1280x1024 Frame Rates

[Tiny Turtle]

Thanks, Will do the next time.

/Calle

[hambone911]

I have an:
Athlon 1.4
768 megs of ram
geforce3 w/ 27.10 drivers

getting 210 fps at 1280x1024

[pseudografx]

Perhaps the 37-38fps maximum is caused by 'Wait for VSync' enabled (37.5 is exactly half of common 75Hz refresh rate). Check refresh rate of your monitor under 1280x1024 DirectX videomode. You should be able to toggle the Wait for VSync option under some Matrox G400 tweaking utility. If you can't do anything about it, you might also try increasing refresh rate (in that resolution, of course) of your monitor to 85Hz or higher, if it can handle such rates.
However, don't think this will blow up your framerates, it might add some 5-10fps.

[bands]

Originally posted by AlgaeWiz
I am running at 1280 x 1024 with no problems and get frame rates between 73 & 78 on a 19 inch screen. But I also have a new loaded Dell 8200.

ya dont need a "loaded Dell ' for high fps... I get 85fps @ 1280x1024

Home built AMD700
Abit k7a
256 (133)
GF2 32
19 sony g400

[drfish]

Athlon 800
Radeon 8500 64meg (retail)
512 RAM

getting ~141fps @ 1600x1200 with vsync off.
I love my 21" screen

-Dr.fish

[huntchucks]

I get 180 fps avg. at 1600 x 1200. It should be noted though, if vsync is enabled, frame rate drops to 75 as it should.

[huntchucks]

OH MY GOD,NO Cammo you have a serious problem there!!!!!!!!!!!

Im running an AMD 900Mhz Thunderbird Athlon with 256Mb Ram & Leadtek Winfast Geforce2 Titanium 19"cheap monitor.. I am getting about 249-256fps running at 1280 x 1024 x 16 if I hit the "f" button for windowed mode I get (1056.32 fps (320x240x32) yes it says one Thousand and fifty six. And its in 32bit? ( I have the ScreenShot if you want it )

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Hey Computer Dude,

How about turning on some fish and the bubble column? If I turn those off I get 240 fps @ 1600 x 1200 and in a 320 x 233 window like your screen capture, I get 1140 fps. Lets try real world results instead of a snow job, huh?

[RadRick]

bench marking a Screen saver .. hehehe.
is there a default setting for number of fish or anything?

I have it set for 7 Fish, (One Random) Bubble Column & Sound on, Automatic lights Off, Direct-X V-Sync Off.

P4 2.0ghz w/GF3 @ 240/500. Ver 23.12 = 180-200fps


Xp 2000+ @ 1700mhz w/GF3 TI200 @ 240/500 ver 23.12 = 230-240fps

Laterz,
rick

[Tiny Turtle]

Basic fact: The screen saver does not look any better with a framerate higer than your monitor's refresh rate. – That's why they put the vsync option there. In a game a certain overhead could be useful as sometimes there is more objects/explosions/whatever on screen simultaneously, which would cause the frame rate to drop temporarily. The aquarium however has a pretty much static frame rate because there's (almost) the same amount of polygons all the time.

A higher refresh rate is something that could be of interest, not because it would allow the computer to show more frames per second, but because it would ensure a more stable image. – You guys don't even bother to mention it...

/Tiny

[drfish]

oh course you can't see more frames than your monitor can draw, but it just fun to let people know where you are performance wise (as you know the whole point of disabling vsync is so you can see what you computer could do without topping out at your refresh rate). my sony e500 has a refresh rate of 85Hz @ 1600x1200. at 800x600 it has 160Hz.

-Dr.Fish

[Tiny Turtle]

That's fun?

[RadRick]

It's a geek thing ...

Frame Rate = Life

if I could overclock/tweak my monitor's refresh rate over the manufacture's Specs (and lock every rate at non-interlaced) I probably would. But really the monitor is not effecting Performance with V-Sync off, so there would be no point. If you were tweaking for image quality, then you would probably do things that would lower Performance or FPS.

It would seem that the Fish like a higher Front Side Bus Clock Speed more than a higher CPU clock speed or memory bandwidth.

rick

[Tiny Turtle]

Interesting with the FSB. What kind of improvements (?) are we talking about? I was under the impression that overclocking the CPU would yield only a marginal improvement compared to what overclocking the vid card could result in.

/Tiny frame rate

[FishyBusiness]

Tiny Turtle,

I agree with you. I have ran the aqaurium at various fps. 85fps looked just as smooth as 250fps.

I wasn't going to post this messege but I notice you are catching up with me as far as posts...hehe

[RadRick]

Interesting with the FSB. What kind of improvements (?) are we talking about?

Not Sure, I can't put my AMD at default FSB right now. it's busy down loading disc 2 of LOTR, so I don't have any default vs. higher FSB comparisons.

But Since my AMD runs the Screen Saver at a higher frame rate than My P4 (with Rdram) even though it has a 300mhz Slower CPU and much less memory bandwidth. I surmised that the Fish Respond to an increased Front Side bus Clock more than Brute processing power. This is actually not unusual for 3D apps. The 3dMark2k1 Bench mark responds the same way. That's why Machines with lower CPU Clock speeds can have higher Score than Machines with Faster CPU.

I didn't really play with the Video card's settings. I just left them at the clock speeds I normally use for game play. Although turning up the P4's GF3 Core and Memory to their Max (255/545) still didn't allow the P4 to run the fish at the 240fps the AMD gets at a lower Video & CPU clock speeds.

if I could overclock the P4's FSB the tables would turn. (intel mthrbrd not overclock friendly)

rick

[Tiny Turtle]

It isn't so much the mobos as the P4 CPU itself that has a locked FSB, right? When you can, try and tweak the vid card a bit (without changing anything else of course) and post the difference, that'd be quite interesting to read about.

/Tiny Difference

[RadRick]

No, the Intel/P4 CPU is Multiplier locked ( So is the AMD XP CPU, but it can be unlocked with a little work). the FSB is controlled by the mthrbrd. Aftermarket mthrbrds give you jumpers and bios settings that can raise and lower the FSB Clock Frequency. this is the easiest and most common way of over clocking. Intel mthrbrds don't give you these options, but 3rd party mthbrds using intel Chipsets do.

The ideal Over clocking (for 3D app Tweaking) is a low Multiplier and high FSB even though the result can be a lower CPU Clock Speed. the higher FSB allows more data to be channeled through the Memory, PCI & AGP Bus. Of course Only Some apps will respond Favorably to this. Applications that rely heavy on Floating point calculations (i.e. Auto-cad, etc) and high memory bandwidth (i.e. video editing, Photoshop,etc.) Don't see near the gain with the higher FSB and will favor huge CPU clock speeds and memory pipe lines instead.

More Testing With AMD & GF3 TI200

Default FSB (133mhz) & Video Card (200/460) = 190fps

Default FSB & GF3 @ 240/500 = 200fps

137mhz FSB & Default Vid Card = 220fps

137mhz FSB & GF3 @ 240/500 = 240fps

137mhz FSB & GF3 @ 247/520 = 244fps


c'ya
rick

[Tiny Turtle]

That's right. My mistake.

/Calle