Clams Progress - Page 9

Rick Simon · 04-13-2009, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by rctneil:

The clams look great. ~In full screen mode on my 2 screens the clams are on screen 2 and the shells move but the mantle is static. When i put MA3 into window mode the clams work fine.

I see the same thing here on my third screen (the same one that had trouble with the purple gorgonia). Here's a side-by-side of screenshots to illustrate...

http://webpages.charter.net/rlsimon/clams.jpg

Multi-monitor hell time again?

philosopher · 04-13-2009, 07:01 AM

Jim,

I'm sorry to confirm the same thing. I bring a laptop to work and back. On Easter night I loaded up the new program on my laptop and reported the clams as perfect. At work I have a second monitor I hook up to. On that monitor the clam's movement is stifled. Only the purple clam moves a little - a very small amount. The other two are closed. I also tried setting the "Render the same image on all monitors" checkbox. I get perfect clams on my main screen and the same problem on screen two. If there is any more information that would help please let me know.

ant · 04-13-2009, 07:19 AM

Nice.

loub516 · 04-13-2009, 09:27 AM

Interesting video

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/disc...iant-clam.html

Jim Sachs · 04-13-2009, 10:30 AM

Today I'll be working on getting the clams moving on multiple monitors.

Mikey242 · 04-13-2009, 12:25 PM

Amazing stuff Jim, nice work.

snorkler · 04-13-2009, 07:16 PM

We got CLAMS!!! Thanks Jim!
I wouldn't mind a little more movement from the blue one - but maybe that is how they really move? They are extremely real looking.

Jim Sachs · 04-13-2009, 07:30 PM

The blue one moves about the same as the others if a fish gets near it.

philosopher · 04-13-2009, 09:57 PM

Jim,

I've got two monitors running and the clams look perfect now! All three are moving perfectly on both monitors or stretched across both (clams on monitor two only).

And the vertical sync seems to be working very well for me too.

I know you hear it a lot but, thanks! This is so nice!

Jim Sachs · 04-13-2009, 10:09 PM

Glad to hear it. I'm still not sure what happens with vsync if the two monitors have different refresh rates.

StuDisney · 04-13-2009, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by loub516:

Interesting video

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/disc...iant-clam.html

Seeing this video of real clams make Jim's clame look even better then I thaught.

Mith · 04-14-2009, 02:26 AM

Wow... those are perfect if you ask me. Great work Jim!

rctneil · 04-14-2009, 04:14 AM

Beta 10A looks fantastic and is great to see over both screens with the clams in full working order on the 2nd screen. Heres to new fish models and behaviours shortly! -

streetwolf · 04-14-2009, 09:04 AM

Clams look great. Wonder how they taste?

While the blue clam gets alot of action from the fishes the other two get 'visited' by the fish alot less often therefore very little action from them. I got about 30 fish going.

It's hard to tell how close the fish come to the back two clams but they don't react like the blue clam.

Jim Sachs · 04-14-2009, 09:32 AM

If a fish were to decide to swim directly over all three clams, they would react identically. Most fish move straight across the tank up against the front glass, which takes them near enough to the front clam to trigger it. As more animated items are added to the tank, you will begin to appreciate the fact that there are actions which happen frequently, and others which happen rarely, (and some which almost never happen).

The goal is to keep people interested, no matter how long they've had the Aquarium, "Hey...I never saw THAT before!"

streetwolf · 04-14-2009, 12:06 PM

Good explanation. Can't wait for the treasure chest. ;-)

ESHIREY · 04-14-2009, 12:37 PM

The chest will be in the fresh water tank. As for the dual monitors, I have the same thing. Other then that, they look great Jim.

Thank You.

Ralph · 04-14-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

If a fish were to decide to swim directly over all three clams, they would react identically. Most fish move straight across the tank up against the front glass, which takes them near enough to the front clam to trigger it. As more animated items are added to the tank, you will begin to appreciate the fact that there are actions which happen frequently, and others which happen rarely, (and some which almost never happen).

The goal is to keep people interested, no matter how long they've had the Aquarium, "Hey...I never saw THAT before!"

It might open a can of worms for you... But.. I wish more fish would swim front to back (and back to front) between the coral and the crystal. They currently do to some extent but are always quite high. The clams would get much more of a workout if fish swam closer to "ground" level through this "gap". And.. in general the fish should swim closer to the ground, especially in the clam area.. I know you have had problems with fish submerging.. but

Jim Sachs · 04-14-2009, 09:24 PM

Again, the clams don't have more of a workout because I don't want them to. There will be many things in the tank that will happen only rarely, but when they are all there something rare will be happening most of the time.

Ralph · 04-14-2009, 10:06 PM

What is the next animation you are going to start...

