Beautiful but kills power saving

bucky · 02-06-2002, 08:59 AM

I got my version through the Microsoft Plus pack and apparently anything OpenGL will keep XP from going into powerv saving mode (like Standby). My normal modus operendi is to go into screen saver then into standby if I am away from my computer for an extended period. This is the most beautiful screen saver I jave seen. Too bad I can't use it all he time

bucky

feldon34 · 02-06-2002, 11:16 AM

Hate to say it, but the registered/purchased version of the Aquarium does have full support for EnergyStar power saving.

I'll go ahead and apologize in advance that you had to pay Microsoft $40 for Plus, since it is only the fish demo and a few other things. That was purely Microsoft's decision and SereneScreen doesn't get a cut of it.

Jim Sachs · 02-06-2002, 11:19 AM

The Aquarium is Direct3D, not OpenGL. In the full version of the Aquarium, the Settings screen has a checkbox to enable or disable monitor-sleep.

Last week, Microsoft told us about a bug in their DX8 example code which disabled sleep mode on some computers, especially laptops. The next version we deliver to them will encorporate their fix. I don't know how (or if) they plan to make this bug fix available to current users of their 3-fish demo.

bucky · 02-06-2002, 11:22 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. Now I can buy it. MSFT even has an article in knowledgebase and a tech at msft bolames it on openGL

bucky

bucky · 02-06-2002, 12:32 PM

Jim, I just bouight the retail version. YThe version I have is 0.99 (1.6mb unzipped)and has no monitor/sleep setting to allow power saving

Is there a later version that for some reason is not downloaded automatically? Also I put it in the C:\windows\system32 directory where all the other screen savers are.

thx,

bucky

bucky · 02-06-2002, 01:20 PM

Jim

My apolopgies (too excited Im guess) I found the monitor sleep switch on settinhgs page but it was already unchecked. I will try chekmarking it.

bucky

bucky · 02-06-2002, 02:23 PM

Hi Jim/Feldon,

I guess Jim was right. There is a bug

I tried the monitor switch both checkmarked and uncheckmarked and it will not sleep in either setting. FWIW. This is a Dell 340 workstation, XP Pro and Direct X 8.x 1.8ghz, 512mb rdram.

thx,

bucky

Jim Sachs · 02-06-2002, 03:13 PM

This only happens on certain machines. The fix is included in v1.1, which will be a free download for you.

bucky · 02-06-2002, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

bucky

pipeta · 02-07-2002, 08:55 AM

Jim, do you remember the idea of shoing a message 'press space for menu' which apears the first time the aquarium is used until 'space' is pressed. Did you consider implementing it? Will you?

It seems like many people dont stumble upon the menu fast enough. This would make it easier for everyone.

AlgaeWiz · 02-21-2002, 07:59 PM

I have version 1.1 on a dell 8200 (pentium 4, GForce3) running Windows XP Pro. System Standby still does not work for me when aquarium is running as screensaver.

Jim Sachs · 02-21-2002, 10:02 PM

Well, I was hoping that we had this fixed, but I guess there are still some drivers out there that won't let it go into sleep mode. Works just fine on every machine here and all those at Prolific. Set the Aquarium for 5 minutes, and monitor sleep for 10 minutes, and that's exactly what happens here.

AlgaeWiz · 02-21-2002, 11:15 PM

Jim - I believe you are confusing MONITOR SLEEP with SYSTEM STANDBY. I can get my monitor to sleep, but I would like the whole system to go into low power standby. Works with other screensavers.

Jim Sachs · 02-21-2002, 11:37 PM

Oh, No - all these months we've been talking about 2 different things?

FishyBusiness · 02-21-2002, 11:59 PM

I have tried monitor sleep, system standby, and a combination of both. My system will never go into sleep mode when the aquarium is running. It's has always been like that for ever since I ran the aquarium. It's not any real big deal for me because if I wanted the monitor off, I would just hit the switch

Donna68 · 02-22-2002, 12:25 AM

Hi Jim I just wanted to say WOW! It's amazing! anyone that see's my screensaver all say the same thing..where did you get it ..and how beautiful it is...thanks for all your hard work...

Donna

Jim Sachs · 02-22-2002, 12:31 AM

Thanks, Donna!

Lostboy · 02-22-2002, 07:17 AM

I can’t get my monitor to sleep, or my system to go on standby when the screensaver is running. It’s no big deal to me because I rarely use it, but I just thought I’d let you know.

My system:

WinXP Home Upgrade (but fresh installed)
Pentium 3, 1GHz
Samtron 76v 17inch monitor
Asus v8200 Deluxe GeForce3 Ti200 (23.11 nVidia DetonatorXP drivers)
DirectX 8.1
Screensaver v1.1 w/”Disable monitor sleep mode” unchecked.

