When something new coming out??

TennesseeTurtle · 06-02-2005, 05:01 AM

When is something new coming out?? It has been a long time?
Thanks
Mark

AKcrab · 06-02-2005, 05:38 PM

11/04/2006.

Jim Sachs · 06-02-2005, 06:22 PM

That's as good a date as any.

feldon34 · 06-03-2005, 07:56 AM

October, but we don't know which year.

Tarkus · 06-04-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by AKcrab:

11/04/2006.

Is that November 4th or April 11th?

I don't know what country you're from.

AKcrab · 06-04-2005, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Tarkus:

Is that November 4th or April 11th?

Yes.

Marian Nichols · 06-04-2005, 06:06 PM

one's as good as the other lol

feldon34 · 06-05-2005, 02:40 PM

I am a strong believer in an international date format:
2005.11.04
Year.Month.Day

which is structured exactly the same as how we all tell time:
09:40:27 (9:40am and 27 seconds)
Hour:Minute:Second

It's also nice that both of those formats sort properly on a computer.

If we depicted times the way dates were depicted, we'd have two kinds of digital watches with times like this:

Europe-- 27:40:09 (27 seconds, 40 minutes, 9 hours)
N.America-- 40:27:09 (40 minutes, 27 seconds, 9 hours)

Only slightly less confusing than Swatch Beat watches.

AKcrab · 06-05-2005, 05:42 PM

Hmm.. When writing out a date, do international folks not use "November 11, 2005"? Would the international folks write that as "2005, 11 November"? Or "2005, November 11".

The only reason "our" way makes sense to me, is that we write it and speak it as month/day/year.

Jim Sachs · 06-06-2005, 01:15 AM

I don't know that you could call it "our" way. In the military, that date would be 11 NOV 2005, which eliminates all guesswork.

feldon34 · 06-06-2005, 08:58 AM

According to International Standards Organization (ISO) standard 8601, the international standard date notation is:
YYYY-MM-DD.

Originally posted by AKcrab:

Hmm.. When writing out a date, do international folks not use "November 11, 2005"?

Nope.

They use 11 November, 2005 in Britain.

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I don't know that you could call it "our" way. In the military, that date would be 11 NOV 2005, which eliminates all guesswork.

Alas computers have no clue how to sort dates written like that and have to convert it back to an internal format.

Tiny Turtle · 06-07-2005, 12:47 AM

We're decidedly international here in Sweden. 1974-12-16 is the way we write. "Written out" it becomes 16 december 1974 (with no capital "D" in my tounge

). In English I guess we could put a comma between december and 1974.

/Tiny

handimannbob · 06-07-2005, 09:43 AM

lol tiny....i'll take a crumb donut...

jleslie · 06-07-2005, 12:54 PM

In the UK (and most of the rest of the world, I think) we also write it as we say it, but we say "see you on the 11th November" (often with an "of" between day and month). I do like the idea of Y:M:D, and use sometimes to avoid confusion, but generally still use D:M:Y, as that's the way my brain says it.

vs Swedish - we use capitals for the month and no comma after it, so today is the 7th June 2005.

The American non-ascending/non-descending order always has seemed weird. Anyone know how it ended up that way - you don't say mins secs, hours for time?

Marian Nichols · 06-07-2005, 02:13 PM

That’s because we just have to be different from the rest of the world.

I say, “I will see you on November the eleventh, two thousand five at about two o’clock in the afternoon.”

jleslie · 06-08-2005, 01:38 AM

Yes, I forgot that, we'd say "Two thousand AND five" never "Two thousand five".

Marian Nichols · 06-08-2005, 04:23 AM

hehehehe
strange world this

klaatu · 06-15-2005, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by jleslie:

"Two thousand AND five" never "Two thousand five".

I think it ought to be twenty-oh-five. Long before this 2nd millennium actually came to be I had a feeling no one would ever say it in the same manner as 1901 to 1909 were spoken (in english, anyway).

Still made plenty of sense, to me, to say 20-oh-1, 20-oh-2, etc. Maybe even 20-hundred (for 2000), but saying it as "two thousand" was obviously determined years ahead of its time.

I wonder if the movie (or book) 2001: A Space Odyssey is why?

In any case, you could just about see that the something-hundred way of saying it was not going to be like the previous centuries.

How was/is 1005 A.D. spoken? Probably like it is now for 2005. It seems to be the lack of a 'hundred' number, so people immediately forego that and see only the 'thousand' number. I was a bit disappointed when people ignored the past 900 years, at least, and couldn't say 20-oh-1 like their grandparents had done for 1901.

Somehow I still keep thinking it'll revert back to that before twenty ten, mainly because we'll all definitely be saying twenty ten and not two thousand ten-- er... well... who knows?!

Sorry for this long-winded nonsense but ya'll started it! LOL

feldon34 · 06-15-2005, 12:36 PM

Life got easier for the French when 2000 rolled around.

1999 = Mille neuf cent quatre-vingts dix neuf. (literally one thousand, nine hundred, four score, ten and nine)
2000 = Deux Mille

Wizwad · 06-16-2005, 01:50 PM

1005 - it was probably pronounced completely differently at the time, but I say ten oh five, like in ten sixty six!

I want to know why we aren't talking about '05 and '07 in the same way that we talked about '95 and '97. What has changed?

?

06-02-2005, 05:01 AM	#1
TennesseeTurtle Registered Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 17	When something new coming out?? When is something new coming out?? It has been a long time? Thanks Mark It's not having what you want, but wanting what you got. SC

06-02-2005, 06:22 PM	#3
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	That's as good a date as any. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-03-2005, 07:56 AM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	October, but we don't know which year. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-04-2005, 06:06 PM	#7
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	one's as good as the other lol Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.

06-05-2005, 02:40 PM	#8
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I am a strong believer in an international date format: 2005.11.04 Year.Month.Day which is structured exactly the same as how we all tell time: 09:40:27 (9:40am and 27 seconds) Hour:Minute:Second It's also nice that both of those formats sort properly on a computer. If we depicted times the way dates were depicted, we'd have two kinds of digital watches with times like this: Europe-- 27:40:09 (27 seconds, 40 minutes, 9 hours) N.America-- 40:27:09 (40 minutes, 27 seconds, 9 hours) Only slightly less confusing than Swatch Beat watches. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-02-2005, 05:38 PM	#2
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	11/04/2006.

06-04-2005, 02:07 PM	#5
Tarkus Shark Bytes Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 158	Originally posted by AKcrab: 11/04/2006. Is that November 4th or April 11th? I don't know what country you're from.

06-04-2005, 05:14 PM	#6
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Originally posted by Tarkus: Is that November 4th or April 11th? Yes.

06-05-2005, 05:42 PM	#9
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Hmm.. When writing out a date, do international folks not use "November 11, 2005"? Would the international folks write that as "2005, 11 November"? Or "2005, November 11". The only reason "our" way makes sense to me, is that we write it and speak it as month/day/year.

06-06-2005, 01:15 AM	#10
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I don't know that you could call it "our" way. In the military, that date would be 11 NOV 2005, which eliminates all guesswork. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-06-2005, 08:58 AM	#11
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	According to International Standards Organization (ISO) standard 8601, the international standard date notation is: YYYY-MM-DD. Originally posted by AKcrab: Hmm.. When writing out a date, do international folks not use "November 11, 2005"? Nope. They use 11 November, 2005 in Britain. Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I don't know that you could call it "our" way. In the military, that date would be 11 NOV 2005, which eliminates all guesswork. Alas computers have no clue how to sort dates written like that and have to convert it back to an internal format. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-07-2005, 12:47 AM	#12
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	We're decidedly international here in Sweden. 1974-12-16 is the way we write. "Written out" it becomes 16 december 1974 (with no capital "D" in my tounge ). In English I guess we could put a comma between december and 1974. /Tiny Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

06-07-2005, 09:43 AM	#13
handimannbob what's up doc ? Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: millbrae,ca Posts: 410	lol tiny....i'll take a crumb donut... bob

06-07-2005, 12:54 PM	#14
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	In the UK (and most of the rest of the world, I think) we also write it as we say it, but we say "see you on the 11th November" (often with an "of" between day and month). I do like the idea of Y:M:D, and use sometimes to avoid confusion, but generally still use D:M:Y, as that's the way my brain says it. vs Swedish - we use capitals for the month and no comma after it, so today is the 7th June 2005. The American non-ascending/non-descending order always has seemed weird. Anyone know how it ended up that way - you don't say mins secs, hours for time?

06-07-2005, 02:13 PM	#15
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	That’s because we just have to be different from the rest of the world. I say, “I will see you on November the eleventh, two thousand five at about two o’clock in the afternoon.” Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.

06-08-2005, 01:38 AM	#16
jleslie Engineer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,279	Yes, I forgot that, we'd say "Two thousand AND five" never "Two thousand five".

06-08-2005, 04:23 AM	#17
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	hehehehe strange world this Write paranormal mysteries. Six books so far.

06-15-2005, 12:25 PM	#18
klaatu Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 16	Originally posted by jleslie: "Two thousand AND five" never "Two thousand five". I think it ought to be twenty-oh-five. Long before this 2nd millennium actually came to be I had a feeling no one would ever say it in the same manner as 1901 to 1909 were spoken (in english, anyway). Still made plenty of sense, to me, to say 20-oh-1, 20-oh-2, etc. Maybe even 20-hundred (for 2000), but saying it as "two thousand" was obviously determined years ahead of its time. I wonder if the movie (or book) 2001: A Space Odyssey is why? In any case, you could just about see that the something-hundred way of saying it was not going to be like the previous centuries. How was/is 1005 A.D. spoken? Probably like it is now for 2005. It seems to be the lack of a 'hundred' number, so people immediately forego that and see only the 'thousand' number. I was a bit disappointed when people ignored the past 900 years, at least, and couldn't say 20-oh-1 like their grandparents had done for 1901. Somehow I still keep thinking it'll revert back to that before twenty ten, mainly because we'll all definitely be saying twenty ten and not two thousand ten-- er... well... who knows?! Sorry for this long-winded nonsense but ya'll started it! LOL

06-15-2005, 12:36 PM	#19
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Life got easier for the French when 2000 rolled around. 1999 = Mille neuf cent quatre-vingts dix neuf. (literally one thousand, nine hundred, four score, ten and nine) 2000 = Deux Mille

06-16-2005, 01:50 PM	#20
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	1005 - it was probably pronounced completely differently at the time, but I say ten oh five, like in ten sixty six! I want to know why we aren't talking about '05 and '07 in the same way that we talked about '95 and '97. What has changed?? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional