no clock in the tank

troyb · 02-05-2009, 06:20 PM

sorry but i didn't know where to post this the crystal is there but not the clock i tryed " C and L " no clock. is there another download i have to get befor the clock shows up in the tank Thank you for your help

cjmaddy · 02-05-2009, 07:07 PM

The clock is currently only in the beta..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...4&postcount=37 - It will be in the Installer version, "soon"

Please read the other threads in this Marine Aquarium 3 Beta Test Forum, then you will be up-to-date with what has happened, what is likely to happen, - and when it hopefully will happen!

RayM · 02-07-2009, 07:59 AM

Hi, I have been downloading the betas for some time now. This is a fantastic piece of software. This morning I bought the upgrade. I love it.

I also downloaded beta 9. There is no clock in my tank.

I'm getting roughly 300 fps. My machine is a quad core on a x38 motherboard with 4gb DDR3 ram and a ATI 3870 graphics card. All of the latest drivers are loaded.

Jim Sachs · 02-07-2009, 09:01 PM

Did you press C?

Old Prop · 02-09-2009, 04:05 PM

With some trepidation, since this is my first attempt at Marine Aquarium 3 entomology, may I report that I, too, have no clock? Nothing happens when I press C, either. And, for that matter, pressing L has done nothing for the last three (I believe) betas. Windows XP sp3, "altlogo.png" file present in System 32 and in Serene Screen program folder, registration key for MA3 purchased and used, current (as of today) beta 9a.

cjmaddy · 02-09-2009, 04:52 PM

By default, the user's settings are now most likely to be kept in... C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3
That's where my AltLogo.png and MA3Playlist.lst are. - Note that only the Beta9a will currently show the different clocks and calendar.

ps, Welcome to the forum!

Jim Sachs · 02-09-2009, 04:55 PM

A few things to check:

Clock - Are you positive you are using Beta9a? The statistics text (which should default to ON) should list the version as Beta9a.

Logo - The logo needs to be in the program's "Application Data" directory. The location of this varies, but on my computer it's C:/Documents and Settings/HP_Administrator/Application Data/Marine Aquarium 3 . This will be a lot easier when I get an interface in place.

rps · 02-09-2009, 05:00 PM

Don't forget, you also have to change the program settings to "Display Crystal". (If the crystal is not visible, pressing "C" will not have any effect.)

~Ralph

Cougfan · 02-09-2009, 05:14 PM

One thing I found out is there are two listings for MA3 in my screensaver list - one for the "Installed" version, and a second that says "beta". To get the clock I have to select "beta".

cjmaddy · 02-09-2009, 05:24 PM

Correct. - The clock/calendar is currently only in the beta, not the installer version.

Quick Death · 02-09-2009, 07:26 PM

The latest Clock/Calendar experiments work great, need to update the about/keyboard shortcuts

Jim Sachs · 02-09-2009, 08:53 PM

I haven't decided if the final key shortcuts will be the current ones. Still open to suggestions.

cjmaddy · 02-10-2009, 06:19 AM

How about "C", for Clock/Calendar? .... And "L" for Logo changes?

..... (Note the clever and cunning use of the first letter of the associated feature's name!)

Jav400 · 02-10-2009, 06:49 AM

What about the crystal?

Rick Simon · 02-10-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Jav400:

What about the crystal?

Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6).

A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo.

The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos.

feldon34 · 02-10-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Jav400:

What about the crystal?

I never felt the Crystal needed to be toggled in real time.

Jav400 · 02-10-2009, 09:36 AM

That decision I leave to Jim, I'm just bringing to light the conflict with using the "C" key as it could as well be considered for use with the crystal if warranted.

cjmaddy · 02-10-2009, 09:54 AM

I can only pray that at least Jim might see the irony of my last post, and that I was merely stating the b****y obvious!

rctneil · 02-10-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Rick Simon:

Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6).

A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo.

The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos.

That seems perfect. I can understand that it would take a lot of time and effort to get implemented but it would give the user a lot of flexibility with the crystal and it's applications.

For multi logo use. Why not just do the same as the "T" key. When you press it multiple times, it just switches from logo to logo to logo just ask the time switches style from style to style to style!

Jim Sachs · 02-10-2009, 10:17 AM

Yes, Cliff - I get it

Regarding toggling the crystal with a key, no. The crystal defaults to ON, and displays the SereneScreen Logo. That way, when people see it in stores they know what they are looking at. Switching away from the logo needs to be at least a little effort - bringing up the Settings screen, and clicking a checkbox. Our biggest problem has always been lack of name recognition. Millions of potential customers have no idea that it's a product they can buy and put on their own computer.

02-05-2009, 06:20 PM	#1
troyb Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 36	no clock in the tank sorry but i didn't know where to post this the crystal is there but not the clock i tryed " C and L " no clock. is there another download i have to get befor the clock shows up in the tank Thank you for your help Last edited by troyb; 02-07-2009 at 10:10 PM.

02-07-2009, 07:59 AM	#3
RayM Registered Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: London Posts: 5	No Clock in beta 9 tank Hi, I have been downloading the betas for some time now. This is a fantastic piece of software. This morning I bought the upgrade. I love it. I also downloaded beta 9. There is no clock in my tank. I'm getting roughly 300 fps. My machine is a quad core on a x38 motherboard with 4gb DDR3 ram and a ATI 3870 graphics card. All of the latest drivers are loaded.

02-07-2009, 09:01 PM	#4
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Did you press C? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-09-2009, 04:55 PM	#7
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	A few things to check: Clock - Are you positive you are using Beta9a? The statistics text (which should default to ON) should list the version as Beta9a. Logo - The logo needs to be in the program's "Application Data" directory. The location of this varies, but on my computer it's C:/Documents and Settings/HP_Administrator/Application Data/Marine Aquarium 3 . This will be a lot easier when I get an interface in place. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-09-2009, 08:53 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	I haven't decided if the final key shortcuts will be the current ones. Still open to suggestions. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-05-2009, 07:07 PM	#2
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	The clock is currently only in the beta..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...4&postcount=37 - It will be in the Installer version, "soon" Please read the other threads in this Marine Aquarium 3 Beta Test Forum, then you will be up-to-date with what has happened, what is likely to happen, - and when it hopefully will happen!

02-09-2009, 04:05 PM	#5
Old Prop Registered Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 4	With some trepidation, since this is my first attempt at Marine Aquarium 3 entomology, may I report that I, too, have no clock? Nothing happens when I press C, either. And, for that matter, pressing L has done nothing for the last three (I believe) betas. Windows XP sp3, "altlogo.png" file present in System 32 and in Serene Screen program folder, registration key for MA3 purchased and used, current (as of today) beta 9a.

02-09-2009, 04:52 PM	#6
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	By default, the user's settings are now most likely to be kept in... C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3 That's where my AltLogo.png and MA3Playlist.lst are. - Note that only the Beta9a will currently show the different clocks and calendar. ps, Welcome to the forum!

02-09-2009, 05:00 PM	#8
rps Registered Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 57	Don't forget, you also have to change the program settings to "Display Crystal". (If the crystal is not visible, pressing "C" will not have any effect.) ~Ralph

02-09-2009, 05:14 PM	#9
Cougfan Registered Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pullman, Washington Posts: 2	One thing I found out is there are two listings for MA3 in my screensaver list - one for the "Installed" version, and a second that says "beta". To get the clock I have to select "beta".

02-09-2009, 05:24 PM	#10
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Correct. - The clock/calendar is currently only in the beta, not the installer version.

02-09-2009, 07:26 PM	#11
Quick Death Registered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 106	The latest Clock/Calendar experiments work great, need to update the about/keyboard shortcuts

02-10-2009, 06:19 AM	#13
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	How about "C", for Clock/Calendar? .... And "L" for Logo changes? ..... (Note the clever and cunning use of the first letter of the associated feature's name!)

02-10-2009, 06:49 AM	#14
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	What about the crystal? Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-10-2009, 08:23 AM	#15
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jav400: What about the crystal? Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6). A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo. The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos.

02-10-2009, 09:30 AM	#16
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by Jav400: What about the crystal? I never felt the Crystal needed to be toggled in real time. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-10-2009, 09:36 AM	#17
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	That decision I leave to Jim, I'm just bringing to light the conflict with using the "C" key as it could as well be considered for use with the crystal if warranted. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-10-2009, 09:54 AM	#18
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I can only pray that at least Jim might see the irony of my last post, and that I was merely stating the b****y obvious!

02-10-2009, 09:58 AM	#19
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Originally posted by Rick Simon: Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6). A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo. The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos. That seems perfect. I can understand that it would take a lot of time and effort to get implemented but it would give the user a lot of flexibility with the crystal and it's applications. For multi logo use. Why not just do the same as the "T" key. When you press it multiple times, it just switches from logo to logo to logo just ask the time switches style from style to style to style!

02-10-2009, 10:17 AM	#20
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, Cliff - I get it Regarding toggling the crystal with a key, no. The crystal defaults to ON, and displays the SereneScreen Logo. That way, when people see it in stores they know what they are looking at. Switching away from the logo needs to be at least a little effort - bringing up the Settings screen, and clicking a checkbox. Our biggest problem has always been lack of name recognition. Millions of potential customers have no idea that it's a product they can buy and put on their own computer. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium