any glitches, etc.

cjmaddy · 01-30-2009, 05:00 PM

Xylem,
This is strange. MarineAquarium3.scr is in my System32 folder, but not present in the Display Properties Screen Saver list. - Right-clicking/installing from the desktop icon, makes no difference. - In the Display Properties Screen Saver list MA3 is called SereneScreen Marine Aquarium
I am using Win2kPro SP4, BTW.

Edgar · 01-30-2009, 05:12 PM

It sounds like Win2K is cutting off the name.

cjmaddy · 01-30-2009, 05:15 PM

Check back to Xylem's edit! .... Vista 64 is doing the same.

theOLDone · 01-30-2009, 05:39 PM

MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way.

He's right, I took ma2.5 and ma3 started them both and put them in the window and they ran well sitting next to each other.

cjmaddy · 01-30-2009, 05:51 PM

Yes. but it's taken an awfully long time, and endless repetition, to convince some that it was so!

01-30-2009, 09:33 AM	#105
troyb Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 36	I just bought 3.0 for my sister inlaw no problems works great windows xp pro s/p 3 radeon 9600 pro Last edited by troyb; 01-30-2009 at 02:11 PM.

01-30-2009, 12:48 PM	#107
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, the official version at SereneScreen.com is Beta8k, identical to the version at my site (which I'm removing - thanks for reminding me). Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-30-2009, 02:48 PM	#111
markknight Prolific Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 21	Dale, Please let me know if I miss any of your previous questions as I will cut to the chase.. The term "upgrade" may not have been the best and I agree is misleading. MA3 is NOT an "upgrade" to 2.6 it is a complete revision. A true upgrade would have a revision number such as 2.6.1 or 2.7 etc. MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way. The term "upgrade" was used so that anyone falling into the category of free or lower-priced would lock on to the concept and do so. (Please remember, not everyone in the world is a intelligent as the group here. We had to appeal to the masses and help them understand) The only common factor is that it should install into the same program folder as anything else SereneScreen. Mark Knight MIS Specialist

01-30-2009, 03:25 PM	#112
markknight Prolific Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 21	Originally posted by cjmaddy: Those looking for this version of MA3 in \Display Properties\Screen Saver, should note that it appears there as SereneScreen Marine Aquarium, NOT Marine Aquarium 3. - I think it would have been better had it been with the other MA savers, and called 'Marine Aquarium 3'. It should be MarineAquarium3. If you see anything else either another version may exist Mark Knight MIS Specialist

01-30-2009, 05:12 PM	#117
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	It sounds like Win2K is cutting off the name. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

01-29-2009, 04:45 PM	#101
Rob62 Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 62	Originally posted by JamesGreystone: Ah I remember the days when WWW was just a myth, it was all text and newsgroups. You went to a store to make purchases. Now it's insane, making purchases from the Iphone, Web sites secure not secured. Sometime I miss the simpler days...... You and I both - Sometimes in SO many ways... including when a man's worth was judged by his actions and what was in his heart, verses now - when the only judgment seems to come from what he has in his pocketbook - regardless of how he has obtained it... POSITIVE MORALS EVERYONE!! ~ God Bless ALL ~ Rob

01-29-2009, 05:11 PM	#102
Andrew Jenkins Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Posts: 18	Works fine for me... OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium Version 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Manufacturer TOSHIBA System Model EQUIUM P200 System Type X86-based PC Processor Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz, 1733 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date TOSHIBA V1.40, 26/04/2007 SMBIOS Version 2.4 Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2 Locale United Kingdom Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6001.18000" Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 1.00 GB Total Physical Memory 0.99 GB Available Physical Memory 280 MB Total Virtual Memory 2.23 GB Available Virtual Memory 890 MB Page File Space 1.28 GB

01-30-2009, 01:39 AM	#103
Rainyfly Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 31	Hi Jim, The installer worked fine on my laptop with Vista. I hadn't put 2.6 or any of the beta versions on this machine, so it was a brand new install. It worked like a bought one! Many thanks, Lorraine

01-30-2009, 08:18 AM	#104
STEVEPOON Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 41	No problem in Japanese Window XP, too.

01-30-2009, 12:35 PM	#106
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	I would like to test the latest version of the installer. I'm willing to purchase the MA3 upgrade to do that, if it has a different (later) installer than Beta8K-with-installer. Does the version supplied with the upgrade that I can buy from SereneScreen have a "later" installer than the one available for download at http://www.fish-byte.com/images/MarineAquarium3.exe -- or is it exactly the same thing? [I'm assuming that the $ simulator is identical to Beta8K]

01-30-2009, 01:18 PM	#108
markknight Prolific Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 21	Hi gang First of all thank you all for being so diligent in testing as well as helping me work out any issues with the installer. Yes I am the one responsible for it be it good or bad. Sorry for taking so long to get back to answering issues here...my Mother has been in CCU/ICU for the last week and was just removed from life support yesterday. Not because it's all over but because she is actually recovering, although slowly. I will go to the beginning of this thread and answer anything I can. Sorry if I repeat an answer that Jim or others may have already provided. I know for a fact (as I have done it myself many times building the installer) 1) Vista 64 has issues. Most are due to the way it was designed by MS. Vista will battle any "over-rides" we try unless we toggle security and elevate the user. I do not like that idea so there is an additional step required by the user. It is simple. 2) If you see any unexpected results it is usually because of a previous installation that is hiding or stuck in the registry. I will help everyone that has this problem seeing I have done it myself. In most cases the installer will clean all previous installations when uninstalled. 3) For anyone playing with Windows 7 Beta...it works great! Microsoft is listening to customer complaints about Vista in general and I for one will upgrade to Win 7 once released. Mark

01-30-2009, 01:27 PM	#109
markknight Prolific Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 21	One more thing gang...a biggie Depending on which beta version you have used ever, search your drive! 1) .scr 2) .lst The search mechanism in Windows is not what it once was so it may not be completely accurate. If you have unexpected results one of the old versions is lingering. The play list has been moved and all registry settings are based on the CURRENT scr name. Any questions just ask! Mark

01-30-2009, 01:58 PM	#110
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Thanks for the info, Mark. Glad yer Mother is doing better.

01-30-2009, 04:09 PM	#113
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Mark, - I have uninstalled then reinstalled Beta8k-with-installer, - I still have no Marine Aquarium 3 in the Display Properties Screen Saver list. Only older MA versions, together with a SereneScreen Marine Aquarium.

01-30-2009, 04:39 PM	#114
Xylem Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belleville, Michigan Posts: 68	C- I had that problem, too. If you have Vista 64, it can be solved by right-clicking the MA3 desktop icon and selecting 'Install.' Did it for me, hopefully for you, too. edit: sorry. I may have misunderstood you. My screensaver list says Serenscreen Marine Aquarium, too. Not Marine Aquarium 3.

01-30-2009, 04:41 PM	#115
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by markknight: Dale, Please let me know if I miss any of your previous questions as I will cut to the chase.. The term "upgrade" may not have been the best and I agree is misleading. MA3 is NOT an "upgrade" to 2.6 it is a complete revision. A true upgrade would have a revision number such as 2.6.1 or 2.7 etc. MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way. The term "upgrade" was used so that anyone falling into the category of free or lower-priced would lock on to the concept and do so. (Please remember, not everyone in the world is a intelligent as the group here. We had to appeal to the masses and help them understand) The only common factor is that it should install into the same program folder as anything else SereneScreen. Thanks for the verification. I've purchased the "upgrade" and will install it on a few varied systems over the next week or so. I anticipate it will work just fine, but I'll report any glitches, etc.

01-30-2009, 05:00 PM	#116
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Xylem, This is strange. MarineAquarium3.scr is in my System32 folder, but not present in the Display Properties Screen Saver list. - Right-clicking/installing from the desktop icon, makes no difference. - In the Display Properties Screen Saver list MA3 is called SereneScreen Marine Aquarium I am using Win2kPro SP4, BTW.

01-30-2009, 05:15 PM	#118
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Check back to Xylem's edit! .... Vista 64 is doing the same.

01-30-2009, 05:39 PM	#119
theOLDone Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: north of seattle Posts: 6	MA3 is a standalone product with no ties to any previous version. MA3 will run along side of eariler versions and not disrupt them in any way. He's right, I took ma2.5 and ma3 started them both and put them in the window and they ran well sitting next to each other.

01-30-2009, 05:51 PM	#120
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Yes. but it's taken an awfully long time, and endless repetition, to convince some that it was so!