Garion · 02-24-2002, 07:41 AM

I'm also having problems with the powersaving not working in v .99L and 1.1 on my system:

Windows XP Professional
Creative Labs Annhilator GTS 2 (64MB)
NVIDIA Reference Drivers v 27.42 (same under 23.11, 23.12)
1280 x 1024 32bit desktop resolution
(screen saver set to use 1280x1024)
512 MB RAM
PIII 1 GHz

02-06-2002, 08:59 AM	#1
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	Beautiful but kills power saving I got my version through the Microsoft Plus pack and apparently anything OpenGL will keep XP from going into powerv saving mode (like Standby). My normal modus operendi is to go into screen saver then into standby if I am away from my computer for an extended period. This is the most beautiful screen saver I jave seen. Too bad I can't use it all he time bucky bucky

02-06-2002, 11:16 AM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Hate to say it, but the registered/purchased version of the Aquarium does have full support for EnergyStar power saving. I'll go ahead and apologize in advance that you had to pay Microsoft $40 for Plus, since it is only the fish demo and a few other things. That was purely Microsoft's decision and SereneScreen doesn't get a cut of it. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-06-2002, 11:19 AM	#3
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The Aquarium is Direct3D, not OpenGL. In the full version of the Aquarium, the Settings screen has a checkbox to enable or disable monitor-sleep. Last week, Microsoft told us about a bug in their DX8 example code which disabled sleep mode on some computers, especially laptops. The next version we deliver to them will encorporate their fix. I don't know how (or if) they plan to make this bug fix available to current users of their 3-fish demo. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-06-2002, 11:22 AM	#4
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	thanks Thanks for the quick reply. Now I can buy it. MSFT even has an article in knowledgebase and a tech at msft bolames it on openGL bucky bucky

02-06-2002, 12:32 PM	#5
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	No Monitor sleep setting Jim, I just bouight the retail version. YThe version I have is 0.99 (1.6mb unzipped)and has no monitor/sleep setting to allow power saving Is there a later version that for some reason is not downloaded automatically? Also I put it in the C:\windows\system32 directory where all the other screen savers are. thx, bucky bucky

02-06-2002, 01:20 PM	#6
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	monitor sleep Jim My apolopgies (too excited Im guess) I found the monitor sleep switch on settinhgs page but it was already unchecked. I will try chekmarking it. bucky bucky

02-06-2002, 02:23 PM	#7
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	Monior sleep Hi Jim/Feldon, I guess Jim was right. There is a bug I tried the monitor switch both checkmarked and uncheckmarked and it will not sleep in either setting. FWIW. This is a Dell 340 workstation, XP Pro and Direct X 8.x 1.8ghz, 512mb rdram. thx, bucky bucky

02-06-2002, 03:13 PM	#8
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	This only happens on certain machines. The fix is included in v1.1, which will be a free download for you. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-06-2002, 03:27 PM	#9
bucky Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	monitor sleep Thanks for the quick reply. bucky bucky

02-07-2002, 08:55 AM	#10
pipeta Royal Gramma Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 146	Jim, do you remember the idea of shoing a message 'press space for menu' which apears the first time the aquarium is used until 'space' is pressed. Did you consider implementing it? Will you? It seems like many people dont stumble upon the menu fast enough. This would make it easier for everyone.

02-21-2002, 07:59 PM	#11
AlgaeWiz Micrasterias Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Adirondack Mountains Posts: 9	Standby not working I have version 1.1 on a dell 8200 (pentium 4, GForce3) running Windows XP Pro. System Standby still does not work for me when aquarium is running as screensaver.

02-21-2002, 10:02 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Well, I was hoping that we had this fixed, but I guess there are still some drivers out there that won't let it go into sleep mode. Works just fine on every machine here and all those at Prolific. Set the Aquarium for 5 minutes, and monitor sleep for 10 minutes, and that's exactly what happens here. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-21-2002, 11:15 PM	#13
AlgaeWiz Micrasterias Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Adirondack Mountains Posts: 9	Jim - I believe you are confusing MONITOR SLEEP with SYSTEM STANDBY. I can get my monitor to sleep, but I would like the whole system to go into low power standby. Works with other screensavers.

02-21-2002, 11:37 PM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Oh, No - all these months we've been talking about 2 different things? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 02-22-2002 at 12:09 AM.

02-21-2002, 11:59 PM	#15
FishyBusiness Registered Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,206	I have tried monitor sleep, system standby, and a combination of both. My system will never go into sleep mode when the aquarium is running. It's has always been like that for ever since I ran the aquarium. It's not any real big deal for me because if I wanted the monitor off, I would just hit the switch Frank

02-22-2002, 12:25 AM	#16
Donna68 Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New York Posts: 31	amazing! Hi Jim I just wanted to say WOW! It's amazing! anyone that see's my screensaver all say the same thing..where did you get it ..and how beautiful it is...thanks for all your hard work... Donna

02-22-2002, 12:31 AM	#17
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Thanks, Donna! Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-22-2002, 07:17 AM	#18
Lostboy SquirrelFish Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 206	I can’t get my monitor to sleep, or my system to go on standby when the screensaver is running. It’s no big deal to me because I rarely use it, but I just thought I’d let you know. My system: WinXP Home Upgrade (but fresh installed) Pentium 3, 1GHz Samtron 76v 17inch monitor Asus v8200 Deluxe GeForce3 Ti200 (23.11 nVidia DetonatorXP drivers) DirectX 8.1 Screensaver v1.1 w/”Disable monitor sleep mode” unchecked.

02-24-2002, 07:41 AM	#19
Garion Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2	1.1 - no powersaving I'm also having problems with the powersaving not working in v .99L and 1.1 on my system: Windows XP Professional Creative Labs Annhilator GTS 2 (64MB) NVIDIA Reference Drivers v 27.42 (same under 23.11, 23.12) 1280 x 1024 32bit desktop resolution (screen saver set to use 1280x1024) 512 MB RAM PIII 1 GHz