Bring Back the Climbing Starfish

aria1946 · 10-06-2009, 10:06 AM

Having recently upgraded to 3.0, the first thing I noticed was the starfish no longer appears on the glass (well, that and the fact that there are no more changing light levels). I'd love to see that starfish on the glass again. Developers: please?https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...milies/lol.gif

feldon34 · 10-06-2009, 12:19 PM

The "developers" is Jim Sachs. It's on his To Do list. Oh, and welcome to the forums.

Jim Sachs · 10-06-2009, 02:07 PM

The two items are related. Since there has never been a transition animation of the starfish climbing from the floor onto the glass, it needed total darkness to mask the jump. Without Automatic Lights, there is no more total darkness. A transition animation is on the To-Do list.

FrankGuy · 10-06-2009, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

A transition animation is on the To-Do list.

How about showing the star fish attempting to open a clam? It wouldn't involve gore and flesh bits. It would just show the design genius behind it's weird appearance.

Jim Sachs · 10-06-2009, 09:10 PM

I'll consider it.

hololo · 10-07-2009, 01:27 AM

An option setting is welcome

Stew2000 · 10-07-2009, 06:44 AM

Why would a Starfish need to open a clam?

feldon34 · 10-07-2009, 06:49 AM

If it gets peckish.

STEVEPOON · 10-07-2009, 08:17 AM

At least, let the starfish move fast as previous version.

FrankGuy · 10-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Stew2000:

Why would a Starfish need to open a clam?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_starfish_eat

"Some species take advantage of the great endurance of their water vascular systems to force open the shells of bivalve mollusks such as clams and mussels, and inject their stomachs into the shells. Once the stomach is inserted inside the shell it digests the mollusk in place. The cardiac stomach is then brought back inside the body, and the partially digested food is moved to the pyloric stomach. Because of this ability to digest food outside of its body, the sea star is able to hunt prey that are much larger than its mouth would otherwise allow including arthropods, and even small fish in addition to mollusks."

Don't sound as innocent as they look now do they?

They are a huge pest for the commercial oyster farmers.
They can't even be chopped up and returned to the sea because they regenerate from parts.

Stew2000 · 10-07-2009, 02:05 PM

Now i'm just scared.

Ralph · 10-07-2009, 03:03 PM

Jim's starfish is a vegetarian variety.. It would open the clam just to show it can

Jack Gilvey · 10-11-2009, 08:24 AM

Maybe there can be an option for it to open a coconut.

G600 · 10-11-2009, 12:48 PM

What do you think of this giant coconut crab?

http://www.magazine13.com/giant-coconut-crab/

Their life is marine only as larvae, so these could be put on the Whishlist for MA.

Jim Sachs · 10-11-2009, 05:09 PM

Wow, that picture of one climbing a trash can is enough to give me nightmares!

FrankGuy · 10-11-2009, 08:53 PM

Naw, throw that big ol' bug into a pot of boiling water with some pickling spice and plate him up with a nice slice of rare prime rib and you got some top shelf surf and turf right there.

Here is a cool video I found about sea stars:
http://www.marthas-vineyard-vacation...rfish-eat.html
There are several other sea star videos also on the right side of that page

The scallops are not defensless to the stars attack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ6tC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Qsm...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqWbsvAm4A

Sea star regeneration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cXe...eature=related

Nadine the expert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoH21YjINE

Surferminn · 10-12-2009, 04:50 AM

Those crabs are creepy. Some interesting links, FrankGuy. Here's my latest starfish pics taken at the aquarium. One is taken when they have their mouths full of food and seem to suction to the glass to eat. Then a couple ones of really skinny orange ones looking at their refections at the top of the water. And a couple in poses you can project your own interpretation of what they're doing.

cjmaddy · 10-12-2009, 06:58 AM

I think that last one is the funniest....

..... How about reproducing that, Jim? ...

Jim Sachs · 10-12-2009, 08:19 AM

That's the beauty of photography - you can get away with anything, because it really happened. If my starfish did that, I'd be a laughingstock.

Jav400 · 10-12-2009, 08:27 AM

So......................No cartwheels across the bottom of the tank huh?

10-06-2009, 10:06 AM	#1
aria1946 Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	Bring Back the Climbing Starfish Having recently upgraded to 3.0, the first thing I noticed was the starfish no longer appears on the glass (well, that and the fact that there are no more changing light levels). I'd love to see that starfish on the glass again. Developers: please?https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...milies/lol.gif

10-06-2009, 12:19 PM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The "developers" is Jim Sachs. It's on his To Do list. Oh, and welcome to the forums. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-06-2009, 02:07 PM	#3
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	The two items are related. Since there has never been a transition animation of the starfish climbing from the floor onto the glass, it needed total darkness to mask the jump. Without Automatic Lights, there is no more total darkness. A transition animation is on the To-Do list. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-06-2009, 09:10 PM	#5
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	I'll consider it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-07-2009, 06:49 AM	#8
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	If it gets peckish. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-06-2009, 07:31 PM	#4
FrankGuy Registered Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 16	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: A transition animation is on the To-Do list. How about showing the star fish attempting to open a clam? It wouldn't involve gore and flesh bits. It would just show the design genius behind it's weird appearance.

10-07-2009, 01:27 AM	#6
hololo Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Taipei Taiwan Posts: 43	An option setting is welcome

10-07-2009, 06:44 AM	#7
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	Why would a Starfish need to open a clam?

10-07-2009, 08:17 AM	#9
STEVEPOON Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 41	At least, let the starfish move fast as previous version.

10-07-2009, 01:11 PM	#10
FrankGuy Registered Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 16	Originally posted by Stew2000: Why would a Starfish need to open a clam? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_starfish_eat "Some species take advantage of the great endurance of their water vascular systems to force open the shells of bivalve mollusks such as clams and mussels, and inject their stomachs into the shells. Once the stomach is inserted inside the shell it digests the mollusk in place. The cardiac stomach is then brought back inside the body, and the partially digested food is moved to the pyloric stomach. Because of this ability to digest food outside of its body, the sea star is able to hunt prey that are much larger than its mouth would otherwise allow including arthropods, and even small fish in addition to mollusks." Don't sound as innocent as they look now do they? They are a huge pest for the commercial oyster farmers. They can't even be chopped up and returned to the sea because they regenerate from parts.

10-07-2009, 02:05 PM	#11
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	Now i'm just scared.

10-07-2009, 03:03 PM	#12
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Jim's starfish is a vegetarian variety.. It would open the clam just to show it can

10-11-2009, 08:24 AM	#13
Jack Gilvey Registered Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 7	Maybe there can be an option for it to open a coconut.

10-11-2009, 12:48 PM	#14
G600 Registered Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Goirle, Netherlands Posts: 52	What do you think of this giant coconut crab? http://www.magazine13.com/giant-coconut-crab/ Their life is marine only as larvae, so these could be put on the Whishlist for MA.

10-11-2009, 05:09 PM	#15
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Wow, that picture of one climbing a trash can is enough to give me nightmares! Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-11-2009, 08:53 PM	#16
FrankGuy Registered Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 16	Naw, throw that big ol' bug into a pot of boiling water with some pickling spice and plate him up with a nice slice of rare prime rib and you got some top shelf surf and turf right there. Here is a cool video I found about sea stars: http://www.marthas-vineyard-vacation...rfish-eat.html There are several other sea star videos also on the right side of that page The scallops are not defensless to the stars attack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ6tC...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Qsm...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqWbsvAm4A Sea star regeneration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cXe...eature=related Nadine the expert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoH21YjINE

10-12-2009, 06:58 AM	#18
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I think that last one is the funniest.... ..... How about reproducing that, Jim? ...

10-12-2009, 08:19 AM	#19
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	That's the beauty of photography - you can get away with anything, because it really happened. If my starfish did that, I'd be a laughingstock. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-12-2009, 08:27 AM	#20
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	So......................No cartwheels across the bottom of the tank huh? Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection