Where is the 3D background

Want3DBackground · 10-21-2004, 09:54 AM

How many years have we been waiting?

-H

bugsymcd24 · 10-21-2004, 10:25 AM

--- it is in the works....

you sound a little disgruntled.....

have patience grasshopper...perfection takes time....

Want3DBackground · 10-21-2004, 11:01 AM

Hehe - actually - not really - just truly disappointed.... Patient for months or a year... This has been years. I have not been using the screensaver for a while - and then saw a link somewhere and said "Oh, Yeah!" and then quickly remembered this flaw... So I decided to check things out.

When a promised feature is ignored and ignored for YEARS to develop new products (goldfish and freshwater - which were both unavailable when I last used the SS), it becomes obvious that there is no intention on developing it...

Otherwise, wouldn't we see some beta action?

Lets see the schedule now!

-Howie

AKcrab · 10-21-2004, 11:50 AM

Development has stalled. There is no schedule.

Want3DBackground · 10-21-2004, 01:04 PM

See - so then there's nothing to be patient about. Basically we were lied to.

Sure, we'll get the animated background...

SereneScreen for PRESIDENT!

drfish · 10-21-2004, 01:16 PM

Dude, you need to chill a little, there's been plenty of progress made while you've been gone, you just weren't around to wittness it and it wasn't what you were hoping for. We were never lied to, that's why Jim never gives ETAs, we can't be lied to... It'll show up eventually, but it's anybody's guess as to when...

ESHIREY · 10-21-2004, 01:35 PM

Ok, Here I am.

First off, Welcome to the forums Want3DBackground. And second, Please........ take that chill pill.

Like Doc has said, we were not lied too. It takes time to do it and the other programs had to be done first. Like the freshwater. When that one is done then we will have our 3d background.

And it will be great.

So please buddy, don't get all upset. It is coming.

Wizwad · 10-21-2004, 05:53 PM

I think we'd better shoot the driver of that bus, though, just in case.

{ Currently feeling disgruntled at late buses, missing buses, late trains and trains that then crawl along causing one to miss one's connecting train and get in at 12:30 at night! Grrr! This is a perfect excuse for revenge!!! }

Jim Sachs · 10-22-2004, 04:57 PM

Turns out, creating a 3D backgound is hard.

EVERRET · 10-22-2004, 07:27 PM

Wasn't the main "reason" for making the fresh water screensaver and 3D background for it, (a couple of years ago) that in order to get serenescreen into stores there needed to be two products instead of just one. Now that you can go into any wal mart, best buy or comp usa and get serenescreen screensavers, is it still as important to get the freshwater screensaver out there? With the new goldfish and shark screensavers out, now im not so sure about another freshwater fish screensaver selling in any great numbers. Would not some creature packs for the existing marine aquarium make more since and or cents, while bringing back some life to a neglected screensaver that is still the best out there ?

Ralph · 10-22-2004, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by EVERRET
Would not some creature packs for the existing marine aquarium make more sense and or cents, while bringing back some life to a neglected screensaver that is still the best out there ?

For what it is worth... I would agree.

Jim Sachs · 10-22-2004, 11:18 PM

Didn't we just cover all this a week or two ago?

Ralph · 10-23-2004, 02:59 PM

Yes, and frequently before that as well. Any excuse to add my 2 cents towards developing enhancements to the current Screen Saver. It is not my call but if you polled the membership I would guess they would overwhelmingly favor all the "extras" that have been alluded to over the years instead of developing the 3D.

I appreciate the challenge (and honour) of trying to be the first to represent a realistic illusion of a 3D background. Serene Screen certainly set the standard for aquariums that is still unmatched several years later.... But!

feldon34 · 10-23-2004, 08:08 PM

The "extras" are impossible without the 3D background.

Jim Sachs · 10-23-2004, 08:14 PM

Correct. For invertabrates to be crawling around and fish interacting with the background objects, those objects must actually exist in 3D space (OK, VIRTUALLY exist).

EVERRET · 10-23-2004, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the reply's, Sorry I missed the thread if this was allready discussed a week or two ago. Keep up the good work Jim, I will be the first in line when the freshwater screensaver, 3D background and creature packs are released.

AKcrab · 10-24-2004, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by EVERRET
I will be the first in line when the freshwater screensaver, 3D background and creature packs are released.

Assuming you're alive in 2015.

Jim Sachs · 10-25-2004, 02:22 AM

... and assuming I'M alive in 2015 (a much bigger assumtion, given the fact that I'm roughly as old as dirt).

cjmaddy · 10-25-2004, 04:03 AM

... cheer up Jim, isn't dirt everlasting?

..... It's been around here for quite a while!

Marian Nichols · 10-25-2004, 04:09 AM

Yeah, Cliff and I are still here.

