Marine Aquarium 3 Rumors and Speculation - Page 83

Perfish · 05-27-2008, 01:02 AM

I love the checkerboardfish (the second to the right).
Our technicians are already samping back the image to its original pixel size. Vision is still fuzzy but things are starting to clear up.

Was it an open space in the forest Jim?

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patscarr · 05-27-2008, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by enigma63941:

You would think that with a smaller tank it wouldn't take that long to complete.

LOL

johnblommers · 05-27-2008, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Perfish:

I love the checkerboardfish (the second to the right).
Our technicians are already samping back the image to its original pixel size. Vision is still fuzzy but things are starting to clear up.

Jim has been a bit of a stinker, as he JPEG-compressed the thumbnail so it has those "bees" along all the sharp edges. Any up-sampling attempts will look like dogfood because the JPG compression artifacts will upscale as well.

That is why the fish looked checkered. I think that little thumbnail is what they call a "sneaky peek."

patscarr · 05-27-2008, 01:50 AM

"Come on Jim, post a real screen shot and let's get the beta testing underway!" says Encore executive.

Wizwad · 05-27-2008, 05:31 AM

And given past input from Encore, would you want to pay attention to them?

Tiny Turtle · 05-27-2008, 07:14 AM

I think Pat's post was the most ironic one I've seen on these forums...

fubarhq · 05-28-2008, 09:30 PM

Jim,

I saw an update in the news page about a "small" upgrade fee for the new MA3.0. Will that still apply to those of us who purchased the screensaver with the "lifetime" upgrades many many many years ago!?

Curious
Dave

Jim Sachs · 05-28-2008, 11:32 PM

Yes, there will be a small upgrade fee for MA3.

"Lifetime" upgrades are an urban myth. What I said was that some upgrades would be free (there were many), and some would not. My original plan was to make the 3D background free, then charge for extra fish. That was when I was the only person involved. Since then, publishers, distributors, store chains, etc., have become involved and now there are dozens of families to feed. I hear that Micosoft will also be charging to upgrade from Vista to Windows 7

Highlander · 05-29-2008, 12:52 AM

People always told me that in the USA things are always BIG (Cars , Burgers , Coca-Cola etc...)

So.... why are the screenshots so tiny ?

Greetings from Belgium

Jim Sachs · 05-29-2008, 01:37 AM

Because I'm getting close to showing you the real thing. Today I got the starfish into the new tank - now to make him able to move around.

Perfish · 05-29-2008, 01:42 AM

Maybe take a big lens to get a wide look on the ultra aquarium.
Momentarely highly compressed. It looks great.

Highlander · 05-29-2008, 02:01 AM

Great

Wizwad · 05-29-2008, 05:26 AM

That's a great update!

Jim, regarding the starfish's roving area, will it be able to crawl over some of the rocks and corals, or will it be confined pretty much to the gravel bed and 'viewing pane' as before?

Jav400 · 05-29-2008, 07:44 AM

Part of the reason for all the coral needing to be made in true 3D was just for this kind of purpose. Yes the starfish will be able to go over/on items, as will other creatures added later.

Jim Sachs · 05-29-2008, 07:47 AM

Initially it may be confined to the gravel, because that's so much easier to program (should be done by tonight). But as the 3D background is brought to life, having the starfish climb the objects will be a top priority.

ESHIREY · 05-29-2008, 09:50 AM

I have a question about the starfish. When he's on the glass will he be able to go all the way up or just so far like he did before? Reason I ask is when I had mine he would go all the way to the top. He would even be part the way out the top.

Jav400 · 05-29-2008, 10:22 AM

Thats a pretty good question Ed. I'm sitting here trying to remember just why it wasn't allowed to go all the way up before, and I got nothing. Maybe it was because it would get in the way of seeing the fish or something, but if thats the only reason, with the other creatures to be added later even if its limited towards the bottom it will be in the way there as well so I don't see why it couldn't go all the way up now.

Unless there was some other reason I can't remember. Maybe it could be a checkbox thing. [] not on the glass; [] 1/2 way up; [] all the way up.

Seems like I do remember Jim saying that he thought he would be able to get to the glass now without darkening the tank to do it.

Wizwad · 05-29-2008, 12:39 PM

I think I can help you out there - it's the same reason for not including the really fantastic fish: even though it happens in real life, you wouldn't believe it in this instance.

Because you can't actually *see* the glass, can't appreciate that it is there, a starfish at the top of the glass would just look like a starfish that was hanging about in water looking sheepish. We would wonder why it doesn't sink back to the sea bed.

When the starfish is lower down, somehow we still believe in the virtual existence of the glass and it looks good.

At least, that's what *I* think!

cjmaddy · 05-29-2008, 12:47 PM

..... Sounds good to me! ...

Jim Sachs · 05-29-2008, 01:32 PM

That's what I think, too.

05-27-2008, 01:02 AM	#1641
Perfish Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4	Checkerboard fish I love the checkerboardfish (the second to the right). Our technicians are already samping back the image to its original pixel size. Vision is still fuzzy but things are starting to clear up. Was it an open space in the forest Jim? [IMG]images/smilies/thumb.gif[/IMG]

05-27-2008, 01:40 AM	#1642
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Originally posted by enigma63941: You would think that with a smaller tank it wouldn't take that long to complete. LOL Patrick

05-27-2008, 01:40 AM	#1643
johnblommers The Architect Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 756	Originally posted by Perfish: I love the checkerboardfish (the second to the right). Our technicians are already samping back the image to its original pixel size. Vision is still fuzzy but things are starting to clear up. Jim has been a bit of a stinker, as he JPEG-compressed the thumbnail so it has those "bees" along all the sharp edges. Any up-sampling attempts will look like dogfood because the JPG compression artifacts will upscale as well. That is why the fish looked checkered. I think that little thumbnail is what they call a "sneaky peek." Reasons people don't watch Star Trek: 60% - It’s for nerds. 39% - The show’s stupid. 01% - My parents were killed by Klingons and it's still too painful.

05-27-2008, 01:50 AM	#1644
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	"Come on Jim, post a real screen shot and let's get the beta testing underway!" says Encore executive. Patrick

05-27-2008, 05:31 AM	#1645
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	And given past input from Encore, would you want to pay attention to them? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

05-27-2008, 07:14 AM	#1646
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I think Pat's post was the most ironic one I've seen on these forums... Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

05-28-2008, 09:30 PM	#1647
fubarhq Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas (NYC born & raised) Posts: 12	Upgrade Cost Jim, I saw an update in the news page about a "small" upgrade fee for the new MA3.0. Will that still apply to those of us who purchased the screensaver with the "lifetime" upgrades many many many years ago!? Curious Dave Dave "no one is worthless, you can always be used as a bad example."

05-28-2008, 11:32 PM	#1648
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Yes, there will be a small upgrade fee for MA3. "Lifetime" upgrades are an urban myth. What I said was that some upgrades would be free (there were many), and some would not. My original plan was to make the 3D background free, then charge for extra fish. That was when I was the only person involved. Since then, publishers, distributors, store chains, etc., have become involved and now there are dozens of families to feed. I hear that Micosoft will also be charging to upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-29-2008, 12:52 AM	#1649
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	People always told me that in the USA things are always BIG (Cars , Burgers , Coca-Cola etc...) So.... why are the screenshots so tiny ? Greetings from Belgium Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups !

05-29-2008, 01:37 AM	#1650
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Because I'm getting close to showing you the real thing. Today I got the starfish into the new tank - now to make him able to move around. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-29-2008, 01:42 AM	#1651
Perfish Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4	Big Maybe take a big lens to get a wide look on the ultra aquarium. Momentarely highly compressed. It looks great.

05-29-2008, 02:01 AM	#1652
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	Great Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups !

05-29-2008, 05:26 AM	#1653
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	That's a great update! Jim, regarding the starfish's roving area, will it be able to crawl over some of the rocks and corals, or will it be confined pretty much to the gravel bed and 'viewing pane' as before? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

05-29-2008, 07:44 AM	#1654
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Part of the reason for all the coral needing to be made in true 3D was just for this kind of purpose. Yes the starfish will be able to go over/on items, as will other creatures added later. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

05-29-2008, 07:47 AM	#1655
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Initially it may be confined to the gravel, because that's so much easier to program (should be done by tonight). But as the 3D background is brought to life, having the starfish climb the objects will be a top priority. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

05-29-2008, 09:50 AM	#1656
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	I have a question about the starfish. When he's on the glass will he be able to go all the way up or just so far like he did before? Reason I ask is when I had mine he would go all the way to the top. He would even be part the way out the top. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

05-29-2008, 10:22 AM	#1657
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Thats a pretty good question Ed. I'm sitting here trying to remember just why it wasn't allowed to go all the way up before, and I got nothing. Maybe it was because it would get in the way of seeing the fish or something, but if thats the only reason, with the other creatures to be added later even if its limited towards the bottom it will be in the way there as well so I don't see why it couldn't go all the way up now. Unless there was some other reason I can't remember. Maybe it could be a checkbox thing. [] not on the glass; [] 1/2 way up; [] all the way up. Seems like I do remember Jim saying that he thought he would be able to get to the glass now without darkening the tank to do it. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

05-29-2008, 12:39 PM	#1658
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	I think I can help you out there - it's the same reason for not including the really fantastic fish: even though it happens in real life, you wouldn't believe it in this instance. Because you can't actually see the glass, can't appreciate that it is there, a starfish at the top of the glass would just look like a starfish that was hanging about in water looking sheepish. We would wonder why it doesn't sink back to the sea bed. When the starfish is lower down, somehow we still believe in the virtual existence of the glass and it looks good. At least, that's what I think! Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

05-29-2008, 12:47 PM	#1659
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	..... Sounds good to me! ...

05-29-2008, 01:32 PM	#1660
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	That's what I think, too. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium