Bug: Awaiting Feedback Only showing 25% of the screen

TigerK0690 · 04-23-2009, 06:08 PM

I am trying the beta on my old laptop and I have a strange bug. The screen-shot explains it better than I can. I tried changing all the settings and its still the same. Sometimes when the screen-saver just starts, the rest of the screen appears for a split second then disappears again. I used to have version 2.6 on this computer and it ran without problems.

My computer is a Toshiba Satellite 1805-S204 with Windows XP, 512MB of RAM, Trident CyberBlade XP Ai1, 1024 x 768 x 32 resolution.

Jim Sachs · 04-23-2009, 09:58 PM

Looks like a driver problem. It's painting the background wash last instead of first.

cjmaddy · 04-24-2009, 04:52 AM

TigerK0690, - please also read what Michael has just said on this other thread.... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...886#post112886

If you are only getting 6 fps with a Sleep(2) setting, then MA3 is too demanding for that computer. MA2,6 was much less demanding.

feldon34 · 04-24-2009, 08:31 AM

Finding drivers for Trident CyberBlade XP can be a real challenge. I can try to look if you want.

TigerK0690 · 04-24-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by cjmaddy:

If you are only getting 6 fps with a Sleep(2) setting, then MA3 is too demanding for that computer. MA2,6 was much less demanding.

From what I can see on the screen, its animating without any lag, so I'm sure it can handle it. I tried this screensaver on a Pentium III desktop with only 128MB of RAM and it was surprisingly fast.

Originally posted by feldon33:

Finding drivers for Trident CyberBlade XP can be a real challenge. I can try to look if you want.

I would really appreciate it!

Jim Sachs · 04-24-2009, 09:56 AM

I hadn't even noticed the 6 fps in the statistics readout. With a framerate that low, it's probably not worth the effort searching for new drivers.

feldon34 · 04-24-2009, 09:58 AM

That screen snapshot shows 6 frames per second and a software viewport. So your graphics card is not going to run the Aquarium smoothly unless the fps goes up with different drivers.

MA3 requires newer hardware than MA2.6. MA2.6 will run on decent hardware from 7-9 years ago.

Nicki · 04-24-2009, 11:57 AM

I suppose Tiger , you might inadvertantly have full antialiasing and anistropic filtering on , in which case turning them off would give you a good framerate boost . I think someone did manage to get 30 something frames with a software vp once ? But most likely I think everyone who has already posted is on the money . When I first ran MA3 on my desktop it had integrated graphics with a software vp and the results were not good . I just had to buy a newer graphics card , but with a laptop you don't have that option . Maybe it's time to treat yourself to a new laptop ?

Nicki · 04-24-2009, 04:17 PM

Yeah , I just love that look she's giving . LB got it in another thread , Cassidy Freeman as Tess Mercer from Smallville . I like to switch my avatar pictures often , so it was like a contest , except with no prizes !

Jim Sachs · 04-24-2009, 05:18 PM

I sure wish everyone would go back to using their own picture. I like knowing who I'm talking to. It's hard for me to have a serious conversation with someone who looks like Henemly.

cjmaddy · 04-24-2009, 05:31 PM

You have a good point there, Jim! ....

..... Shall I dig mine out?

Jim Sachs · 04-24-2009, 09:02 PM

Only if you've changed from how I remember you.

henemly · 04-24-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

It's hard for me to have a serious conversation with someone who looks like Henemly.

Sorry Sir. Here ya go.

Surferminn · 04-24-2009, 10:36 PM

lol.....

Yodelking · 04-25-2009, 03:00 AM

Yeah, some avatars doesn't look too serious...

cjmaddy · 04-25-2009, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Only if you've changed from how I remember you.

loub516 · 04-25-2009, 08:08 AM

The top of Mr. Potato Head is close enough to real life for me.

TigerK0690 · 04-25-2009, 02:09 PM

Well, since this thread is about avatars now, I decided to add one too. lol

Nicki · 04-25-2009, 06:48 PM

I was the one who started all of this , so I guess it is fair enough . One time only this is a picture of the real me . Not a very good picture but it's all I'm ever going to post , lol . The real Nicole McNabb .

Jim Sachs · 04-25-2009, 07:07 PM

Seeing as you're the best-looking critter on the Forum, I don't see why you don't use that pic as your avatar.

