Sharks: Terrors of the Deep Wishlist - Page 7

Tiny Turtle · 03-25-2004, 07:33 AM

I seem to have started something of a movement here. Nice work YT!

Sergiales · 03-25-2004, 08:06 AM

Interpolation is your friend

cjmaddy · 03-25-2004, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Yellow Tang
I had something like this in my mind (made with SmartMorph, thanks Cliff):

Another satisfied customer!

ps, Nice work!

ROBinLA · 04-02-2004, 02:39 PM

Please please with sugar on top?

patscarr · 04-06-2004, 05:02 AM

I found this picture on Yahoo! of the Okinawa Chura Aquarium in southern Japan. Looks really cool and adds to the point of STotD needing whale sharks.

drfish · 04-06-2004, 06:49 AM

...some day I will go there...

ESHIREY · 04-06-2004, 06:51 AM

Now that's a tank .

Thanks for the pic.

Digital Lungfish · 04-06-2004, 08:53 AM

Wow, that's cool! Oh how I would love to see that in person.

Jav400 · 04-06-2004, 10:31 AM

Ditto, I wonder how many gallons are in that tank?

Tiny Turtle · 04-06-2004, 10:54 AM

Had a talk with Google and we came up with the round figure of 1.7 million gallons of water. Another source claimed it contained 7,500 tonnes of water which would be the same as 7.5 million litres which in turn would mean a gallon was ~4.4 litres – definately feasible numbers.

Apparently the aquarium has the largest piece of acrylic glass panel in the world as the main window:
height: 8.2m/27'
width: 22.5m/75'
thickness: 0.6m/2'(!).

I'm drooling with Doc, btw...

/Tiny Tank

04-06-2004, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the info, Tiny. My question was whether that was all one sheet of acrylic. I guess we haven't perfected transparent aluminum yet.

Tiny Turtle · 04-06-2004, 02:36 PM

Well, technically no (I think). Evidently a Japanese company/inventor has figured out a way to make the glue joint completely transparent. Then again, is it still a "sheet" when it's two feet thick?

/Tiny Thickness

Digital Lungfish · 04-06-2004, 02:40 PM

Even with that much water, as you can see those 2 whale sharks are likely to be juveniles. Still, there's a LOT of fish in there.

Jav400 · 04-06-2004, 03:14 PM

There are formulas already in use that are for joining 2 sheets of that thickness. They don't leave a "totally" invisible joint but they are near that. If you stand right at the joint and look from a diagonal perspective you can still see the seam. Visit a local aquarium near you and you will see what I am talking about.

Tiny Turtle · 04-07-2004, 12:22 AM

DL,
Maybe you could calculate on how many inches of fish one could put in that one

Liath · 04-07-2004, 06:52 AM

I was told (a quick google search provided no info.) that the same Japanese company is responsible for the Monterrey Bay Aquarium. Apparently their "seamless" technique is so secretive, and they kept their work so hidden, that the folks at the aquarium don't even know how it was done.

Reichart · 04-07-2004, 10:08 AM

It is mechanically sealed. Cell phones are starting to use this same technique.
It is not so much a secret as it is simply not that amazing.

A device that directs a very high frequency mechanically bonds to similar materials at the molecular level, sometimes they use heat. It can be stronger than the object itself in some cases. The secret for them is probably the way they apply the heat or agitator to such a large object, which is impressive. But the odds are it is will done the same way, just bigger.

Just search on mechanically bonded or hermetically sealed and you will find lots of articles on it.

SteelJaw · 05-07-2004, 01:11 AM

Greetings all! Hope it's not too late to post here...

I downloaded the beta demo of the Terros of the Deep screensaver, and I like it a lot. I've been obsessed with sharks for /way/ to long, and I've been hunting for something just as this!

A couple things I'd love to see added, if possible:

Common Thresher Shark (Alopias vulpinus)
Sandtiger Shark (Carcharias taurus)
Sandbar Shark (Carcharhinus plumbeus)
Horn Shark (Heterodontus francisci)
Whitespotted Bamboo Shark (Chiloscyllium plagiosum)

[To be honest I was hoping the last two would be included in MA2 or an update for it, at some point. That's what actually lead me to finding TotD ;> ]

I'm also happy to help find or provide references if needed for shark species. I volunteer at an aquarium, and can get loads of pictures/video.

I really like the look of the program so far, and I'm seriously considering purchase after it leaves the beta stage and goes production. The only thing that really bothers me about what I see so far are some anatomical flaws in the shark models. (I'm happy to discuss this further, but I'm a bit nervous, as this is my first post and I don't want to rock the boat with unwanted criticism)

I'll be keeping a close eye on the developments of this project! It's really refreshing and encouraging to see the actual creators, developers and publishers of the software so active here.

Down and gone,

Tiny Turtle · 05-07-2004, 02:43 AM

Hi SteelJaw and welcome aboard!

I think your input on anatomical flaws in the sharks would be appreciated. As you say, the creators are active here and have previously shown terrific interest in what us beta testers have suggested.

/Tiny Thresher

Edgar · 05-07-2004, 07:16 AM

SteelJaw,

Welcome!

You may want to post those flaws now and if possible show the pictures of what it should look like, if you want the changes to make it for the next release.

BTW, buying "Sharks: Terrors of the Deep" while in Beta might be a good idea. The price will go up when it goes to full production.

