Any more bugs?

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 10:21 AM

Has anyone discovered any more actual bugs lately? I fixed the hole in the anemone on the far right, but all the other issues seem to be driver-related.

If you previously reported a bug that I haven't fixed yet, please refresh my memory.

rctneil · 10-16-2008, 10:53 AM

Black background on secondary screen when in window mode when using ultramon?

feldon34 · 10-16-2008, 11:06 AM

I'm going through all the threads and flagging them with prefixes.

feldon34 · 10-16-2008, 01:33 PM

Alright, added Prefixes and went through and tagged almost all the threads with them.

By the way, I moved a bug to a separate thread here:
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4482

Bob · 10-16-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

If you previously reported a bug that I haven't fixed yet, please refresh my memory.

It is still stealing focus when running in a window if the cursor moves over the MA3 window. Based on your earlier comment this may be as designed, but I still hope it's changed or at least made optional.

The jumping/flashing when the title bar comes and goes is still happening. Perhaps this could be turned on and off with a toggle key like wire frame mode.

Thanks.

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 01:48 PM

OK, thanks for the troubleshooting effort.

Racer-X · 10-16-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by feldon32:

Alright, added Prefixes and went through and tagged almost all the threads with them.

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4394 is a Feature???

feldon34 · 10-16-2008, 02:26 PM

Changed it to Confirmed 3.0b2 bug.

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 03:48 PM

Glenn - If I could just find a way of duplicating that on one of my machines, I could work on it. I'll keep trying.

Shinsa · 10-16-2008, 07:36 PM

When MA3 is in window, and tries to pop up front, it also causes the TASK BAR button to flash, which then causes my auto-hide TASK BAR to un-hide. The task bar then stays up until I click on the MA3 button, letting the task bar hide again. This is a minor problem, since my task bar has a lot of info on it, I like to keep it out of the way. When it pops up, and doesn't go back by itself, I need to find the offending program (many do this by the way) and click its task button to make it happy again, then the task bar will go down again.

Would be great if the aquarium didn't cause that to happen too.

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 07:52 PM

So, if the Aquarium had an "Always on Top When in Windowed mode" option, would that solve your problem?

Dale · 10-16-2008, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Shinsa:

When MA3 is in window, and tries to pop up front, it also causes the TASK BAR button to flash, which then causes my auto-hide TASK BAR to un-hide. The task bar then stays up until I click on the MA3 button, letting the task bar hide again. This is a minor problem, since my task bar has a lot of info on it, I like to keep it out of the way. When it pops up, and doesn't go back by itself, I need to find the offending program (many do this by the way) and click its task button to make it happy again, then the task bar will go down again.

Would be great if the aquarium didn't cause that to happen too.

Certainly something that bears fixing.

In the meantime, if (whatever your OS is) can run TWEAKUI, that has the capability to turn off taskbar flashing, as I recall.

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 10:27 PM

This isn't a bug, so it doesn't actually need fixing, but I can see how it might be annoying. When in windowed mode, the Alpha testers had asked that the titlebar at the top of the window disappear. In order for the Exit box to be usable, I had to make the titlebar re-appear and bring the window to the front whenever the cursor passes over it. The way Shinsa has his machine set up, this also causes some unpeasant effects with the task bar. In previous versions of the Aquarium I had built in an option to always have the window on top when in windowed mode, and I was wondering if this would be an acceptable compromise.

hololo · 10-16-2008, 11:44 PM

Why Ochre Starfish can't moving?

Jim Sachs · 10-17-2008, 12:02 AM

It moves.

Shinsa · 10-17-2008, 06:09 AM

An always on top option might fix it. Or a tick box for removing the window bar/frame. You don't need the X to exit, as right mouse click on the window will do that.

Or just click on the window to bring it to focus?

Jav400 · 10-17-2008, 07:05 AM

I think we went over that in the early Alpha stages. Even though you don't need the "X" to exit the saver, it was determined that a right click to close wasn't intuitive enough to be the only method for exiting.

Unless Jim has changed his mind that is..............................

feldon34 · 10-17-2008, 11:02 PM

Moved the Matrox issue to its own thread:
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4498

Surferminn · 10-18-2008, 05:58 AM

I noted this in Beta 1 and thought I'd mention it since it's in Beta 2.

When Pressing the F key, going into full screen is smooth. The screen goes blank for a second or 2 and full screen mode appears. No problem. However,

When Pressing the F key going into smaller windowed mode, the windowed screen blinks in kinda fragmented for a split second before filling in completely each time. Might be something on my computer if nobody else has happen. Sorry unable to get a shot of this fragmented split second. But easily noticeable if the windowed size is about three quarters of the full size. But since it does ultimately end up into a good working windowed mode, isn't really a problem.

Jim Sachs · 10-18-2008, 10:41 AM

The ease with which systems switch between Fullscreen and Windowed mode varies greatly. Factors include whether the resolution or bit depth are changing, how many windows are open, and how much RAM the video card has.

