Feature Request Please add a user customisable exit button

Royce · 03-17-2009, 07:05 AM

Please please please add a user customizable exit button. I run the screensaver on a windows media center pc. The old aquarium would exit on any of the buttons I pressed on the remote - eg. start media center (otherwise known as the green button), or the back button (i think it's mapped to backspace). Now with the version 3 beta, none of my remote buttons will exit the screen saver (seems only Escape key will exit). Alternatively please add an option to disable all hotkeys and allow any keyboard key to wakeup screensaver. I love this product so much I paid for the upgrade without even trying it. But now it's useless for me like this.

Jim Sachs · 03-17-2009, 09:50 AM

Do the remote buttons work if you turn on Exit On Mouse Move?

hololo · 03-17-2009, 11:38 AM

And release new beta or final 3.0

Jim Sachs · 03-17-2009, 01:01 PM

I'm not quite sure what "final 3.0" means. Are people waiting for me to guarantee that I will never add or improve anything again?

Royce · 03-17-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Do the remote buttons work if you turn on Exit On Mouse Move?

Tried that and it didn't help.

Jim Sachs · 03-17-2009, 07:07 PM

I'm trying to picture what would be different between 2.6 and 3.0, regarding what causes an exit. The only thing that I could think of was the fact that Exit on Mouse Move defaulted to ON with the old program, and now (temporarily) defaults to OFF.

Edgar · 03-17-2009, 11:49 PM

The problem is more likely that SC_CLOSE message does not try to exit.
We need to call the WM_CLOSE on that message.

Jim Sachs · 03-18-2009, 12:19 AM

OK, I'll take care of it.

Royce · 03-19-2009, 02:37 AM

One other thing I'd like to point out is that ALT+F4 is ignored. That used to work on 2.6.

I hope a new version can be released soon. Version 3 looked glorious on my 50" plasma.

Jim Sachs · 03-19-2009, 09:15 AM

What's ALT+F4 again?

321liftoff · 03-19-2009, 10:14 AM

Alt+F4 is a windows keyboard shortcut to close the active window/application.

You can try it on your favorite application. If it's your programming environment, just make sure that you try it AFTER you save all your awesome updates to the clams.

Jim Sachs · 03-19-2009, 10:32 AM

What a cumbersome and arcane way of exiting the program. Why not just hit Esc, or right-click/Exit, or have Exit-on-Mousemove turned on?

feldon34 · 03-19-2009, 11:34 AM

If Esc was all you had to press to completely close a program, using computers with modern operating systems would be a nightmare.

It would be possible to get completely kicked out of banking apps, chat software, development environments, Microsoft Word, etc. by pressing 1 key.

Alt-F4 just difficult enough to type that nobody will accidentally do it, and it has been the Windows standard since 1994. For 15 years, all Windows software has been designed to accept the Alt-F4 keystroke to exit. By the way, in Firefox, you can close individual tabs with Ctrl-F4.

Edgar · 03-19-2009, 07:21 PM

Alt-F4 is a shortcut for CloseWindow. SC_CLOSE is the message the app will see.

dwax · 03-19-2009, 08:25 PM

I have Exit On Mouse Move turned off. I have a Razer Copperhead mouse. If I press themiddle button (Scroll) the program will exit.

Royce · 03-21-2009, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

What a cumbersome and arcane way of exiting the program. Why not just hit Esc, or right-click/Exit, or have Exit-on-Mousemove turned on?

You're forgetting my original problem. I am doing this from a remote control. The buttons that make most sense to exit the screensaver are backspace (media center remotes use this as the back key - same as the browser) and my custom exit button (which transmits ALT+F4).

Both of these key combinations worked just fine on 2.6. Exiting via Escape key is a horrible concept (nice little summary provided by feldon33

). Please provide additional options!

Jim Sachs · 03-21-2009, 10:33 AM

OK, I'll look into it.

Royce · 07-07-2009, 05:10 PM

Hi,

It's been some time and the latest beta I downloaded still has this issue.. any progress on this?

I'd really like to start using version 3, seeing as I paid for it!

aann · 08-17-2009, 11:33 AM

I agree that Alt+F4 to close the screen saver is good behaviour. The Beta10d MA3 handles it in windowed mode, but not full screen
[edit]seems like an "[ ] exit on keypress" option would solve it to everyone's liking[/edit]

rps · 08-17-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by aann:

I agree that Alt+F4 to close the screen saver is good behaviour. The Beta10d MA3 handles it in windowed mode, but not full screen
[edit]seems like an "[ ] exit on keypress" option would solve it to everyone's liking[/edit]

As mention earlier, "Alt-F4" to close a window/application is standard windows behavior (and has been for a decade and a half). This key combination should work regardless of which mode the screen saver is in.

The "exit on keypress" option seem like a reasonable request as well (assuming that is defaulted off) that shouldn't be too hard to implement.

Just my $0.02.

~Ralph S.

03-17-2009, 07:05 AM	#1
Royce Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	Please add a user customisable exit button Please please please add a user customizable exit button. I run the screensaver on a windows media center pc. The old aquarium would exit on any of the buttons I pressed on the remote - eg. start media center (otherwise known as the green button), or the back button (i think it's mapped to backspace). Now with the version 3 beta, none of my remote buttons will exit the screen saver (seems only Escape key will exit). Alternatively please add an option to disable all hotkeys and allow any keyboard key to wakeup screensaver. I love this product so much I paid for the upgrade without even trying it. But now it's useless for me like this.

03-17-2009, 09:50 AM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	Do the remote buttons work if you turn on Exit On Mouse Move? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-17-2009, 01:01 PM	#4
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	I'm not quite sure what "final 3.0" means. Are people waiting for me to guarantee that I will never add or improve anything again? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-17-2009, 07:07 PM	#6
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	I'm trying to picture what would be different between 2.6 and 3.0, regarding what causes an exit. The only thing that I could think of was the fact that Exit on Mouse Move defaulted to ON with the old program, and now (temporarily) defaults to OFF. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-17-2009, 11:49 PM	#7
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	The problem is more likely that SC_CLOSE message does not try to exit. We need to call the WM_CLOSE on that message. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

03-17-2009, 11:38 AM	#3
hololo Registered Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Taipei Taiwan Posts: 43	And release new beta or final 3.0

03-17-2009, 05:47 PM	#5
Royce Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Do the remote buttons work if you turn on Exit On Mouse Move? Tried that and it didn't help.

03-18-2009, 12:19 AM	#8
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	OK, I'll take care of it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-19-2009, 02:37 AM	#9
Royce Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	One other thing I'd like to point out is that ALT+F4 is ignored. That used to work on 2.6. I hope a new version can be released soon. Version 3 looked glorious on my 50" plasma.

03-19-2009, 09:15 AM	#10
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	What's ALT+F4 again? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-19-2009, 10:14 AM	#11
321liftoff Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16	Alt+F4 is a windows keyboard shortcut to close the active window/application. You can try it on your favorite application. If it's your programming environment, just make sure that you try it AFTER you save all your awesome updates to the clams.

03-19-2009, 10:32 AM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	What a cumbersome and arcane way of exiting the program. Why not just hit Esc, or right-click/Exit, or have Exit-on-Mousemove turned on? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-19-2009, 11:34 AM	#13
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	If Esc was all you had to press to completely close a program, using computers with modern operating systems would be a nightmare. It would be possible to get completely kicked out of banking apps, chat software, development environments, Microsoft Word, etc. by pressing 1 key. Alt-F4 just difficult enough to type that nobody will accidentally do it, and it has been the Windows standard since 1994. For 15 years, all Windows software has been designed to accept the Alt-F4 keystroke to exit. By the way, in Firefox, you can close individual tabs with Ctrl-F4. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-19-2009, 07:21 PM	#14
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	Alt-F4 is a shortcut for CloseWindow. SC_CLOSE is the message the app will see. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

03-19-2009, 08:25 PM	#15
dwax Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 83	I have Exit On Mouse Move turned off. I have a Razer Copperhead mouse. If I press themiddle button (Scroll) the program will exit. By dustywax at 2011-12-13

03-21-2009, 06:52 AM	#16
Royce Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: What a cumbersome and arcane way of exiting the program. Why not just hit Esc, or right-click/Exit, or have Exit-on-Mousemove turned on? You're forgetting my original problem. I am doing this from a remote control. The buttons that make most sense to exit the screensaver are backspace (media center remotes use this as the back key - same as the browser) and my custom exit button (which transmits ALT+F4). Both of these key combinations worked just fine on 2.6. Exiting via Escape key is a horrible concept (nice little summary provided by feldon33 ). Please provide additional options!

03-21-2009, 10:33 AM	#17
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,790	OK, I'll look into it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-07-2009, 05:10 PM	#18
Royce Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	Hi, It's been some time and the latest beta I downloaded still has this issue.. any progress on this? I'd really like to start using version 3, seeing as I paid for it!

08-17-2009, 11:33 AM	#19
aann Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5	I agree that Alt+F4 to close the screen saver is good behaviour. The Beta10d MA3 handles it in windowed mode, but not full screen [edit]seems like an "[ ] exit on keypress" option would solve it to everyone's liking[/edit]

08-17-2009, 12:55 PM	#20
rps Registered Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 57	Originally posted by aann: I agree that Alt+F4 to close the screen saver is good behaviour. The Beta10d MA3 handles it in windowed mode, but not full screen [edit]seems like an "[ ] exit on keypress" option would solve it to everyone's liking[/edit] As mention earlier, "Alt-F4" to close a window/application is standard windows behavior (and has been for a decade and a half). This key combination should work regardless of which mode the screen saver is in. The "exit on keypress" option seem like a reasonable request as well (assuming that is defaulted off) that shouldn't be too hard to implement. Just my $0.02. ~Ralph S.