04-13-2009, 07:01 AM	#162
philosopher Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 86	Confirmation Jim, I'm sorry to confirm the same thing. I bring a laptop to work and back. On Easter night I loaded up the new program on my laptop and reported the clams as perfect. At work I have a second monitor I hook up to. On that monitor the clam's movement is stifled. Only the purple clam moves a little - a very small amount. The other two are closed. I also tried setting the "Render the same image on all monitors" checkbox. I get perfect clams on my main screen and the same problem on screen two. If there is any more information that would help please let me know. Sincerely, S. Justin Gengo "Out of chaos comes order." Nietzsche Last edited by philosopher; 04-13-2009 at 08:54 AM.

04-13-2009, 09:27 AM	#164
loub516 Registered Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Savannah, Ga. Posts: 421	Interesting video http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/disc...iant-clam.html LB

04-13-2009, 10:30 AM	#165
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Today I'll be working on getting the clams moving on multiple monitors. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-13-2009, 07:30 PM	#168
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The blue one moves about the same as the others if a fish gets near it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-13-2009, 09:57 PM	#169
philosopher Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 86	Clams on Multi-Monitors Jim, I've got two monitors running and the clams look perfect now! All three are moving perfectly on both monitors or stretched across both (clams on monitor two only). And the vertical sync seems to be working very well for me too. I know you hear it a lot but, thanks! This is so nice! Sincerely, S. Justin Gengo "Out of chaos comes order." Nietzsche

04-13-2009, 06:23 AM	#161
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by rctneil: The clams look great. ~In full screen mode on my 2 screens the clams are on screen 2 and the shells move but the mantle is static. When i put MA3 into window mode the clams work fine. I see the same thing here on my third screen (the same one that had trouble with the purple gorgonia). Here's a side-by-side of screenshots to illustrate... http://webpages.charter.net/rlsimon/clams.jpg Multi-monitor hell time again?

04-13-2009, 07:19 AM	#163
ant Fishy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: An Ant Farm Posts: 35	Nice.

04-13-2009, 12:25 PM	#166
Mikey242 Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 19	Amazing stuff Jim, nice work.

04-13-2009, 07:16 PM	#167
snorkler Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 59	We got CLAMS!!! Thanks Jim! I wouldn't mind a little more movement from the blue one - but maybe that is how they really move? They are extremely real looking.

04-13-2009, 10:09 PM	#170
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Glad to hear it. I'm still not sure what happens with vsync if the two monitors have different refresh rates. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-13-2009, 11:46 PM	#171
StuDisney Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WDW/Orlando Fl. Posts: 44	Originally posted by loub516: Interesting video http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/disc...iant-clam.html Seeing this video of real clams make Jim's clame look even better then I thaught. "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." “Growing Old is Mandatory - Growing Up Is Optional”

04-14-2009, 02:26 AM	#172
Mith Registered Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 140	Wow... those are perfect if you ask me. Great work Jim!

04-14-2009, 04:14 AM	#173
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Beta 10A looks fantastic and is great to see over both screens with the clams in full working order on the 2nd screen. Heres to new fish models and behaviours shortly! -

04-14-2009, 09:04 AM	#174
streetwolf Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Clams look great. Wonder how they taste? While the blue clam gets alot of action from the fishes the other two get 'visited' by the fish alot less often therefore very little action from them. I got about 30 fish going. It's hard to tell how close the fish come to the back two clams but they don't react like the blue clam.

04-14-2009, 09:32 AM	#175
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	If a fish were to decide to swim directly over all three clams, they would react identically. Most fish move straight across the tank up against the front glass, which takes them near enough to the front clam to trigger it. As more animated items are added to the tank, you will begin to appreciate the fact that there are actions which happen frequently, and others which happen rarely, (and some which almost never happen). The goal is to keep people interested, no matter how long they've had the Aquarium, "Hey...I never saw THAT before!" Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-14-2009, 12:06 PM	#176
streetwolf Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Good explanation. Can't wait for the treasure chest. ;-)

04-14-2009, 12:37 PM	#177
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	The chest will be in the fresh water tank. As for the dual monitors, I have the same thing. Other then that, they look great Jim. Thank You.

04-14-2009, 08:24 PM	#178
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: If a fish were to decide to swim directly over all three clams, they would react identically. Most fish move straight across the tank up against the front glass, which takes them near enough to the front clam to trigger it. As more animated items are added to the tank, you will begin to appreciate the fact that there are actions which happen frequently, and others which happen rarely, (and some which almost never happen). The goal is to keep people interested, no matter how long they've had the Aquarium, "Hey...I never saw THAT before!" It might open a can of worms for you... But.. I wish more fish would swim front to back (and back to front) between the coral and the crystal. They currently do to some extent but are always quite high. The clams would get much more of a workout if fish swam closer to "ground" level through this "gap". And.. in general the fish should swim closer to the ground, especially in the clam area.. I know you have had problems with fish submerging.. but

04-14-2009, 09:24 PM	#179
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Again, the clams don't have more of a workout because I don't want them to. There will be many things in the tank that will happen only rarely, but when they are all there something rare will be happening most of the time. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-14-2009, 10:06 PM	#180
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	What is the next animation you are going to start...