Feature Request Crystal Addon

rctneil · 02-03-2009, 04:59 AM

Hello, Is there any chance that while your working on crystal additions that maybe you could add in some sort of notification on the crystal just to show that the user has an email. Maybe a little tiny envelope icon is illuminated near the bottom of the crystal. Something that won't distract from the aquarium but something you can check now and again without having to turn off the saver. If you go ahead with this please make it compatible with Mozilla Thunderbird!

Thanks

Regards,
Neil

hololo · 02-03-2009, 06:37 AM

Maybe it's an option in MA3, not another version

rctneil · 02-03-2009, 07:01 AM

What do you mean? I havn't said anything about another version? Of course it would be an option

Yodelking · 02-03-2009, 09:34 AM

Even though I can see the use of this feature, I don't think a flashing email icon is something I'd like to see in my aquarium. Why not just have your favourite email-program running in the background and make it play a horrible sound every time you get an email?

A clock in the aquarium is bad enough.

Jim Sachs · 02-03-2009, 10:06 AM

There's no way I'd venture into browsers and email systems. That's for someone else to spend their lifetime on.

CodeMonkey · 02-03-2009, 10:39 AM

If you get bored you could make what the crystal displays a plugin and people could do whatever wild and wonderful things they want

rctneil · 02-03-2009, 10:51 AM

I didn't mean have it flashing, the icon could be tiny and just be engraved into the crystal.

I also didn;t mean notification of email from web based email systems, just from desktop apps like Outlook and Thunderbird.

Jav400 · 02-03-2009, 11:04 AM

Unless I am missing something here, I don't quite see the point of that one. Either one of two things, Jim would have to program in all the smtp protocols and let the ss do the actual work, or just let it notify you if some other email client gets some mail.

Most others already let you attribute sounds when mail comes in like YK says in post #4, so I'm not really sure I see the point. And like Jim says, there is no way he is going to open that kettle of fish to get actual email working with the SS.

Jim Sachs · 02-03-2009, 11:27 AM

Learning how to communicate with other programs (to see when emails come in, etc.) is not even close to something that I would consider.

VinceMoll · 02-04-2009, 07:13 AM

Jim,
I know you have been working like crazy to get the clocks for the crystal together, so here is something for the future wish list. Would it be possible to have the clocks chime or gong on the hour. Just something maybe to keep in mind after the clocks are up and running complete.

cjmaddy · 02-04-2009, 09:02 AM

My tropical fish aquariums never played music, they never contained photo frames, they didn't have clocks or calendars or other advertising matter, they didn't go on the internet to receive e-mails, - and they certainly didn't chime or gong on the hour!!!

They had fish and plants!

A few desktop icons on a computer simulation tank, would seem to pale into insignificance by comparison with that lot! - (But I don't want those either!)

Let's stop all this madness... My vote is for fish and corals............... And nothing more!

Jav400 · 02-04-2009, 09:20 AM

In general I agree. I think some added functionality that will help sell Jim's work is fine, most of it isn't visable, and that's fine. Playing music is ok, the crystal is ok, ( mainly because I really abhor that piece of coral it replaces

) it has Jim's logo and some functionality for users as well. But, I dare say that spending months on functionality instead of artwork is not what Jim had in mind.

Lets see the clams move Jim!

henemly · 02-04-2009, 11:06 AM

Ya, I think 'hourly chimes' is going a bit to far

Jim Sachs · 02-04-2009, 11:30 AM

Sorry - Not gonna happen.

jleslie · 02-04-2009, 12:52 PM

Actually I'd have liked the e-mail icon, so don't have to stop the aquarium every so often to see if you have e-mail, oh well...

BTW it seems u can do it simply with VBA code (from http://mattcollinge.wordpress.com/software) or there's an open-source prog with BSD licence (http://cloutmon.cvs.sourceforge.net/...tmon/cloutmon/) which should show what needs to happen...

Jim Sachs · 02-04-2009, 01:24 PM

Progress report - I've found a clearer "look" for the digital clock numerals. I'd been trying to stick with the traditional modular style, but that just wasn't working, so I went with this. (Eventually there will be several styles to choose from.)

jdtoomb · 02-04-2009, 01:29 PM

Looks good!

Rick Simon · 02-04-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by jleslie:

Actually I'd have liked the e-mail icon, so don't have to stop the aquarium every so often to see if you have e-mail, oh well...

One way to achieve the same thing is to use something like the freeware Jet Mail Monitor. You can download a copy from:

http://www.brothersoft.com/jetmailmonitor-68107.html

I haven't personally used it in some time but I ran an older version of it for a couple of years. You can set it to check multiple email accounts and notify you of new emails in a variety of ways including playing a user selectable sound file.

henemly · 02-04-2009, 01:33 PM

Jim, digi-clock looks beautiful. Nice font! (what is it's name)

Dale · 02-04-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Progress report - I've found a clearer "look" for the digital clock numerals. I'd been trying to stick with the traditional modular style, but that just wasn't working, so I went with this. (Eventually there will be several styles to choose from.)

