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Tornado Tom · 07-07-2003, 10:10 PM

I can hardly wait for fresh stuff. maybe this will the best project yet?

Jim Sachs · 07-08-2003, 01:09 AM

Looking at the 25-gallon aquarium next to my computer, I can tell you that the plants definitely sway in the current without any fish in the tank. Undergravel filters are on their way out -- power heads or canister filters are always recommended now. They provide positive filtration, and a strong flow of water.

To all those who are concerned that the swaying plants will be eerie, monotonous, or unnatural, all I can say is: Don't worry!

cjmaddy · 07-08-2003, 03:39 AM

Thanks Jim!

Sergiales · 07-08-2003, 10:23 AM

Wow Jim! you're really creating a great expectation on your Freshwater Aquarium. Thanks for the news!.

IXNAY · 07-08-2003, 12:54 PM

I could reply every post by Jim with: "can't wait to see it"

clifdene · 07-09-2003, 03:03 AM

I would be very very happy to pay for a Beta of a Beta. What about it Jim?

Marian Nichols · 07-09-2003, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by clifdene
I would be very very happy to pay for a Beta of a Beta. What about it Jim?

You know so would I. Take a poll somebody and find out how many would be willing to do this.

memilm · 07-09-2003, 06:56 AM

Jim, could you post a photo from your tank with freshwater fishes that you used to observe it?

Jim Sachs · 07-09-2003, 08:55 AM

I already have. There are no fish in it yet, just rocks and plants.

Here it is again:
http://www.fish-byte.com/images/freshwater1.jpg

clifdene · 07-09-2003, 12:36 PM

I would very much welcome a reply from Jim to my post!

Jim Sachs · 07-09-2003, 12:57 PM

It will still be some time before a Beta of a Beta (also known as an Alpha build in the software business) will be ready for posting.

Socrates · 07-09-2003, 01:31 PM

I'd pay just to see screen shots of unfinished work and read notes about what the problems have been.

But hasn't Jim said that releasing the unfinished work will either spoil it or create an unreasonable expectation if something has to be redone for some reason?

memilm · 07-09-2003, 01:54 PM

Many thanks for the photo of the tank. It look very acurate and nice.

feldon34 · 07-09-2003, 01:56 PM

A snapshot of the Freshwater, especially the treasure chest and bubbles (The best part of the tank), would not give an impression of how it looks in motion.

Jim videotaped a single large bubble (probably about 1,000 times) in front of a blue screen, cleaned the frames up, and uses this as an animated texture. The bubbles are random sizes playing this animated texture at random speeds. It looks like rolling mercury.

The treasure chest opening and closing (especially the shadows and the 3D realism of the pearl necklace) and the bubbles coming out of the lip of the chest are all perfectly realistic.

It is REALLY convincing.

Socrates · 07-09-2003, 03:28 PM

Ok, then let me revise. I'd pay for a little animated mpeg or avi file

Just being an antsy little pest.

clifdene · 07-10-2003, 04:43 AM

Many thanks Jim. I will try to wait patiently.

richard32 · 07-11-2003, 04:09 PM

this freshwater aquarium cant come soon enough keep the good work up jim.

Jim Sachs · 07-11-2003, 10:44 PM

Thanks, Richard. And thanks for the kiss.

Rich · 07-27-2003, 01:33 AM

hI guys
just wondering, I just read the text of the chat with jim on july 19th?
was still wondering if a siamese fighter(betta) is going to be included in the freshwater aquarium?

and I just bought a powerhead filter and must say its a darn fine little thing...

Jim Sachs · 07-27-2003, 10:24 AM

No Bettas.

07-07-2003, 10:10 PM	#181
Tornado Tom Tommy Turtle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, CA Posts: 78	I can hardly wait for fresh stuff. maybe this will the best project yet? 14 Little Fish Needs A New Larger Aquarium!

07-08-2003, 01:09 AM	#182
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	Looking at the 25-gallon aquarium next to my computer, I can tell you that the plants definitely sway in the current without any fish in the tank. Undergravel filters are on their way out -- power heads or canister filters are always recommended now. They provide positive filtration, and a strong flow of water. To all those who are concerned that the swaying plants will be eerie, monotonous, or unnatural, all I can say is: Don't worry! Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-08-2003, 10:23 AM	#184
Sergiales Software Engineer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 266	Wow Jim! you're really creating a great expectation on your Freshwater Aquarium. Thanks for the news!. Sincerely, Sergio.

07-08-2003, 12:54 PM	#185
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	I could reply every post by Jim with: "can't wait to see it" IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

07-09-2003, 06:04 AM	#187
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	Originally posted by clifdene I would be very very happy to pay for a Beta of a Beta. What about it Jim? You know so would I. Take a poll somebody and find out how many would be willing to do this. Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.

07-08-2003, 03:39 AM	#183
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Thanks Jim!

07-09-2003, 03:03 AM	#186
clifdene Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 168	I would be very very happy to pay for a Beta of a Beta. What about it Jim?

07-09-2003, 06:56 AM	#188
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	Jim, could you post a photo from your tank with freshwater fishes that you used to observe it?

07-09-2003, 08:55 AM	#189
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	I already have. There are no fish in it yet, just rocks and plants. Here it is again: http://www.fish-byte.com/images/freshwater1.jpg Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-09-2003, 12:36 PM	#190
clifdene Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 168	I would very much welcome a reply from Jim to my post!

07-09-2003, 12:57 PM	#191
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	It will still be some time before a Beta of a Beta (also known as an Alpha build in the software business) will be ready for posting. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-09-2003, 01:31 PM	#192
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	I'd pay just to see screen shots of unfinished work and read notes about what the problems have been. But hasn't Jim said that releasing the unfinished work will either spoil it or create an unreasonable expectation if something has to be redone for some reason? Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

07-09-2003, 01:54 PM	#193
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	Many thanks for the photo of the tank. It look very acurate and nice.

07-09-2003, 01:56 PM	#194
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	A snapshot of the Freshwater, especially the treasure chest and bubbles (The best part of the tank), would not give an impression of how it looks in motion. Jim videotaped a single large bubble (probably about 1,000 times) in front of a blue screen, cleaned the frames up, and uses this as an animated texture. The bubbles are random sizes playing this animated texture at random speeds. It looks like rolling mercury. The treasure chest opening and closing (especially the shadows and the 3D realism of the pearl necklace) and the bubbles coming out of the lip of the chest are all perfectly realistic. It is REALLY convincing. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-09-2003, 03:28 PM	#195
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	Ok, then let me revise. I'd pay for a little animated mpeg or avi file Just being an antsy little pest. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

07-10-2003, 04:43 AM	#196
clifdene Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 168	Many thanks Jim. I will try to wait patiently.

07-11-2003, 04:09 PM	#197
richard32 HALLOWEEN FAN Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: uppingham rutland England Posts: 19	this freshwater aquarium cant come soon enough keep the good work up jim. DOOM 3 IN 2004 HALFLIFE 2 IN APRIL 2004

07-11-2003, 10:44 PM	#198
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	Thanks, Richard. And thanks for the kiss. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-27-2003, 01:33 AM	#199
Rich this is me,and only me. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 388	hI guys just wondering, I just read the text of the chat with jim on july 19th? was still wondering if a siamese fighter(betta) is going to be included in the freshwater aquarium? and I just bought a powerhead filter and must say its a darn fine little thing...

07-27-2003, 10:24 AM	#200
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	No Bettas. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium