Standby Problem

schneb · 12-18-2002, 07:20 PM

I love SS, but since using it, my WinXP box will no longer automatically drop into standby mode. Is this a known issue, and can it be fixed?

feldon34 · 12-18-2002, 09:06 PM

Is this a known issue?

Yes.

and can it be fixed

Not at this time.

schneb · 12-18-2002, 10:27 PM

OK as long as it is addressed. Phoey, I wonder what I can do...

Jim Sachs · 12-18-2002, 11:18 PM

Actually, I thought that Will at Prolific had fixed this. I'll ask him about it.

schneb · 12-19-2002, 10:27 AM

Thanks Jim,

I have the latest version (1.1) of SS, my box is an XP with a gForce 3 card. I tried it on my machine at work which is Win2000 and it does the same thing. That box also has an nVidia card if that helps.

This is important in that I do not like my video card and monitors running all night, so what ever can be done would be greatly appreciated!

skypx · 12-20-2002, 07:26 PM

I am not 100% sure, more like 97%, that this problem may be solved by installing DirectX 9. I made no other changes to my (software) computer, but for the first time ever the monitor actually shut itself off!!! There were no performance increases (obivously) when I installed DirectX 9 , but it seemed to fix a lot annoyances I had with the system.

Jim Sachs · 12-20-2002, 08:45 PM

It's always been known to be a problem within Windows, but I thought Will had a work around. He hasn't gotten back to me yet.

skypx · 12-20-2002, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
It's always been known to be a problem within Windows, but I thought Will had a work around. He hasn't gotten back to me yet.

Jim you may want to check out DirectX 9. After I installed it my monitor shuts down properly.

Jim Sachs · 12-20-2002, 11:32 PM

OK, thanks.

Lostboy · 12-21-2002, 03:41 AM

I’ve had this problem too which has always been annoying, but since I’ve updated to DirectX 9, my monitor shuts down as well. Sweet!

schneb · 12-21-2002, 12:55 PM

The monitor is one thing, the computer Standby is another. I notice this happens when I have certain applications open. I guess when Windows sees any activity whatsoever, it refuses to go into Standby mode.

Perhaps in SS preferences there can be a clock that you can command certain actions to occur such as shut down or standby. This way we are not depending on Windows but an actual hard code command.

BTW, Feldon pointed me to the latest update 1.1.7 and it did not fix the problem.

lasermail · 12-21-2002, 02:01 PM

I hadn't realised until reading these posts that there was a version 1.1.7....I reran the download today but setup reports "This will install Aquarium 1.1.2 on your computer"? where do I get version 1.1.7?

feldon34 · 12-21-2002, 02:57 PM

1.1.7 is one of the many test versions which we give out to people. The dual monitor version will be the next public "speed bump" release, with a version number of probably 1.1.9.

If you need 1.1.7, I can give it to you. It fixes a couple of issues:

On some sound cards/systems, when the Aquarium starts, even with the sound turned down to zero, it prevents any other application from making sound. A "don't initialize sound card" button was added (I think it's just called 'off'

).

On some systems, the Aquarium would end up hidden with the sound running but no tile in the taskbar so you couldn't close it. This has been fixed.

lasermail · 12-21-2002, 03:32 PM

I've noticed the sound running sometimes with SSA hidden, other applications just run over the top and I end up with sounds from both ....so I've used task manager to close SSA ...be very grateful if you could let me have that version....thanks!

schneb · 12-21-2002, 03:35 PM

Sorry, the 1.1.7 was given to me on the quiet and I guess I should not have mentioned it yet. Sorry.

Still, the DirectX 9 does allow for monitor sleep, but not Standby. -- sigh.

lasermail · 12-21-2002, 06:03 PM

schneb.....take a look at this >>
http://support.microsoft.com/default...us;q310601:TU:

schneb · 12-21-2002, 08:21 PM

Thanks Laser, but most of my experiments have been tested for less time. I think the real answer would be to have a standby event scheduler built into SereneScreen, that way it is not based on idle time but actual time.

Jim Sachs · 12-21-2002, 11:50 PM

Apparently this is a very deep "catch-22" situation within Windows. As I recall it was something about the system message to go into standy being interpreted as a system event, which keeps the machine from entering standy.

lasermail · 12-22-2002, 05:47 AM

Fails under 45 mins...Okay!....have you tried this Windows XP patch for Direct3D-Based Screen Savers/Standby Errors?

http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/d...F-652154534800

schneb · 12-22-2002, 10:54 PM

Jim,

That is why I thought that a hard code at a timed interval in SS would be a good thing to bypass this. For example, it could be set to go into Stanby at say midnight. That way the Power Manager would not be needed.

Laser,
Thanks for the research, but for this problem, it did not make a difference.

