Bug: Unconfirmed Fish swimming through objects

debearly · 03-01-2010, 06:31 PM

First off, let me say that I LOVE this application. It is so restful. As a retired software engineer (30 years, in several languages) I also appreciate how much work went into it, and how utterly solid and elegant it is! Rare, these days.

One minor thing (minor for me, at least!): about once every couple of minutes, I believe I'm seeing a fish swim through something. Mostly the sponge, but I've also seen one swim through the top part of the crystal, and also a coral. The offenders have been different species.
I managed to catch one in the act:

My system information:
ASUS K70IC-A1 (laptop)
Intel Core2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz, 4.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 220M, 1.00 GB
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
Hardware drivers all current
MA3 version T928.3.0.1953

Let me know if you need any further information.

Thank you for this wonderful app!

feldon34 · 03-01-2010, 07:39 PM

Marine Aquarium 2 did not have any coral pass throughs. Marine Aquarium 3 has a more intricate coral, and allows more fish (up to 30). These two combined lead to the possibility of pass throughs.

It's a known issue (especially with the Elkhorn coral you've pictured) and something Jim does want to fix in the future. For now I might suggest turning down the number of fish.

JohnWho · 03-01-2010, 08:00 PM

Now that he's mentioned it, I see that happen, too.

Simply having less fish fixes it?

Cool - I've give that a try.

Too many fish is a bit distracting, anyway.

feldon34 · 03-01-2010, 09:38 PM

Even setting the fish to 1, there's still a chance you'll see passthrus on that Elkhorn coral at the top. That's the weakest point in the space-time continuum.

Marian Nichols · 03-02-2010, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by feldon33:

Even setting the fish to 1, there's still a chance you'll see passthrus on that Elkhorn coral at the top. That's the weakest point in the space-time continuum.

As long as the fish doesn't get trapped while passing through. That would be bad.

Oh and welcome to the forum. debearly

Ex_Brit · 03-02-2010, 08:33 AM

Poor fish...LOL!!

debearly · 03-02-2010, 10:13 AM

There were 16 fish in that particular group, but no biggie. I figured it probably was a known issue, just wanted to be sure.

I've watched fish bump that coral and look startled. Fascinating how fish-like their behaviors are. An incredible engineering feat!

Originally posted by Marian Nichols:

Oh and welcome to the forum. debearly

Thank you!

Wizwad · 03-02-2010, 11:33 AM

And yet, the intention is to improve the fish behaviour, can you believe it?!

Once that's been implemented, debearly, the pass-throughs should be remedied as a consequence.

Time Crystal Pilot · 12-19-2011, 10:07 AM

In MA3 for MS Windows, if I deselect 'Show Crystal' in 'Program Settings', then re-enable the crystal in 'Clock & Logo', then go back to the screensaver without restarting the program, the likelihood of fish passing through the crystal --right through the center of the clock, as if it wasn't there at all-- seems greatly increased. Or is it just my imagination?

Jim Sachs · 12-19-2011, 10:29 AM

You're right, it's a genuine bug. I'll fix it on the next build.

A temp workaround is to just exit and re-start the program after turning the crystal back on.

alphaacres · 01-02-2012, 05:13 PM

The Lion Fish also has a hole in his chin that you can see thru

Ralph · 01-02-2012, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by alphaacres:

The Lion Fish also has a hole in his chin that you can see thru

That is the hole left by the hook when Jim caught it.

cjmaddy · 01-04-2012, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by Ralph:

That is the hole left by the hook when Jim caught it.

I assumed the fish had had a recent tracheotomy.

Jim Sachs · 01-04-2012, 10:17 AM

I'll fix it on the next update.

henemly · 01-06-2012, 01:24 PM

My lions all have solid jaws, must to a to low res condition on mine.

Ralph · 01-06-2012, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by henemly:

My lions all have solid jaws, must to a to low res condition on mine.

The "hole" is on the bottom side of the lion fish mouth, hard to see unless you cheat a bit. The fish has to be facing (or going away) and tilted so you can see the underside. In the picture you can see the green of the coral through this hole. Actually under the right lion fish position there is a hole around the entire dorsal fin as well. Neither worth fixing in my opinion.

03-01-2010, 06:31 PM	#1
debearly Registered Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3	Fish swimming through objects First off, let me say that I LOVE this application. It is so restful. As a retired software engineer (30 years, in several languages) I also appreciate how much work went into it, and how utterly solid and elegant it is! Rare, these days. One minor thing (minor for me, at least!): about once every couple of minutes, I believe I'm seeing a fish swim through something. Mostly the sponge, but I've also seen one swim through the top part of the crystal, and also a coral. The offenders have been different species. I managed to catch one in the act: My system information: ASUS K70IC-A1 (laptop) Intel Core2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz, 4.00 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce GT 220M, 1.00 GB Windows 7 Professional 32-bit Hardware drivers all current MA3 version T928.3.0.1953 Let me know if you need any further information. Thank you for this wonderful app!

03-01-2010, 07:39 PM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Marine Aquarium 2 did not have any coral pass throughs. Marine Aquarium 3 has a more intricate coral, and allows more fish (up to 30). These two combined lead to the possibility of pass throughs. It's a known issue (especially with the Elkhorn coral you've pictured) and something Jim does want to fix in the future. For now I might suggest turning down the number of fish. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-01-2010, 09:38 PM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Even setting the fish to 1, there's still a chance you'll see passthrus on that Elkhorn coral at the top. That's the weakest point in the space-time continuum. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-02-2010, 08:33 AM	#6
Ex_Brit Geordie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 114	Poor fish...LOL!! Peter Toronto, Canada

03-02-2010, 11:33 AM	#8
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	And yet, the intention is to improve the fish behaviour, can you believe it?! Once that's been implemented, debearly, the pass-throughs should be remedied as a consequence. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

03-01-2010, 08:00 PM	#3
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Now that he's mentioned it, I see that happen, too. Simply having less fish fixes it? Cool - I've give that a try. Too many fish is a bit distracting, anyway.

03-02-2010, 04:53 AM	#5
Marian Nichols ~Author~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rocky Mount, NC Posts: 7,429	Originally posted by feldon33: Even setting the fish to 1, there's still a chance you'll see passthrus on that Elkhorn coral at the top. That's the weakest point in the space-time continuum. As long as the fish doesn't get trapped while passing through. That would be bad. Oh and welcome to the forum. debearly

03-02-2010, 10:13 AM	#7
debearly Registered Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3	There were 16 fish in that particular group, but no biggie. I figured it probably was a known issue, just wanted to be sure. I've watched fish bump that coral and look startled. Fascinating how fish-like their behaviors are. An incredible engineering feat! Originally posted by Marian Nichols: Oh and welcome to the forum. debearly Thank you!

12-19-2011, 10:07 AM	#9
Time Crystal Pilot Registered Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 46	In MA3 for MS Windows, if I deselect 'Show Crystal' in 'Program Settings', then re-enable the crystal in 'Clock & Logo', then go back to the screensaver without restarting the program, the likelihood of fish passing through the crystal --right through the center of the clock, as if it wasn't there at all-- seems greatly increased. Or is it just my imagination?

12-19-2011, 10:29 AM	#10
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	You're right, it's a genuine bug. I'll fix it on the next build. A temp workaround is to just exit and re-start the program after turning the crystal back on. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-02-2012, 05:13 PM	#11
alphaacres Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 22	The Lion Fish also has a hole in his chin that you can see thru

01-02-2012, 06:30 PM	#12
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,441	Originally posted by alphaacres: The Lion Fish also has a hole in his chin that you can see thru That is the hole left by the hook when Jim caught it.

01-04-2012, 08:32 AM	#13
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Originally posted by Ralph: That is the hole left by the hook when Jim caught it. I assumed the fish had had a recent tracheotomy.

01-04-2012, 10:17 AM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I'll fix it on the next update. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-06-2012, 01:24 PM	#15
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	My lions all have solid jaws, must to a to low res condition on mine.