10-16-2008, 10:21 AM	#1
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Any more bugs? Has anyone discovered any more actual bugs lately? I fixed the hole in the anemone on the far right, but all the other issues seem to be driver-related. If you previously reported a bug that I haven't fixed yet, please refresh my memory. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-16-2008, 11:06 AM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I'm going through all the threads and flagging them with prefixes. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-16-2008, 01:33 PM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Alright, added Prefixes and went through and tagged almost all the threads with them. By the way, I moved a bug to a separate thread here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4482 "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-16-2008, 01:48 PM	#6
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	OK, thanks for the troubleshooting effort. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-16-2008, 02:26 PM	#8
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Changed it to Confirmed 3.0b2 bug. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-16-2008, 10:53 AM	#2
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Black background on secondary screen when in window mode when using ultramon?

10-16-2008, 01:36 PM	#5
Bob Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 103	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: If you previously reported a bug that I haven't fixed yet, please refresh my memory. It is still stealing focus when running in a window if the cursor moves over the MA3 window. Based on your earlier comment this may be as designed, but I still hope it's changed or at least made optional. The jumping/flashing when the title bar comes and goes is still happening. Perhaps this could be turned on and off with a toggle key like wire frame mode. Thanks.

10-16-2008, 01:56 PM	#7
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	Originally posted by feldon32: Alright, added Prefixes and went through and tagged almost all the threads with them. https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4394 is a Feature???

10-16-2008, 03:48 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Glenn - If I could just find a way of duplicating that on one of my machines, I could work on it. I'll keep trying. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-16-2008, 07:36 PM	#10
Shinsa Registered Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 407	When MA3 is in window, and tries to pop up front, it also causes the TASK BAR button to flash, which then causes my auto-hide TASK BAR to un-hide. The task bar then stays up until I click on the MA3 button, letting the task bar hide again. This is a minor problem, since my task bar has a lot of info on it, I like to keep it out of the way. When it pops up, and doesn't go back by itself, I need to find the offending program (many do this by the way) and click its task button to make it happy again, then the task bar will go down again. Would be great if the aquarium didn't cause that to happen too. Bob "When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." _______________________________________________

10-16-2008, 07:52 PM	#11
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	So, if the Aquarium had an "Always on Top When in Windowed mode" option, would that solve your problem? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-16-2008, 10:02 PM	#12
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Shinsa: When MA3 is in window, and tries to pop up front, it also causes the TASK BAR button to flash, which then causes my auto-hide TASK BAR to un-hide. The task bar then stays up until I click on the MA3 button, letting the task bar hide again. This is a minor problem, since my task bar has a lot of info on it, I like to keep it out of the way. When it pops up, and doesn't go back by itself, I need to find the offending program (many do this by the way) and click its task button to make it happy again, then the task bar will go down again. Would be great if the aquarium didn't cause that to happen too. Certainly something that bears fixing. In the meantime, if (whatever your OS is) can run TWEAKUI, that has the capability to turn off taskbar flashing, as I recall.

10-16-2008, 10:27 PM	#13
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	This isn't a bug, so it doesn't actually need fixing, but I can see how it might be annoying. When in windowed mode, the Alpha testers had asked that the titlebar at the top of the window disappear. In order for the Exit box to be usable, I had to make the titlebar re-appear and bring the window to the front whenever the cursor passes over it. The way Shinsa has his machine set up, this also causes some unpeasant effects with the task bar. In previous versions of the Aquarium I had built in an option to always have the window on top when in windowed mode, and I was wondering if this would be an acceptable compromise. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-16-2008, 11:44 PM	#14
hololo Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Taipei Taiwan Posts: 43	Why Ochre Starfish can't moving?

10-17-2008, 12:02 AM	#15
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	It moves. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-17-2008, 06:09 AM	#16
Shinsa Registered Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 407	An always on top option might fix it. Or a tick box for removing the window bar/frame. You don't need the X to exit, as right mouse click on the window will do that. Or just click on the window to bring it to focus? Bob "When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." _______________________________________________

10-17-2008, 07:05 AM	#17
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	I think we went over that in the early Alpha stages. Even though you don't need the "X" to exit the saver, it was determined that a right click to close wasn't intuitive enough to be the only method for exiting. Unless Jim has changed his mind that is.............................. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

10-17-2008, 11:02 PM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Moved the Matrox issue to its own thread: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4498 "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-18-2008, 05:58 AM	#19
Surferminn Senior Puddle Jumper Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 6,017	I noted this in Beta 1 and thought I'd mention it since it's in Beta 2. When Pressing the F key, going into full screen is smooth. The screen goes blank for a second or 2 and full screen mode appears. No problem. However, When Pressing the F key going into smaller windowed mode, the windowed screen blinks in kinda fragmented for a split second before filling in completely each time. Might be something on my computer if nobody else has happen. Sorry unable to get a shot of this fragmented split second. But easily noticeable if the windowed size is about three quarters of the full size. But since it does ultimately end up into a good working windowed mode, isn't really a problem. Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes.

10-18-2008, 10:41 AM	#20
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The ease with which systems switch between Fullscreen and Windowed mode varies greatly. Factors include whether the resolution or bit depth are changing, how many windows are open, and how much RAM the video card has. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium