Wishlist for Marine Aquarium 3 and Future - Page 63

GreenHsiF · 05-25-2005, 10:38 PM

I thought that each creatures pack was going to have like four regular fish and two strange looking fish that was going to be made for the 3-D aquarium?

Jav400 · 05-26-2005, 05:02 AM

The creature packs are AFTER this part.

BigBass · 07-07-2005, 04:25 PM

Hey, I am new to this, have not even got the full version yet, but plan to soon. I have looked at a few virtual aquariums, and this is by far the best. I few things I'd like to see, and may have already been suggested possibly, but:

1. The ability to make it my background on the desktop, and not just a screen saver. I got this from the AquaReal screen saver. Their graphics are inferior to SereneScreen, but i like that feature.

2. 3D backgrounds...probably available on the full version, but I do like them a little better.

3. I know you plan to add a feature to feed the fish, but other ways to interact with them too would be nice. Again, the AquaReal gives you that and the ability to "tickle" the fish. It's pretty cool, but again I do not want that program because they do not have the graphics your program has.

4. Although out of character and completely unnatural, I think it'd be cool to have a largemouth bass in my saltwater virtual aquarium.

I'll post more ideas as I think of them. For now...later guys.

Wizwad · 07-07-2005, 05:06 PM

Hi BigBass.

The question you have to ask yourself is: Would you find a largemouth bass (or any other fish - a basking shark, say) in your *average* tropical saltwater aquarium. If the answer is, "No" then you can pretty much take it as read that it's not going to appear here. After all, this is a simulation of an average (well, maybe a bit above average) aquarium.

To the other questions, I'll let the administrators give the standard responses to those; you're not the first to ask, though, and will not be the last...

Hope you have fun on the forum, though, even if the answers to these questions are not what you might hope.

ESHIREY · 07-07-2005, 05:08 PM

Yes, Welcome to the forums.

feldon34 · 07-07-2005, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by BigBass:

1. The ability to make it my background on the desktop, and not just a screen saver. I got this from the AquaReal screen saver. Their graphics are inferior to SereneScreen, but i like that feature.

Not gonna happen.

Originally posted by BigBass:

2. 3D backgrounds...probably available on the full version, but I do like them a little better.

In development.

johnblommers · 07-07-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by BigBass:

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1. The ability to make it my background on the desktop, and not just a screen saver. I got this from the AquaReal screen saver. Their graphics are inferior to SereneScreen, but i like that feature.
...

So I run BackLight 2.0 which lets me choose any screen saver and make it wallpaper on my desktop. It even works under Tiger. But I fear that you posted here because you run Wintel. So an alternative is to press the "f" key when you're previewing the windows screensaver and make a screen grab of the resulting window, and use that image as desktop wallpaper. Damn but it does make a fine wallpaper

With some fiddling with Active Desktop, you may be able to do some cool stuff with a small library of such screenshots.

Have fun!

- John

PS We like Feldon29 around here because he answers brief and to the point

BigBass · 07-07-2005, 06:21 PM

Hey, I didn't realistically think that you would put a bass in the saltwater aquarium, I was just playing around with that, though I would get a kick out of it if you did (I'm an avid bass fisherman). As for the desktop background, I will look into the program suggested to see if it works. I take it that it would work even with just the free demo version I am currently using? I'll try it to see. Thanks for the warm welcome guys...and I plan to enjoy the forum. Later

Jav400 · 07-07-2005, 06:23 PM

Welcome BB. I love fishing as well, although my time lately, or lack thereof, precludes it happening. Welcome to the forums.

BigBass · 07-07-2005, 06:27 PM

johnblommers, I did a websearch and found the Backlight 2.0 download, but it says it is a MAC program. Do you know of a similar program I can apply to Windows?

johnblommers · 07-07-2005, 07:23 PM

In your shoes I would do a Google search for the phrase "active desktop screensaver" and try a few of them to see if they allow an arbitrary screen saver to be run.

- John

BigBass · 07-07-2005, 07:46 PM

I'll try that...thanx John

Tarkus · 07-07-2005, 08:11 PM

You might want to give 3d Animated Wallpaper a try. I haven't yet tried it with SereneScreen, but I seem to recall some people having success, albeit with a heavy CPU hit.

feldon34 · 07-07-2005, 10:09 PM

Running SereneScreen Marine Aquarium as a backdrop will never be officially supported. It's not a screen saver. It's a moving piece of art.

BigBass · 07-11-2005, 03:26 PM

I have tried a few things, but with no success thus far. I am running Windows 98, and it seems that all the available screensaver/desktop programs require a newer version of Windows to run on. I'll just wait until I get a new computer with a newer version of Windows before worrying anymore about applying it as wallpaper

. As for my previous comment about a bass...maybe it can be the inspiration for another project...a North American Gamefish screensaver that has various bass, trout, crappie, sunfish, pike, and catfish. That'd be pretty cool down the road. I did send in a coule of photos recently for a monk fish for the Marine Aquarium. Kind of an ugly fella, but that light on top of his head could create a neat special effect when the scene goes dark in the "nighttime" mode. I like the ideas others have submitted on the creature wishlist page, and hope many of them make their way into the Marine Aquarium. Later guys!

bk119 · 09-16-2005, 06:07 PM

Hello all. Finally get to post after about 3 months.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned...I didn't feel like reading all 1200+ posts on the subject...but I would like to see more tank themes\designs to choose from.
I have two tanks here at home (freshwater) and I design new tank themes on occasion just to break the monotony and to keep algi from starting.

schneb · 09-30-2005, 10:25 AM

This is what I would like to see...

A gentle, repetitive swaying of the anemones. With todays higher video cards, this should be possible.

Ability to add as many fish as my processor can can handle.

Ability to paste my own background picture. (be nice to have the water reflect over it)

User definable "skidishness" of individual fish (when it gets near another fish, it skidders away).

Someone else mentioned this, and I agree. Fish should be breathing.

Jav400 · 09-30-2005, 10:54 AM

1) Jim is planning a new 3D background that will include moving anemones.

2) Your processor isn't the hold up to more fish, realism is. To many will cause pass throughs in the collision avoidence routines and totally destroy the effect.

3) Probably isn't going to happen.

4-5) Individual fish will have their own characteristics fitting with the species, not user definable, and be "breathing".

schneb · 09-30-2005, 12:58 PM

That all sounds good. One more for the list...

I would like to see a fish scaler (no, I don't want them cleaned). On small monitors, my fish do not look to size, and therefore, not real. A fish scaler would increase their size until they are correct according to the monitor. If collision and all that are a problem with this idea, the amount of fish can be reduced as you increase the size and vise verse.

Jim Sachs · 09-30-2005, 09:13 PM

I'd have to come up with a MUCH better collision algorithm in order to make the fish bigger. Already, the larger fish can have a pass-through with each other or the background if in tight quarters.

(Very funny line about the fish-scaler, by the way.)

05-26-2005, 05:02 AM	#1242
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	The creature packs are AFTER this part. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

07-07-2005, 05:06 PM	#1244
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Hi BigBass. The question you have to ask yourself is: Would you find a largemouth bass (or any other fish - a basking shark, say) in your average tropical saltwater aquarium. If the answer is, "No" then you can pretty much take it as read that it's not going to appear here. After all, this is a simulation of an average (well, maybe a bit above average) aquarium. To the other questions, I'll let the administrators give the standard responses to those; you're not the first to ask, though, and will not be the last... Hope you have fun on the forum, though, even if the answers to these questions are not what you might hope. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

07-07-2005, 05:08 PM	#1245
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Yes, Welcome to the forums. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

07-07-2005, 05:09 PM	#1246
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by BigBass: 1. The ability to make it my background on the desktop, and not just a screen saver. I got this from the AquaReal screen saver. Their graphics are inferior to SereneScreen, but i like that feature. Not gonna happen. Originally posted by BigBass: 2. 3D backgrounds...probably available on the full version, but I do like them a little better. In development. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-07-2005, 06:23 PM	#1249
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Welcome BB. I love fishing as well, although my time lately, or lack thereof, precludes it happening. Welcome to the forums. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

05-25-2005, 10:38 PM	#1241
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	I thought that each creatures pack was going to have like four regular fish and two strange looking fish that was going to be made for the 3-D aquarium?

07-07-2005, 04:25 PM	#1243
BigBass Fish Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5	Hey, I am new to this, have not even got the full version yet, but plan to soon. I have looked at a few virtual aquariums, and this is by far the best. I few things I'd like to see, and may have already been suggested possibly, but: 1. The ability to make it my background on the desktop, and not just a screen saver. I got this from the AquaReal screen saver. Their graphics are inferior to SereneScreen, but i like that feature. 2. 3D backgrounds...probably available on the full version, but I do like them a little better. 3. I know you plan to add a feature to feed the fish, but other ways to interact with them too would be nice. Again, the AquaReal gives you that and the ability to "tickle" the fish. It's pretty cool, but again I do not want that program because they do not have the graphics your program has. 4. Although out of character and completely unnatural, I think it'd be cool to have a largemouth bass in my saltwater virtual aquarium. I'll post more ideas as I think of them. For now...later guys.

07-07-2005, 06:21 PM	#1248
BigBass Fish Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5	Hey, I didn't realistically think that you would put a bass in the saltwater aquarium, I was just playing around with that, though I would get a kick out of it if you did (I'm an avid bass fisherman). As for the desktop background, I will look into the program suggested to see if it works. I take it that it would work even with just the free demo version I am currently using? I'll try it to see. Thanks for the warm welcome guys...and I plan to enjoy the forum. Later

07-07-2005, 06:27 PM	#1250
BigBass Fish Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5	johnblommers, I did a websearch and found the Backlight 2.0 download, but it says it is a MAC program. Do you know of a similar program I can apply to Windows?

07-07-2005, 07:23 PM	#1251
johnblommers The Architect Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 756	In your shoes I would do a Google search for the phrase "active desktop screensaver" and try a few of them to see if they allow an arbitrary screen saver to be run. - John Reasons people don't watch Star Trek: 60% - It’s for nerds. 39% - The show’s stupid. 01% - My parents were killed by Klingons and it's still too painful.

07-07-2005, 07:46 PM	#1252
BigBass Fish Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5	I'll try that...thanx John

07-07-2005, 08:11 PM	#1253
Tarkus Shark Bytes Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 158	You might want to give 3d Animated Wallpaper a try. I haven't yet tried it with SereneScreen, but I seem to recall some people having success, albeit with a heavy CPU hit.

07-07-2005, 10:09 PM	#1254
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Running SereneScreen Marine Aquarium as a backdrop will never be officially supported. It's not a screen saver. It's a moving piece of art. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-11-2005, 03:26 PM	#1255
BigBass Fish Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5	I have tried a few things, but with no success thus far. I am running Windows 98, and it seems that all the available screensaver/desktop programs require a newer version of Windows to run on. I'll just wait until I get a new computer with a newer version of Windows before worrying anymore about applying it as wallpaper . As for my previous comment about a bass...maybe it can be the inspiration for another project...a North American Gamefish screensaver that has various bass, trout, crappie, sunfish, pike, and catfish. That'd be pretty cool down the road. I did send in a coule of photos recently for a monk fish for the Marine Aquarium. Kind of an ugly fella, but that light on top of his head could create a neat special effect when the scene goes dark in the "nighttime" mode. I like the ideas others have submitted on the creature wishlist page, and hope many of them make their way into the Marine Aquarium. Later guys!

09-16-2005, 06:07 PM	#1256
bk119 Registered Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1	Hello all. Finally get to post after about 3 months. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned...I didn't feel like reading all 1200+ posts on the subject...but I would like to see more tank themes\designs to choose from. I have two tanks here at home (freshwater) and I design new tank themes on occasion just to break the monotony and to keep algi from starting.

09-30-2005, 10:25 AM	#1257
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	This is what I would like to see... A gentle, repetitive swaying of the anemones. With todays higher video cards, this should be possible. Ability to add as many fish as my processor can can handle. Ability to paste my own background picture. (be nice to have the water reflect over it) User definable "skidishness" of individual fish (when it gets near another fish, it skidders away). Someone else mentioned this, and I agree. Fish should be breathing.

09-30-2005, 10:54 AM	#1258
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	1) Jim is planning a new 3D background that will include moving anemones. 2) Your processor isn't the hold up to more fish, realism is. To many will cause pass throughs in the collision avoidence routines and totally destroy the effect. 3) Probably isn't going to happen. 4-5) Individual fish will have their own characteristics fitting with the species, not user definable, and be "breathing". Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

09-30-2005, 12:58 PM	#1259
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Scale Dem Fish! That all sounds good. One more for the list... I would like to see a fish scaler (no, I don't want them cleaned). On small monitors, my fish do not look to size, and therefore, not real. A fish scaler would increase their size until they are correct according to the monitor. If collision and all that are a problem with this idea, the amount of fish can be reduced as you increase the size and vise verse.

09-30-2005, 09:13 PM	#1260
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,789	I'd have to come up with a MUCH better collision algorithm in order to make the fish bigger. Already, the larger fish can have a pass-through with each other or the background if in tight quarters. (Very funny line about the fish-scaler, by the way.) Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 10-01-2005 at 12:48 AM.