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Old 02-18-2009, 02:22 PM   #441
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IF there is a full music picker and logo picker in the Aquarium, then you can be stingy on the format of the playlist file and just reject it if people start putting spaces, commas, etc. where they don't belong.

Would Comma Separated Values format help you?

"Filename.png","10"
"Logo.png","20"
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:29 PM   #442
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Actually, I'm already using commas as the search criteria. I've made a lot of progress in the last couple of hours. I'm now able to read any filename and put the duration into a spinbox for modification. Now I just need to get it back out of the spinbox, convert it back into ASCII, and re-insert it into the text string.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:45 PM   #443
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
I wouldn't need to, since it wouldn't be in human-readable form. The array could just be stored as-is, like the fishset list. No need for complex parsers.  
And if it got corrupted by a crash? Or if somebody used regedit?

Just because something is not "human-readable" - doesn't eliminate the need for checking input for reasonableness.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:57 PM   #444
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Originally posted by Dale:
And if it got corrupted by a crash? Or if somebody used regedit?

Just because something is not "human-readable" - doesn't eliminate the need for checking input for reasonableness.  
I would rather Jim not waste time trying to make the Playlist file format "bulletproof".

Editing the Playlist file is an UNSUPPORTED way of modifying the playlist. The supported, documented way is through the Settings panel.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:00 PM   #445
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I would guess that most programs can be crashed by entering bogus data into their Registry. That's why Windows doesn't come with an icon for Regedit on the desktop.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:31 PM   #446
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If it was me , I would create a backup of the playlist data each time the program was run as a hidden file in the same folder as the original file - simply overwrite the same file every run . So if the user messed up the original file with sloppy editing , it could be restored to a ' last known good configuration ' state . Check for corruption in the main file before it is loaded so that the backup isn't overwritten with bad data , and don't save changes after a crash , and it *should* be okay . Just my 2c .
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:26 PM   #447
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Originally posted by feldon32:
I would rather Jim not waste time trying to make the Playlist file format "bulletproof".

Editing the Playlist file is an UNSUPPORTED way of modifying the playlist. The supported, documented way is through the Settings panel.  
In theory here, I completely agree. [I was just attempting to point out that modifying the registry is equally "unsupported" - and remembering that we have been encouraged elsewhere in this forum to do things to the registry]

There is a balance here between the importance of Jim's work on the features, versus how robust the program is.

As a professional, however, I always encourage folks to check ALL inputs.

But I suspect that Jim is concerned about the workload on Prolific's technical support staff, responding to customer problems. The more "bulletproof" he makes it, the less user "babysitting" is going to be required.

Jim's in the best place to make that decision, of course.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:41 PM   #448
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Butters - if I knew how to make a file hidden, I'd just make the original hidden.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:09 PM   #449
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Just purchased the upgrade and I must say, it's superb. Will updates be offered automatically up to the final version?
Sorry if that information is elsewhere. I'm a bit pressed for time, just thought I'd throw some well-earned compliments in your direction Jim.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:13 PM   #450
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Yes, updates are free through the "final" version of MA3 (and probably a bit past).
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:20 PM   #451
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I guess I have to go looking for them periodically? Or is there a newsletter? I think I subscribed to Prolific & Serene Screen News...can't quite remember actually.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:37 PM   #452
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Originally posted by Ex_Brit:
I guess I have to go looking for them periodically? Or is there a newsletter? I think I subscribed to Prolific & Serene Screen News...can't quite remember actually.  
Follow this link and choose notification by e-mail.

You will receive an e-mail every time there is a new version of the Aquarium to try out.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:11 PM   #453
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Trust me to overlook the obvious. Thanks Jim.

By the way, she works fine in Windows 7 too.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #454
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Butters - if I knew how to make a file hidden, I'd just make the original hidden.  
How "hidden" do you need it to be?

Is it sufficient to have it hidden from the "casual" computer user? (One who has not changed Folder Options)?

Or more obscure than that? Or "totally hidden"?

There are ways to do each of those things (with advantages and disadvantages).
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:24 PM   #455
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Butters - if I knew how to make a file hidden, I'd just make the original hidden.  
Somebody at Prolific should be able to help you with that.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:37 PM   #456
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Dale - hidden enough to stop further complaints on the subject from you.

Patrick - I've just about used up my credits at Prolific.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:28 PM   #457
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Dale - hidden enough to stop further complaints on the subject from you.  
Sorry, I was willing to try to help with your request, if that was possible.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:30 PM   #458
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And what level of invisiblility would satisfy you that the users wouldn't be messing with the file?
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:20 AM   #459
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Jim, awesome job on this program. I downloaded and installed on Vao Laptop with duo core and video card memory of 1750mb. I am running at 1200 x 900 on widescreen in full screen mode. I am only getting 30FPS for frame rate. I have latest video driver. Is this normal for running at this resolution you think?
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:34 AM   #460
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Timelord - might you be a Doctor Who fan ?

30fps does sound wrong . I get up to 83fps (1200x800) on my Compaq single core laptop with Radeon 200M graphics . This is without AA or AF of course . With AA on the frame rate does drop rapidly . What graphics chip do you have , and what do you have your sleep set to ? If you have Vista 64 ultimate , there have been hiccups .
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