Public Beta $$ :(

Ralph · 04-19-2003, 07:58 AM

This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version?

While I appreciate that programmers need to be paid Prolific may just be shooting themselves in the foot with this degree of commercialism.

drfish · 04-19-2003, 08:05 AM

As I recall many of us here bought Jim's as a Beta, that's worked out pretty well...

xrayspex · 04-19-2003, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Ralph
This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version?

While I appreciate that programmers need to be paid Prolific may just be shooting themselves in the foot with this degree of commercialism.

Was wondering about the same thing. I am pretty sure it would go towards the final version(we would actually be getting a discount for trying the beta becouse i think the final will be more then 15 bucks)..at least that is what i presume happening.

EddieWan · 04-19-2003, 09:50 AM

As was said above. Lots of us purchased Jim's Aquarium as a beta and that carried over through the 1.1 release. I don't know for sure, but I think the same will be true with the Gold fish, but like I said I don't know that as a fact. Your getting it for cheaper than the final since it is beta and may be buggy so your getting a discount so to speak over the final version which will cost more.

Socrates · 04-19-2003, 10:10 AM

BNuying the beta of the original MA was the best software investment I ever made.

Lot's of the software I buy gets updates to the current version.

I'm on the 3rd version of this thing already (0, 1, 2) and I haven't opened my wallet for 2 years.

PS. If they follow the pattern, you will be able to download it and run it as a demo first too.

ESHIREY · 04-19-2003, 10:17 AM

Same here . I think the same will happen with the GA as it did with MA . I too have been here since 0 and will be here till I die . As long as they keep coming I'll keep buying .

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Ralph
This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version?

Where were you when SereneScreen Aquarium was in beta?

You are buying the full version of Goldfish for $14.95!

The Marine Aquarium was $19.95 and considered a beta, so this is actually a better deal!

FlagPride is the same way, by the way. Now is the time to buy. I think it will go up to $20 when they get all the really cool intricate details in there like a rope, reflections on the pole, stitching on the flag, some more backgrounds, etc.

Lainey · 04-20-2003, 01:58 PM

Being one of 'them snotty Mac people', I'm afraid to ask about the mac version...

feldon34 · 04-20-2003, 02:22 PM

The Mac team works very fast.

AKcrab · 04-20-2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by feldon27
The Mac team works very fast.

Are we still sticking with the "simultaneous release"?

JimO'Connor · 04-20-2003, 07:17 PM

Simultaneous release of GA wasn't ever promised, that I know of. We have simultaneous release of MA2, and near simultaneous release MAT (an important person has been sick, which has kept it from being exactly simultaneous).

GA will be available for Mac in a bit. The code was moving too fast for us to try to track it up until now. However, we should see the source code and be able to start working on it soon. I can't give an estimate since I haven't seen the code. However, as a "snooty Mac person" since 1984 you can be sure that we'll do all we can to make it a bang up product.

Skiadogs · 04-20-2003, 08:46 PM

Besides- on the 'price' point:
If someone doesn't want to have to pay for the beta-they would have to wait how long

for the 'real' copy while we get to enjoy the mostly bug free version!

clifdene · 04-21-2003, 08:31 AM

Where did news of the goldfish beta come from? I have yet to be advised!

ewald · 04-21-2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by clifdene
Where did news of the goldfish beta come from? I have yet to be advised!

Feldon posted last week that a beta could be available today...

but now it reads:

"Goldfish Aquarium will hopefully be available this week!"

look here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums/ (on top)

feldon34 · 04-21-2003, 11:33 AM

I love it how things get turned into promises.

We got a private beta Friday night and it was problematic, which led me to believe that Monday was *not* do-able.

The latest beta of GA we ran Sunday afternoon seemed pretty solid so I am hoping it WILL roll out today.

Rick · 04-21-2003, 04:43 PM

Awaiting anxiously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FrogMastr · 04-21-2003, 06:54 PM

But i think the globe will worth the wait....

Reichart · 04-22-2003, 02:51 AM

Why are you here reading this forum, you should be getting your free demo from www.LifeGlobe.com

clifdene · 04-22-2003, 07:13 AM

Got it, but was it worth the wait?

Russell Mix · 04-22-2003, 09:36 AM

Thanks to all of you who have downloaded GA beta and given us your feedback. As always, it will be helpful in the finetuning and completing of v1.0.
For those who inquired about beta purchase, your $14.95 will entitle you to all upgrades, to at least v1.0, at no further cost or purchase requirement. We expect to sell GA v1.0 for $19.95 on line. Our policy with MA, Godlfish, Flags and future products is to reward beta purchasers with 1) first use 2) at a discount plus 3) all upgrades to v1.0, at a minimum, free. Many of you know that if you purchased MA beta two years ago, you have received or at least been eligible for upgrades all the way to 2.0.
Thanks again for your input and support.

04-19-2003, 07:58 AM	#1
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,443	Public Beta $$ This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version? While I appreciate that programmers need to be paid Prolific may just be shooting themselves in the foot with this degree of commercialism.

04-19-2003, 08:05 AM	#2
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	As I recall many of us here bought Jim's as a Beta, that's worked out pretty well... I don't watch commercials.

04-19-2003, 09:14 AM	#3
xrayspex Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 74	Re: Public Beta $$ Originally posted by Ralph This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version? While I appreciate that programmers need to be paid Prolific may just be shooting themselves in the foot with this degree of commercialism. Was wondering about the same thing. I am pretty sure it would go towards the final version(we would actually be getting a discount for trying the beta becouse i think the final will be more then 15 bucks)..at least that is what i presume happening.

04-19-2003, 09:50 AM	#4
EddieWan JediMaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tallahasse, Florida Posts: 183	As was said above. Lots of us purchased Jim's Aquarium as a beta and that carried over through the 1.1 release. I don't know for sure, but I think the same will be true with the Gold fish, but like I said I don't know that as a fact. Your getting it for cheaper than the final since it is beta and may be buggy so your getting a discount so to speak over the final version which will cost more. If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!

04-19-2003, 10:10 AM	#5
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	BNuying the beta of the original MA was the best software investment I ever made. Lot's of the software I buy gets updates to the current version. I'm on the 3rd version of this thing already (0, 1, 2) and I haven't opened my wallet for 2 years. PS. If they follow the pattern, you will be able to download it and run it as a demo first too. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

04-19-2003, 10:17 AM	#6
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Same here . I think the same will happen with the GA as it did with MA . I too have been here since 0 and will be here till I die . As long as they keep coming I'll keep buying . Thank you for taking the time to read this.

04-19-2003, 01:18 PM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Re: Public Beta $$ Originally posted by Ralph This sounds like a MS trick...... charging to test a beta copy. Will this 14.95 (~20 Canadian) go towards the final version? Where were you when SereneScreen Aquarium was in beta? You are buying the full version of Goldfish for $14.95! The Marine Aquarium was $19.95 and considered a beta, so this is actually a better deal! FlagPride is the same way, by the way. Now is the time to buy. I think it will go up to $20 when they get all the really cool intricate details in there like a rope, reflections on the pole, stitching on the flag, some more backgrounds, etc. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-20-2003, 01:58 PM	#8
Lainey Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 10	Being one of 'them snotty Mac people', I'm afraid to ask about the mac version...

04-20-2003, 02:22 PM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The Mac team works very fast. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-20-2003, 03:07 PM	#10
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Originally posted by feldon27 The Mac team works very fast. Are we still sticking with the "simultaneous release"?

04-20-2003, 07:17 PM	#11
JimO'Connor Mac Development Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kenai, Alaska Posts: 678	Simultaneous release of GA wasn't ever promised, that I know of. We have simultaneous release of MA2, and near simultaneous release MAT (an important person has been sick, which has kept it from being exactly simultaneous). GA will be available for Mac in a bit. The code was moving too fast for us to try to track it up until now. However, we should see the source code and be able to start working on it soon. I can't give an estimate since I haven't seen the code. However, as a "snooty Mac person" since 1984 you can be sure that we'll do all we can to make it a bang up product. Jim O'Connor Order N Development

04-20-2003, 08:46 PM	#12
Skiadogs Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Redmond, Wshington Posts: 9	Besides- on the 'price' point: If someone doesn't want to have to pay for the beta-they would have to wait how long for the 'real' copy while we get to enjoy the mostly bug free version! -Shay

04-21-2003, 08:31 AM	#13
clifdene Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 168	Where did news of the goldfish beta come from? I have yet to be advised!

04-21-2003, 09:01 AM	#14
ewald Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 24	Originally posted by clifdene Where did news of the goldfish beta come from? I have yet to be advised! Feldon posted last week that a beta could be available today... but now it reads: "Goldfish Aquarium will hopefully be available this week!" look here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums/ (on top) Last edited by ewald; 04-21-2003 at 11:32 AM.

04-21-2003, 11:33 AM	#15
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I love it how things get turned into promises. We got a private beta Friday night and it was problematic, which led me to believe that Monday was not do-able. The latest beta of GA we ran Sunday afternoon seemed pretty solid so I am hoping it WILL roll out today. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-21-2003, 04:43 PM	#16
Rick Registered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 13	Awaiting anxiously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-21-2003, 06:54 PM	#17
FrogMastr Agalychnis callidryas Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Val-d'Or, Quebec, CANADA Posts: 71	waiting..... But i think the globe will worth the wait.... ---- FrogMastr

04-22-2003, 02:51 AM	#18
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Why are you here reading this forum, you should be getting your free demo from www.LifeGlobe.com *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

04-22-2003, 07:13 AM	#19
clifdene Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 168	Got it, but was it worth the wait?

04-22-2003, 09:36 AM	#20
Russell Mix CEO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 4	Thanks to all of you who have downloaded GA beta and given us your feedback. As always, it will be helpful in the finetuning and completing of v1.0. For those who inquired about beta purchase, your $14.95 will entitle you to all upgrades, to at least v1.0, at no further cost or purchase requirement. We expect to sell GA v1.0 for $19.95 on line. Our policy with MA, Godlfish, Flags and future products is to reward beta purchasers with 1) first use 2) at a discount plus 3) all upgrades to v1.0, at a minimum, free. Many of you know that if you purchased MA beta two years ago, you have received or at least been eligible for upgrades all the way to 2.0. Thanks again for your input and support.