10-21-2004, 09:54 AM	#1
Want3DBackground Registered Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3	Where is the 3D background How many years have we been waiting? -H

10-21-2004, 01:16 PM	#6
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Dude, you need to chill a little, there's been plenty of progress made while you've been gone, you just weren't around to wittness it and it wasn't what you were hoping for. We were never lied to, that's why Jim never gives ETAs, we can't be lied to... It'll show up eventually, but it's anybody's guess as to when... I don't watch commercials.

10-21-2004, 01:35 PM	#7
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Ok, Here I am. First off, Welcome to the forums Want3DBackground. And second, Please........ take that chill pill. Like Doc has said, we were not lied too. It takes time to do it and the other programs had to be done first. Like the freshwater. When that one is done then we will have our 3d background. And it will be great. So please buddy, don't get all upset. It is coming. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

10-21-2004, 05:53 PM	#8
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	I think we'd better shoot the driver of that bus, though, just in case. { Currently feeling disgruntled at late buses, missing buses, late trains and trains that then crawl along causing one to miss one's connecting train and get in at 12:30 at night! Grrr! This is a perfect excuse for revenge!!! } Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

10-22-2004, 04:57 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Turns out, creating a 3D backgound is hard. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-21-2004, 10:25 AM	#2
bugsymcd24 PC Professional Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 147	--- it is in the works.... you sound a little disgruntled..... have patience grasshopper...perfection takes time....

10-21-2004, 11:01 AM	#3
Want3DBackground Registered Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3	Hehe - actually - not really - just truly disappointed.... Patient for months or a year... This has been years. I have not been using the screensaver for a while - and then saw a link somewhere and said "Oh, Yeah!" and then quickly remembered this flaw... So I decided to check things out. When a promised feature is ignored and ignored for YEARS to develop new products (goldfish and freshwater - which were both unavailable when I last used the SS), it becomes obvious that there is no intention on developing it... Otherwise, wouldn't we see some beta action? Lets see the schedule now! -Howie

10-21-2004, 11:50 AM	#4
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Development has stalled. There is no schedule.

10-21-2004, 01:04 PM	#5
Want3DBackground Registered Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3	See - so then there's nothing to be patient about. Basically we were lied to. Sure, we'll get the animated background... SereneScreen for PRESIDENT!

10-22-2004, 07:27 PM	#10
EVERRET Leopard Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: california Posts: 115	3D BACKGROUND Wasn't the main "reason" for making the fresh water screensaver and 3D background for it, (a couple of years ago) that in order to get serenescreen into stores there needed to be two products instead of just one. Now that you can go into any wal mart, best buy or comp usa and get serenescreen screensavers, is it still as important to get the freshwater screensaver out there? With the new goldfish and shark screensavers out, now im not so sure about another freshwater fish screensaver selling in any great numbers. Would not some creature packs for the existing marine aquarium make more since and or cents, while bringing back some life to a neglected screensaver that is still the best out there ?

10-22-2004, 09:30 PM	#11
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Re: 3D BACKGROUND Originally posted by EVERRET Would not some creature packs for the existing marine aquarium make more sense and or cents, while bringing back some life to a neglected screensaver that is still the best out there ? For what it is worth... I would agree.

10-22-2004, 11:18 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Didn't we just cover all this a week or two ago? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-23-2004, 02:59 PM	#13
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Yes, and frequently before that as well. Any excuse to add my 2 cents towards developing enhancements to the current Screen Saver. It is not my call but if you polled the membership I would guess they would overwhelmingly favor all the "extras" that have been alluded to over the years instead of developing the 3D. I appreciate the challenge (and honour) of trying to be the first to represent a realistic illusion of a 3D background. Serene Screen certainly set the standard for aquariums that is still unmatched several years later.... But!

10-23-2004, 08:08 PM	#14
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The "extras" are impossible without the 3D background. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-23-2004, 08:14 PM	#15
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Correct. For invertabrates to be crawling around and fish interacting with the background objects, those objects must actually exist in 3D space (OK, VIRTUALLY exist). Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-23-2004, 11:26 PM	#16
EVERRET Leopard Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: california Posts: 115	3D BACKGROUND Thanks for the reply's, Sorry I missed the thread if this was allready discussed a week or two ago. Keep up the good work Jim, I will be the first in line when the freshwater screensaver, 3D background and creature packs are released.

10-24-2004, 02:45 AM	#17
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Re: 3D BACKGROUND Originally posted by EVERRET I will be the first in line when the freshwater screensaver, 3D background and creature packs are released. Assuming you're alive in 2015.

10-25-2004, 02:22 AM	#18
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	... and assuming I'M alive in 2015 (a much bigger assumtion, given the fact that I'm roughly as old as dirt). Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-25-2004, 04:03 AM	#19
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	... cheer up Jim, isn't dirt everlasting? ..... It's been around here for quite a while!

10-25-2004, 04:09 AM	#20
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	Yeah, Cliff and I are still here. Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.