12-18-2002, 07:20 PM	#1
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Standby Problem I love SS, but since using it, my WinXP box will no longer automatically drop into standby mode. Is this a known issue, and can it be fixed?

12-18-2002, 09:06 PM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Is this a known issue? Yes. and can it be fixed Not at this time. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-18-2002, 11:18 PM	#4
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Actually, I thought that Will at Prolific had fixed this. I'll ask him about it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-19-2002, 10:27 AM	#5
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Thanks! Thanks Jim, I have the latest version (1.1) of SS, my box is an XP with a gForce 3 card. I tried it on my machine at work which is Win2000 and it does the same thing. That box also has an nVidia card if that helps. This is important in that I do not like my video card and monitors running all night, so what ever can be done would be greatly appreciated!

12-20-2002, 08:45 PM	#7
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	It's always been known to be a problem within Windows, but I thought Will had a work around. He hasn't gotten back to me yet. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-18-2002, 10:27 PM	#3
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	OK as long as it is addressed. Phoey, I wonder what I can do...

12-20-2002, 07:26 PM	#6
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	I am not 100% sure, more like 97%, that this problem may be solved by installing DirectX 9. I made no other changes to my (software) computer, but for the first time ever the monitor actually shut itself off!!! There were no performance increases (obivously) when I installed DirectX 9 , but it seemed to fix a lot annoyances I had with the system.

12-20-2002, 09:46 PM	#8
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jim Sachs It's always been known to be a problem within Windows, but I thought Will had a work around. He hasn't gotten back to me yet. Jim you may want to check out DirectX 9. After I installed it my monitor shuts down properly.

12-20-2002, 11:32 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	OK, thanks. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-21-2002, 03:41 AM	#10
Lostboy SquirrelFish Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 206	I’ve had this problem too which has always been annoying, but since I’ve updated to DirectX 9, my monitor shuts down as well. Sweet!

12-21-2002, 12:55 PM	#11
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	The monitor is one thing, the computer Standby is another. I notice this happens when I have certain applications open. I guess when Windows sees any activity whatsoever, it refuses to go into Standby mode. Perhaps in SS preferences there can be a clock that you can command certain actions to occur such as shut down or standby. This way we are not depending on Windows but an actual hard code command. BTW, Feldon pointed me to the latest update 1.1.7 and it did not fix the problem.

12-21-2002, 02:01 PM	#12
lasermail Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	I hadn't realised until reading these posts that there was a version 1.1.7....I reran the download today but setup reports "This will install Aquarium 1.1.2 on your computer"? where do I get version 1.1.7?

12-21-2002, 02:57 PM	#13
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	1.1.7 is one of the many test versions which we give out to people. The dual monitor version will be the next public "speed bump" release, with a version number of probably 1.1.9. If you need 1.1.7, I can give it to you. It fixes a couple of issues: On some sound cards/systems, when the Aquarium starts, even with the sound turned down to zero, it prevents any other application from making sound. A "don't initialize sound card" button was added (I think it's just called 'off' ). On some systems, the Aquarium would end up hidden with the sound running but no tile in the taskbar so you couldn't close it. This has been fixed. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-21-2002, 03:32 PM	#14
lasermail Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	I've noticed the sound running sometimes with SSA hidden, other applications just run over the top and I end up with sounds from both ....so I've used task manager to close SSA ...be very grateful if you could let me have that version....thanks!

12-21-2002, 03:35 PM	#15
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Sorry, the 1.1.7 was given to me on the quiet and I guess I should not have mentioned it yet. Sorry. Still, the DirectX 9 does allow for monitor sleep, but not Standby. -- sigh.

12-21-2002, 06:03 PM	#16
lasermail Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	schneb.....take a look at this >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...us;q310601:TU: Last edited by feldon34; 12-21-2002 at 07:23 PM.

12-21-2002, 08:21 PM	#17
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Thanks Laser, but most of my experiments have been tested for less time. I think the real answer would be to have a standby event scheduler built into SereneScreen, that way it is not based on idle time but actual time.

12-21-2002, 11:50 PM	#18
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Apparently this is a very deep "catch-22" situation within Windows. As I recall it was something about the system message to go into standy being interpreted as a system event, which keeps the machine from entering standy. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-22-2002, 05:47 AM	#19
lasermail Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	Fails under 45 mins...Okay!....have you tried this Windows XP patch for Direct3D-Based Screen Savers/Standby Errors? http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/d...F-652154534800

12-22-2002, 10:54 PM	#20
schneb Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 51	Jim, That is why I thought that a hard code at a timed interval in SS would be a good thing to bypass this. For example, it could be set to go into Stanby at say midnight. That way the Power Manager would not be needed. Laser, Thanks for the research, but for this problem, it did not make a difference.