It seems to "glow". Does that change the lighting on the objects in front of (and below) it? Does it change the lighting on the fish, as they pass near?

02-03-2009, 04:59 AM	#1
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Crystal Addon Hello, Is there any chance that while your working on crystal additions that maybe you could add in some sort of notification on the crystal just to show that the user has an email. Maybe a little tiny envelope icon is illuminated near the bottom of the crystal. Something that won't distract from the aquarium but something you can check now and again without having to turn off the saver. If you go ahead with this please make it compatible with Mozilla Thunderbird! Thanks Regards, Neil

02-03-2009, 10:06 AM	#5
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	There's no way I'd venture into browsers and email systems. That's for someone else to spend their lifetime on. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 02-03-2009 at 11:31 AM.

02-03-2009, 11:04 AM	#8
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Unless I am missing something here, I don't quite see the point of that one. Either one of two things, Jim would have to program in all the smtp protocols and let the ss do the actual work, or just let it notify you if some other email client gets some mail. Most others already let you attribute sounds when mail comes in like YK says in post #4, so I'm not really sure I see the point. And like Jim says, there is no way he is going to open that kettle of fish to get actual email working with the SS. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-03-2009, 11:27 AM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Learning how to communicate with other programs (to see when emails come in, etc.) is not even close to something that I would consider. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-04-2009, 09:20 AM	#12
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	In general I agree. I think some added functionality that will help sell Jim's work is fine, most of it isn't visable, and that's fine. Playing music is ok, the crystal is ok, ( mainly because I really abhor that piece of coral it replaces ) it has Jim's logo and some functionality for users as well. But, I dare say that spending months on functionality instead of artwork is not what Jim had in mind. Lets see the clams move Jim! Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-03-2009, 06:37 AM	#2
hololo Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Taipei Taiwan Posts: 43	Maybe it's an option in MA3, not another version

02-03-2009, 07:01 AM	#3
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	What do you mean? I havn't said anything about another version? Of course it would be an option

02-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#4
Yodelking yodeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staffanstorp, Sweden Posts: 294	Even though I can see the use of this feature, I don't think a flashing email icon is something I'd like to see in my aquarium. Why not just have your favourite email-program running in the background and make it play a horrible sound every time you get an email? A clock in the aquarium is bad enough. Yodelking - För god att kolsyra!

02-03-2009, 10:39 AM	#6
CodeMonkey Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7	If you get bored you could make what the crystal displays a plugin and people could do whatever wild and wonderful things they want

02-03-2009, 10:51 AM	#7
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	I didn't mean have it flashing, the icon could be tiny and just be engraved into the crystal. I also didn;t mean notification of email from web based email systems, just from desktop apps like Outlook and Thunderbird.

02-04-2009, 07:13 AM	#10
VinceMoll Registered Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wellington, OH Posts: 9	Jim, I know you have been working like crazy to get the clocks for the crystal together, so here is something for the future wish list. Would it be possible to have the clocks chime or gong on the hour. Just something maybe to keep in mind after the clocks are up and running complete.

02-04-2009, 09:02 AM	#11
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	My tropical fish aquariums never played music, they never contained photo frames, they didn't have clocks or calendars or other advertising matter, they didn't go on the internet to receive e-mails, - and they certainly didn't chime or gong on the hour!!! They had fish and plants! A few desktop icons on a computer simulation tank, would seem to pale into insignificance by comparison with that lot! - (But I don't want those either!) Let's stop all this madness... My vote is for fish and corals............... And nothing more!

02-04-2009, 11:06 AM	#13
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Ya, I think 'hourly chimes' is going a bit to far

02-04-2009, 11:30 AM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Sorry - Not gonna happen. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-04-2009, 12:52 PM	#15
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	Actually I'd have liked the e-mail icon, so don't have to stop the aquarium every so often to see if you have e-mail, oh well... BTW it seems u can do it simply with VBA code (from http://mattcollinge.wordpress.com/software) or there's an open-source prog with BSD licence (http://cloutmon.cvs.sourceforge.net/...tmon/cloutmon/) which should show what needs to happen...

02-04-2009, 01:29 PM	#17
jdtoomb Registered Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	Looks good!

02-04-2009, 01:29 PM	#18
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by jleslie: Actually I'd have liked the e-mail icon, so don't have to stop the aquarium every so often to see if you have e-mail, oh well... One way to achieve the same thing is to use something like the freeware Jet Mail Monitor. You can download a copy from: http://www.brothersoft.com/jetmailmonitor-68107.html I haven't personally used it in some time but I ran an older version of it for a couple of years. You can set it to check multiple email accounts and notify you of new emails in a variety of ways including playing a user selectable sound file.

02-04-2009, 01:33 PM	#19
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Jim, digi-clock looks beautiful. Nice font! (what is it's name)

02-04-2009, 01:37 PM	#20
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Progress report - I've found a clearer "look" for the digital clock numerals. I'd been trying to stick with the traditional modular style, but that just wasn't working, so I went with this. (Eventually there will be several styles to choose from.) It seems to "glow". Does that change the lighting on the objects in front of (and below) it? Does it change the lighting on the fish, as they pass near?