Two Questions_single thread?

Tony Montana · 07-14-2005, 06:10 PM

Hello everybody...

My first question is:

1. I followed the directions on how to place a logo into the crystal, but they are PNG. The importer only accepts BMP Monochrome, what the heck am I missing? I placed the PNG into the folder specified. I am probably missing something obvious does anybody know what it is?!?

2. I have dual displays, I am using a Matrox Parahelia APVe with two 19" viewsonics, I have a 3.4 P4 and 1 gb of DDR2 ram. Now the only way I can get it to go across completely is in Stretch Mode but the aspect ratio is different on each monitor, which is odd because it is using being used as one. in addition I cannot use the saver at desktop resolution (the screen goes black and all I hear are tiny little bubbles), which is 2056x1024 16 or 32 bit. If I go smaller I can get it to work, but it doesnt look as good.

Thanks in advance,

ESHIREY · 07-15-2005, 08:19 AM

Hey buddy. First I want to welcome you to the forums. We are a great bunch of people from all over the world.

Now for your problem. I have mine running on dual monitors too. But I have a GeForce FX5900 and running in Horizontal Span. I first have it set to 1024x768, then in span it is running in 2048x768.

Someone should be along soon to help with your card and settings. Again, Welcome to the forums.

feldon34 · 07-15-2005, 10:09 AM

For dual monitor, download Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD (Multi-Display).
http://www.serenescreen.com/product/time/

You placed a 32-bit color PNG of the correct size into the C:\Program Files\SereneScreen\Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD\ ?

Tony Montana · 07-15-2005, 11:19 AM

Thanks for the response...

Feldon- Yes, and my pic is 256, created in Photoshop CS. How do I get the saver to recognize the logos, without using the importer.

I do have the MD version, unfortunately I think the terms you are using with your GE Force differs from the terminology of Matrox. Do these configurations sound familiar? Clone Mode, Stretch Mode, Independent Mode? I orginally tried stretch mode were both monitors are as one and retain one aspect ratio, Then I used independant were you can drag a window into both but you can have different attributes on each monitor ie, refresh, aspect, etc...

Thanks again...

feldon34 · 07-15-2005, 11:47 AM

Have you gone into the Settings and clicked on each monitor/graphics card and made sure it's not set to [X] Blank?

Can you post the logo here as an attachment?

Tony Montana · 07-15-2005, 12:32 PM

I enclosed the attachment, FYI, I downloaded your files that you have posted and I cannot view those either. I dont think it is the file type...I think I am missing some command in MD. How do you view the logo on the crystal, you cannot import it because it only recognizes BMP. It has to be something really dumb!?!

And what do you mean by "[X] Blank?

feldon34 · 07-15-2005, 12:55 PM

It's not a command!
It's not an import!
There is NOTHING you can do from WITHIN the Aquarium to load the logos!

You MUST drop the PNG files into the Marine Aquarium Time 2 or Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD folder.

Tony Montana · 07-15-2005, 01:30 PM

Which I did... What do you do next?

feldon34 · 07-15-2005, 01:49 PM

Run the Aquarium. If you have Logos set to display, it should rotate through them.

Tony Montana · 07-15-2005, 02:08 PM

I did and the only one that shows up is the Prolific one.

Tony Montana · 07-18-2005, 08:03 AM

I played around some more (with no luck), I just dont want to waste anymore time on this but,Thanks for your help anyways...

feldon34 · 07-18-2005, 02:31 PM

Tony, you're not the only one to post this problem.

I am not sure what is going on here but I will look into it.

Tony Montana · 07-18-2005, 03:15 PM

Thanks, I will drop in periodically and see whats going on.

FYI, my name is not Tony, I am just a big fan of Scarface. Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,

Gus

torch511 · 07-20-2005, 05:30 PM

Sometimes Photoshop can be a little too advanced for it's own good sometimes. Here is what I think is happening:

In order for MA2+T to recognize the BMP files, the files MUST be monochromatic images (1 BIT). If you are creating an image in RGB mode, unless you take a few extra steps, Photoshop will save the BMP file as an ordinry 16, 24 or 32 bit image.

In order to get the file to be recognized, convert the image to grayscale (Image>Mode>Grayscale) and then convert it to a BMP (Image>Mode>Bitmap).

Now when you save the file, the BMP options window should read 1 Bit, and the file will be able to be imported.

I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use.

drfish · 07-20-2005, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by torch511:

...I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use.

Well you didn't do a very good job...

AKcrab · 07-20-2005, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by torch511:

In order for MA2+T to recognize the BMP files, the files MUST be monochromatic images (1 BIT). If you are creating an image in RGB mode, unless you take a few extra steps, Photoshop will save the BMP file as an ordinry 16, 24 or 32 bit image.

Aren't we talking about a PNG file?

Originally posted by feldon29:

You MUST drop the PNG files into the Marine Aquarium Time 2 or Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD folder.

Originally posted by torch511:

I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use.

How does one learn to use software without buying it?

torch511 · 07-21-2005, 02:49 AM

Tony (knowing that tony is not your real name)

Have you previously imported a logo and are now trying to replace that BMP image with an existing PNG file?

If so, check in your MA2+T folder for a file called logo.dat If it is there, delete it, make sure the PNG file is in that directory and it should work.

I tried your file over here and it worked fine, so it is not the file.

feldon34 · 07-21-2005, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by torch511:

I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use.

You should know what you are talking about before being rude and insulting to forum members.

patscarr · 07-22-2005, 03:46 AM

I didn't think he was trying to be rude and insulting, but sarcastically funny.

Tiny Turtle · 07-22-2005, 07:44 AM

The concepts of "Not trying to" and "being" aren't mutually exclusive...

07-14-2005, 06:10 PM	#1
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	Two Questions_single thread? Hello everybody... My first question is: 1. I followed the directions on how to place a logo into the crystal, but they are PNG. The importer only accepts BMP Monochrome, what the heck am I missing? I placed the PNG into the folder specified. I am probably missing something obvious does anybody know what it is?!? 2. I have dual displays, I am using a Matrox Parahelia APVe with two 19" viewsonics, I have a 3.4 P4 and 1 gb of DDR2 ram. Now the only way I can get it to go across completely is in Stretch Mode but the aspect ratio is different on each monitor, which is odd because it is using being used as one. in addition I cannot use the saver at desktop resolution (the screen goes black and all I hear are tiny little bubbles), which is 2056x1024 16 or 32 bit. If I go smaller I can get it to work, but it doesnt look as good. Thanks in advance,

07-15-2005, 08:19 AM	#2
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Hey buddy. First I want to welcome you to the forums. We are a great bunch of people from all over the world. Now for your problem. I have mine running on dual monitors too. But I have a GeForce FX5900 and running in Horizontal Span. I first have it set to 1024x768, then in span it is running in 2048x768. Someone should be along soon to help with your card and settings. Again, Welcome to the forums. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

07-15-2005, 10:09 AM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	For dual monitor, download Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD (Multi-Display). http://www.serenescreen.com/product/time/ You placed a 32-bit color PNG of the correct size into the C:\Program Files\SereneScreen\Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD\ ? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-15-2005, 11:47 AM	#5
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Have you gone into the Settings and clicked on each monitor/graphics card and made sure it's not set to [X] Blank? Can you post the logo here as an attachment? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-15-2005, 12:55 PM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	It's not a command! It's not an import! There is NOTHING you can do from WITHIN the Aquarium to load the logos! You MUST drop the PNG files into the Marine Aquarium Time 2 or Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD folder. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-15-2005, 11:19 AM	#4
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	Thanks for the response... Feldon- Yes, and my pic is 256, created in Photoshop CS. How do I get the saver to recognize the logos, without using the importer. I do have the MD version, unfortunately I think the terms you are using with your GE Force differs from the terminology of Matrox. Do these configurations sound familiar? Clone Mode, Stretch Mode, Independent Mode? I orginally tried stretch mode were both monitors are as one and retain one aspect ratio, Then I used independant were you can drag a window into both but you can have different attributes on each monitor ie, refresh, aspect, etc... Thanks again...

07-15-2005, 01:30 PM	#8
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	Which I did... What do you do next?

07-15-2005, 01:49 PM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Run the Aquarium. If you have Logos set to display, it should rotate through them. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-15-2005, 02:08 PM	#10
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	I did and the only one that shows up is the Prolific one.

07-18-2005, 08:03 AM	#11
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	I played around some more (with no luck), I just dont want to waste anymore time on this but,Thanks for your help anyways...

07-18-2005, 02:31 PM	#12
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Tony, you're not the only one to post this problem. I am not sure what is going on here but I will look into it. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-18-2005, 03:15 PM	#13
Tony Montana Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9	Thanks, I will drop in periodically and see whats going on. FYI, my name is not Tony, I am just a big fan of Scarface. Sorry for the confusion. Regards, Gus

07-20-2005, 05:30 PM	#14
torch511 Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7	Sometimes Photoshop can be a little too advanced for it's own good sometimes. Here is what I think is happening: In order for MA2+T to recognize the BMP files, the files MUST be monochromatic images (1 BIT). If you are creating an image in RGB mode, unless you take a few extra steps, Photoshop will save the BMP file as an ordinry 16, 24 or 32 bit image. In order to get the file to be recognized, convert the image to grayscale (Image>Mode>Grayscale) and then convert it to a BMP (Image>Mode>Bitmap). Now when you save the file, the BMP options window should read 1 Bit, and the file will be able to be imported. I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use.

07-20-2005, 05:37 PM	#15
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Originally posted by torch511: ...I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use. Well you didn't do a very good job... I don't watch commercials.

07-20-2005, 08:44 PM	#16
AKcrab Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	Originally posted by torch511: In order for MA2+T to recognize the BMP files, the files MUST be monochromatic images (1 BIT). If you are creating an image in RGB mode, unless you take a few extra steps, Photoshop will save the BMP file as an ordinry 16, 24 or 32 bit image. Aren't we talking about a PNG file? Originally posted by feldon29: You MUST drop the PNG files into the Marine Aquarium Time 2 or Marine Aquarium Time 2 MD folder. Originally posted by torch511: I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use. How does one learn to use software without buying it?

07-21-2005, 02:49 AM	#17
torch511 Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7	Tony (knowing that tony is not your real name) Have you previously imported a logo and are now trying to replace that BMP image with an existing PNG file? If so, check in your MA2+T folder for a file called logo.dat If it is there, delete it, make sure the PNG file is in that directory and it should work. I tried your file over here and it worked fine, so it is not the file.

07-21-2005, 11:08 PM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by torch511: I will refrain from commenting on why someone would plop down 700 bucks on software they obviously have no clue how to use. You should know what you are talking about before being rude and insulting to forum members. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-22-2005, 03:46 AM	#19
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	I didn't think he was trying to be rude and insulting, but sarcastically funny. Patrick

07-22-2005, 07:44 AM	#20
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