04-23-2009, 06:08 PM	#1
TigerK0690 Registered Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Only showing 25% of the screen I am trying the beta on my old laptop and I have a strange bug. The screen-shot explains it better than I can. I tried changing all the settings and its still the same. Sometimes when the screen-saver just starts, the rest of the screen appears for a split second then disappears again. I used to have version 2.6 on this computer and it ran without problems. My computer is a Toshiba Satellite 1805-S204 with Windows XP, 512MB of RAM, Trident CyberBlade XP Ai1, 1024 x 768 x 32 resolution.

04-23-2009, 09:58 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Looks like a driver problem. It's painting the background wash last instead of first. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-24-2009, 08:31 AM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Finding drivers for Trident CyberBlade XP can be a real challenge. I can try to look if you want. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-24-2009, 09:56 AM	#6
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I hadn't even noticed the 6 fps in the statistics readout. With a framerate that low, it's probably not worth the effort searching for new drivers. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-24-2009, 09:58 AM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	That screen snapshot shows 6 frames per second and a software viewport. So your graphics card is not going to run the Aquarium smoothly unless the fps goes up with different drivers. MA3 requires newer hardware than MA2.6. MA2.6 will run on decent hardware from 7-9 years ago. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-24-2009, 04:52 AM	#3
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	TigerK0690, - please also read what Michael has just said on this other thread.... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...886#post112886 If you are only getting 6 fps with a Sleep(2) setting, then MA3 is too demanding for that computer. MA2,6 was much less demanding.

04-24-2009, 09:49 AM	#5
TigerK0690 Registered Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Originally posted by cjmaddy: If you are only getting 6 fps with a Sleep(2) setting, then MA3 is too demanding for that computer. MA2,6 was much less demanding. From what I can see on the screen, its animating without any lag, so I'm sure it can handle it. I tried this screensaver on a Pentium III desktop with only 128MB of RAM and it was surprisingly fast. Originally posted by feldon33: Finding drivers for Trident CyberBlade XP can be a real challenge. I can try to look if you want. I would really appreciate it!

04-24-2009, 11:57 AM	#8
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	I suppose Tiger , you might inadvertantly have full antialiasing and anistropic filtering on , in which case turning them off would give you a good framerate boost . I think someone did manage to get 30 something frames with a software vp once ? But most likely I think everyone who has already posted is on the money . When I first ran MA3 on my desktop it had integrated graphics with a software vp and the results were not good . I just had to buy a newer graphics card , but with a laptop you don't have that option . Maybe it's time to treat yourself to a new laptop ? Run you clever boy. And remember...

04-24-2009, 04:17 PM	#9
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	Yeah , I just love that look she's giving . LB got it in another thread , Cassidy Freeman as Tess Mercer from Smallville . I like to switch my avatar pictures often , so it was like a contest , except with no prizes ! Run you clever boy. And remember...

04-24-2009, 05:18 PM	#10
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I sure wish everyone would go back to using their own picture. I like knowing who I'm talking to. It's hard for me to have a serious conversation with someone who looks like Henemly. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-24-2009, 05:31 PM	#11
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	You have a good point there, Jim! .... ..... Shall I dig mine out?

04-24-2009, 09:02 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Only if you've changed from how I remember you. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-24-2009, 09:09 PM	#13
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: It's hard for me to have a serious conversation with someone who looks like Henemly. Sorry Sir. Here ya go. Last edited by henemly; 04-25-2009 at 08:12 AM.

04-24-2009, 10:36 PM	#14
Surferminn Senior Puddle Jumper Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 6,017	lol..... Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes.

04-25-2009, 03:00 AM	#15
Yodelking yodeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staffanstorp, Sweden Posts: 294	Yeah, some avatars doesn't look too serious... Yodelking - För god att kolsyra!

04-25-2009, 05:55 AM	#16
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Only if you've changed from how I remember you.

04-25-2009, 08:08 AM	#17
loub516 Registered Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Savannah, Ga. Posts: 421	The top of Mr. Potato Head is close enough to real life for me. LB

04-25-2009, 02:09 PM	#18
TigerK0690 Registered Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Well, since this thread is about avatars now, I decided to add one too. lol

04-25-2009, 06:48 PM	#19
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	I was the one who started all of this , so I guess it is fair enough . One time only this is a picture of the real me . Not a very good picture but it's all I'm ever going to post , lol . The real Nicole McNabb . Run you clever boy. And remember...

04-25-2009, 07:07 PM	#20
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Seeing as you're the best-looking critter on the Forum, I don't see why you don't use that pic as your avatar. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium