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Juvenile Queen angel may actually be a Blue
Hi all,
My name of Rob Schuh and I have been invloved with Marine fish and reef aquariums for over 35 years. I love this product. I do have one question regarding the ID on one fish. It is the Queen angel. Both the Queen and Blue Angel fish from the Caribbean look almost identical in their Juvenile form. The fish in the program is a juvenile, but I am 99% sure that it is actually a juvenile Blue angel and not a Queen. I know that I might be acting a bit overly anal, but I think it is best to have the identification correct. I was curious if anyone else here had any ideas on this topic? That being said, I am very impressed by how perfect the fish colors and swimming motions are. I currently do not have a tank set up, so I just love watching my screen saver. My wife jokes with me about how many times I tell her how real I think it is! :-) Take care Rob |
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Glad you are enjoying it so much and welcome to our forum.
Do a google search for juvenile queen angel and then look at the results on the images page. ![]()
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Jav,
What's that supposed to tell? Evidently Mr. Schuh has seen both species in their juvinile form before, so uing a bunch of divers/aquarists opinions on what the've seen and posted on the net isn't exactly the final truth. I did a Google Image Search on "juvenile queen angel" and on "juvenile blue angel" and similar fish pop up on both. Here's an alleged (juvenile) Blue Angel and I must say the jury is still out on Mr. Schuh's question. /Tiny Second Chance Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think.
"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history. |
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The two species are closely related, and fish are not carbon copy cutouts, so there can be some slight difference between the same species and there is definately a difference between age changes. But the bottom line is Jim created it from what he saw and he says it is, him I trust. So unless where ever he saw it, it was labeled wrong I would give 99.9% odds on it being right.
Which for me isn't a plus really, for reasons I won't get into now I never did like that fish and its the only one I wouldn't care if it was thrown out, or changed. Sorry Cliff, I know you like this one.
Michael
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Hi Rob, welcome to the forum and thanks for your input. Thanks too Tiny for doing the homework first and posting up such neat links! At this point, kinda late to do a recall on all the published SS out there but good to know it might possibly be a blue angel - too bad we won't really know until it's grown.
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There has always been a lot of confusion even among the experts between the Queen and Blue. At the juvenile stage I chose to use (just losing its stripes and no crown showing yet), it could be either one. Several people in the past have thought it was a Blue, but no one has ever said, "It's a Blue because ______".
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No no no, Michael, you can throw that one out any time you like! - It's the original one I prefer ...
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Oh ok, my fault Cliff, I thought it was this one.
Michael
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Anyway, all the fish will be replaced in 3.0.
Jim Sachs
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Rob,
I'd be very interested in hearing what leads you to believe it's a Blue. Cliff, That original looks like it was created by Jim Disney - not Jim Sachs. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think.
"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history. |
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![]() No no no, Michael, you can throw that one out any time you like! - It's the original one I prefer ...
![]() ![]() You don't, by any chance, possess brown corduroy slacks? ![]()
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![]() Anyway, all the fish will be replaced in 3.0.
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I'll try.
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Looks like it's open house time for sarcasm, - you ain't seen nothing yet mate!
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Oh Oh.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
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Not sure what the joke is, but I grew up with a pair of brown cordoroy pants. Very warm, cozy and comfortable.
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Great shot. Keep them coming.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
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My sense of humor has been questioned lately.
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But on the plus side, at least you've got a great new avatar pic!
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I had a pair of brown cordoroy pants too, twice handed down.
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