03-25-2004, 07:33 AM	#121
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I seem to have started something of a movement here. Nice work YT! Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-25-2004, 08:06 AM	#122
Sergiales Software Engineer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 266	Interpolation is your friend Sincerely, Sergio.

04-02-2004, 02:39 PM	#124
ROBinLA Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 101	Any idea when an update for sharks might come? Please please with sugar on top?

04-06-2004, 06:49 AM	#126
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	...some day I will go there... I don't watch commercials.

04-06-2004, 06:51 AM	#127
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Now that's a tank . Thanks for the pic. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

03-25-2004, 01:04 PM	#123
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Originally posted by Yellow Tang I had something like this in my mind (made with SmartMorph, thanks Cliff): Another satisfied customer! ps, Nice work!

04-06-2004, 08:53 AM	#128
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	Wow, that's cool! Oh how I would love to see that in person. Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...

04-06-2004, 10:31 AM	#129
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Ditto, I wonder how many gallons are in that tank? Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

04-06-2004, 10:54 AM	#130
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Had a talk with Google and we came up with the round figure of 1.7 million gallons of water. Another source claimed it contained 7,500 tonnes of water which would be the same as 7.5 million litres which in turn would mean a gallon was ~4.4 litres – definately feasible numbers. Apparently the aquarium has the largest piece of acrylic glass panel in the world as the main window: height: 8.2m/27' width: 22.5m/75' thickness: 0.6m/2'(!). I'm drooling with Doc, btw... /Tiny Tank Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-06-2004, 01:25 PM	#131
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the info, Tiny. My question was whether that was all one sheet of acrylic. I guess we haven't perfected transparent aluminum yet.

04-06-2004, 02:36 PM	#132
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Well, technically no (I think). Evidently a Japanese company/inventor has figured out a way to make the glue joint completely transparent. Then again, is it still a "sheet" when it's two feet thick? /Tiny Thickness Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-06-2004, 02:40 PM	#133
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	Even with that much water, as you can see those 2 whale sharks are likely to be juveniles. Still, there's a LOT of fish in there. Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...

04-06-2004, 03:14 PM	#134
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	There are formulas already in use that are for joining 2 sheets of that thickness. They don't leave a "totally" invisible joint but they are near that. If you stand right at the joint and look from a diagonal perspective you can still see the seam. Visit a local aquarium near you and you will see what I am talking about. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

04-07-2004, 12:22 AM	#135
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	DL, Maybe you could calculate on how many inches of fish one could put in that one Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-07-2004, 06:52 AM	#136
Liath Still here in spirit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 637	I was told (a quick google search provided no info.) that the same Japanese company is responsible for the Monterrey Bay Aquarium. Apparently their "seamless" technique is so secretive, and they kept their work so hidden, that the folks at the aquarium don't even know how it was done. Liath Appleton University of Michigan Museum of Zoology My Homepage Why I've been gone

04-07-2004, 10:08 AM	#137
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	It is mechanically sealed. Cell phones are starting to use this same technique. It is not so much a secret as it is simply not that amazing. A device that directs a very high frequency mechanically bonds to similar materials at the molecular level, sometimes they use heat. It can be stronger than the object itself in some cases. The secret for them is probably the way they apply the heat or agitator to such a large object, which is impressive. But the odds are it is will done the same way, just bigger. Just search on mechanically bonded or hermetically sealed and you will find lots of articles on it. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

05-07-2004, 01:11 AM	#138
SteelJaw Registered Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 6	Greetings all! Hope it's not too late to post here... I downloaded the beta demo of the Terros of the Deep screensaver, and I like it a lot. I've been obsessed with sharks for /way/ to long, and I've been hunting for something just as this! A couple things I'd love to see added, if possible: Common Thresher Shark (Alopias vulpinus) Sandtiger Shark (Carcharias taurus) Sandbar Shark (Carcharhinus plumbeus) Horn Shark (Heterodontus francisci) Whitespotted Bamboo Shark (Chiloscyllium plagiosum) [To be honest I was hoping the last two would be included in MA2 or an update for it, at some point. That's what actually lead me to finding TotD ;> ] I'm also happy to help find or provide references if needed for shark species. I volunteer at an aquarium, and can get loads of pictures/video. I really like the look of the program so far, and I'm seriously considering purchase after it leaves the beta stage and goes production. The only thing that really bothers me about what I see so far are some anatomical flaws in the shark models. (I'm happy to discuss this further, but I'm a bit nervous, as this is my first post and I don't want to rock the boat with unwanted criticism) I'll be keeping a close eye on the developments of this project! It's really refreshing and encouraging to see the actual creators, developers and publishers of the software so active here. Down and gone, ~SteelJaw "[Las Vegas] is a city built on the broad shoulders of bad math." --Penn Jillette of Penn and Teller

05-07-2004, 02:43 AM	#139
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Hi SteelJaw and welcome aboard! I think your input on anatomical flaws in the sharks would be appreciated. As you say, the creators are active here and have previously shown terrific interest in what us beta testers have suggested. /Tiny Thresher Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

05-07-2004, 07:16 AM	#140
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	SteelJaw, Welcome! You may want to post those flaws now and if possible show the pictures of what it should look like, if you want the changes to make it for the next release. BTW, buying "Sharks: Terrors of the Deep" while in Beta might be a good idea. The price will go up when it goes to full production. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com